Since you insist on bring up Forza, here's the reason.
Gran Turismo is Sony's premier franchise, and will always result in the most sales. Forza is not MS's premier franchise - Halo is.
Besides, the 360 has other highly rated racing games to choose from, so the sales will naturally be spread around among different games. No one game will dominate the sales, unlike on PS3 where there's little else to choose from in the auto racing genre.
When all else fails, just roll out the conspiracy theories. Pretty sad, but par for the course on N4G (especially by a certain few).
@Greywulf - I won't try to tell you what's innovative, because I, like you, have NEVER used Natal. Unlike you though, I have this crazy idea about actually PLAYING a game or peripheral before making an opinion. I don't make strong declarations based on a Youtube video or something similar.
Your conspiracy theory is that MS has so...
The same way games (mainly PS3 exclusives) are crowned "game of the year" or "best game ever" before they are even released.
Where have you been for the last year?
Just because Natal hasn't been released yet doesn't mean it doesn't exist. It obviously exists in prototype form, amd many people have tried it. It clearly qualifies as an "invention", which is what Time is referring to.
When it is finally released, it wil...
I pretty much agree with everything on those lists as well. Next generation should be easier and cheaper for all companies. Blu-ray technology will no longer be prohibitively expensive to include in consoles at launch, and 250gb or larger hard drives should also be pretty inexpensive to include in all consoles.
This generation was tough for both MS and Sony, and I think they each made (mostly) the right decisions. MS simply could not afford to include HD-DVD in all 360 conso...
Since when does only the number of cars count as "content"??
Where do you race those cars?? On tracks.
Forza 3 - 24 locations, 136 tracks.
GT5 - 20 locations - 70 tracks (announced).
Can you still play every game if you choose not to accept the agreement & upgrade?
I ask this because on my PSP, newer games require me to update my firmware. I can decline the update, but then I can't play certain games. In that light, the update is mandatory to me.
I can back up my opinion with dozens of reviews from many different sources - you guys can't.
GT5P shouldn't even be compared to Forza 2 or 3 because GT5P isn't a full game. But, since he insisted on bringing it up...
Just like you guys paying $40 for a demo, of which all the content will be in the full game. Will Sony offer rebates to GT5P buyers when the full game comes out?? I doubt it. You guys won't complain though - just bend over and take it from King Sony.
Been found wanting by who?? Certainly not by any unbiased source.
Only PS3 fanboys think GT5P is better than Forza 3.
Ah, yes - all the high scores that Forza 3 received were "bought" by MS.
All the high scores a PS3 exclusive gets are by 100% honest, unbiased reviewers.
You guys probably think the earth is flat, the holocaust was fake, and the moon landing was a conspiracy too.
You'd need three promotions to be a dumbass.
You're right, but it's just for fun. Nothing that anybody says will change anything - I just enjoy debating.
EDIT @ nolifeking - I remember the Genesis as well. Sonic was included with ALL consoles (after Sonic was released - before that, it was Altered Beast). In the case of the 360, there are different choices for different prices. I'll bubble you up for bringing up the Genesis, though - it's always been my favorite console.
The same thing was said about Halo 3:ODST. Then, when Xbox 360 posted big September hardware numbers, it was clear that Halo 3:ODST was a system seller. MW2 will move a lot of 360's even though it is multi-platform.
EDIT @ below - September sales increased over 60% from the previous month, despite the supposedly more popular Arcade model remaining unchanged at $199. Besides, it wasn't really a price drop. MS went from $199/$299/$399 to $199/$299. The $299 Elite is the same...
I wonder how much my "Menudo" box is worth?
Who admits that "nothing" on 360 can compare to KZ2, UC2, etc?? Those games have slightly better graphics than 360 exclusives, that's it. You make an extremely broad generalization there.
Graphics matter most to you - you've made that quite clear in your comments during the past year.
@ 1.32 - where do you get the impression that I'm using PC to fight 360's battles? I'll admit that the PS3 is capable of slightly better graphics, but remember, it came out a year later and cost $200-$300 more - it should have slightly better graphics. That doesn't mean that the 360 can't hold it's own graphically. MW2, as well as many other games, prove that quite well.
@ slimdaddy - the meaning of "exclusive" depends on whether you consider the PC to be a platfo...
What's your point? The PS3 fanbase claims that the PS3 has the "best" graphics, when clearly there are PC games with better graphics.
I don't own a PS3, yet I can still play games with better graphics. Isn't that the main point of the "exclusive" arguement? That a non-360 owner can play 360 games on a PC.
Why is it stupid to compare PC to PS3? Because doing so doesn't support your arguements?
PC either counts as a platform o...
Funny how PS3 fans have no problem bringing up PC when talking about 360 "exclusives", yet when the graphics arguement is brought up, specifically Crysis, suddenly PC doesn't count.
Because many of the comments here are by one person with multiple accounts. It's easy to give yourself bubbles.
If his points were really valid, there would be no need for the multiple accounts.
NFS Shift and Dirt are on 360 as well. Motorstorm, while a fun game, hardly compares to GT.
Damage control??? Why would I need to do that???
This article is about the GT franchise's sales, and I've contributed three to that number over the years (GT1, GT2, and GT3). I've also played GT4 and GT5P extensively even though I don't own them.
@ultimolu - If I was a Playstation hater, I wouldn't have given them so much of my money over the past years....