You are quite delusional. How many "brats" (as you say) are going to be playing a hardcore racing sim like Forza 3?
This is being blown WAY out of proportion. The second disc install is less than 2gb - how hard is it to free up that much space?
I've had a 20gb drive for two years now, and I still made room to not only install the second disc, but also the first disc so the game runs completely off the hard drive.
Out of the hundreds of 360 games released since launch, Forza 3's second disc is the ONLY required install so far, and it's only 1.9gb.
Saying MS needs to get "back in the game" is like saying the Yankees need to get "back" into the World Series after last night's loss, even though they are still leading the Phillies 3-2.
Wireless isn't required to play online. Besides, many people don't have wi-fi in their homes anyway.
Also, the MW2 bundle includes the 250gb version of the Xbox 360 (not the standard 120gb), as well as a second controller and a copy of the MW2 game.
"MW2 bargain bundle"??
The MW2 bundle will be the most expensive 360 on the market, not a "bargain" bundle. Anyone who buys the most expensive version of a console is cetainly going to know what they are getting.
EDIT @ below - if what you say is true, how does that support your opinion that the PS3 will do far better this year? By your reasoning, only a tiny percentage of people will realize the value of the PS3.
Let me repeat your exact words with a new game, and see how it sounds.
"Halo 3:ODST is on top because it's the best shooter on consoles. Which is why it sells more than Killzone 2."
Still think that makes sense now??
That's a really good price considering the upgraded hard drive, extra controller, and a copy of Forza 3.
He is just using the same tactic that PS3 fans do when it comes to 360 games.
How many people here criticize EVERY 360 exclusive, now & upcoming, but give EVERY PS3 exclusive the benefit of the doubt, or treat them if they are all perfect?
"PS3: GT5 2010 release, wait for it, it will score above 92, and so will GT6"
You're trying to predict what GT5 will score, not to mention GT6?? When, in 2015 or so???
And you call me delusional??
Just like PS3 fans like to point out that the PS3 has outsold the 360 since the PS3 was launched, Forza has outscored GT since Forza was launched. GT was king when it had no competition.
But hey, if it makes you feel better to p...
What's so funny about it? GT5P is a fully packaged retail release. I know you'd like to ignore it because it scored so low, but enough sites reviewed it that it has a Metacritic score.
Are you going to criticize the all of the "official" Playstation magazines and websites that reviewed it as a normal game too? After all, those scores are figured into the Meta rating.
"a racing game that doesn't even come close to GT5,"
You're right - the Forza series isn't close to GT anymore- it has surpassed it.
Metacritic this decade:
GT - 95, 89, 80
Forza - 92, 90, 92
Did you miss any? You listed Fat Princess (a PSN game), yet you conveniently forgot to list any exclusive XBLA games.
EDIT @ below - look at 1.6. Funny how nearly everyone agrees when he uses Metacritic to make ...
Post 9/11 patriotism?? Are you joking????
The original Xbox launched shortly after 9/11, yet far more Americans supported the Japanese PS2. I've heard a lot of excuses from PS3 supporters about 360's success, but that takes the cake.
360 going downhill???
A 60% increase in sales during the same month that it's main competition re-launches with a $100 price cut. I'm sure MS doesn't mind going down that hill.
The 360 is popular beca...
More content for $20 than most $60 games offer - it's too much value. PS3 fanboys just can't grasp the idea.
So, I guess the 360 is more popular with gamers in their 20's and 30's.
After all, if teens and tweens supposedly have no interest in the 360, who is buying the hundreds of thousands of 360's every month?
Trying to mitigate U.S sales & using the "rest of the world" to try to prove a point is like trying to argue that Tiger Woods is NOT really the best golfer in the world because the rest of the field COMBINED has more wins than Tiger does.
The U.S. is the biggest stage in the world, and is the biggest prize to win.
Besides, you should care most about sales in the country that you live in. U.S. sales should matter most to Americans. European sales s...
Response to part 1:
Just because the Xbox 360 launched a year earlier doesn't mean that those sales can just be disregarded. Launching earlier than the competition is s strategic advantage - PS1 launched a year earlier than N64, and PS2 launched a year earlier than Xbox 1. As I've posted in the forums, there is a good analogy that I like to use.
The Yankees have a Major League record 26 World Series championships. That record stand on it's own - no asterisks, ...
"This is the same thing but on a web-sited and even more cleverly disguised. The bigger the site the more money you can make this way. IGN is a good example."
Are you really trying to claim that IGN is biased?
I can't tell you how many times I've logged on to IGN and seen the PS3 "it only does everything" advertisement. Clearly, there is Sony money flowing through IGN as well as MS, Nintendo, etc.
If IGN was biased, why would...
What numbers are you looking at? I read the report from today, and it says that the Xbox division revenues were flat from the same quarter last year, however, profits increased substantially.
That, coupled with the 360's impressive September, clearly point to a strong console, not a declining one.
Despite how you spin it, more 360's have been sold than PS3's. The head start can't just be disregarded - those sales still count. It's just like the fact that the Y...
The N64 was on the market for 5 years. The 360 has sold more units in 4 years than the N64 did in 5.
This goes back a LONG way, but Super Mario Bros. 3 was the most anticipated game I can remember.
In the "modern" era though, MW2 is definitely the most anticipated. The fact that it's multi-platform gives it the edge over Halo 3.