Hey Twelve - I'm just curious. What news organizations do you not consider corrupt?
The PS3 is like the New York Yankees. On paper, they always look like the best team, but they always seem to come up short at the end. Maybe 2009 will be their year. It's there for the taking. Question is, can they take it this time?
It's amazing how many Sony employees post on this site. I mean, everyone seems to know exactly what a PS3 costs to build and market, and exactly when and how much of a price drop will occur.
So, a system that plays EVERY game is only for someone who knows nothing about games, and is not for a "true" gamer? Who decides who is a true gamer - you? I guess the millions of people still buying and playing PS2's are not true games since they don't have a hard drive either.
Pretty ignorant comment. The Xbox 360 Arcade plays EVERY 360 game right out of the box. A hard drive is not required to play 360 games. It is simply not backwards compatible due to lack of a hard drive (which can be bought for $30 anyways). The 360 Arcade is positioned as a perfect upgrade for current PS2 players. PS2 players do not care about a hard drive, nor do they care about wireless online because PS2 has neither. They just want to play games, and have enough memory to save games....
I think a $100 price cut is unlikely. Thats a full 25% of the price, considering Sony is not yet making a profit on hardware. It will more likely be $50, like the Xbox 360's first price cut. Then, as production costs drop during the year, Sony can evaluate whether to profit from hardware or drop the price further depending on market conditions.
You are right when you say that America is not the world, but America is the biggest market. Japan, where PS3 is doing best, accounts for about 10% of the sales that the US does, while all European countries combined barely account for as many sales as the US alone. Winning the US is a HUGE victory. Remember, the PC Engine (Turbografx in the US), Sega Saturn, and Sega Master System all succeeded in either Japan or Europe, but because they flopped in the US, they are generally considered fa...
The next generation of consoles cannot exist under the same model that it does today. The only certainty is that Nintendo will continue to be extremely successful when they produce the next Wii. If Nintendo follows the same strategy and introduces the Wii 2 in 2010 or 2011, and uses 5 year old technology, then the specs will be something like this: PS3/XBOX 360 quality graphics running at 1080p high definition. Pretty impressive. More impressive is that they will probably sell it for $24...
Please post a link to where you find these supposed "worldwide" sales numbers. I'd like to take a look at where they come from.
There are no accurate sales charts for Europe as a whole, as there is for the US (NPD). PS3 fans just want to believe that the PS3 is ahead of 360 there. Spread a rumor long enough and people will start to believe it, true or not.
If you believe that the US economy will hurt the 360, the it will hurt PS3 even more due to it's higher price point.
So, PS3 is really winning the US because it has sold more just this year? Using that logic, the New York Yankees must be a better team than the Tampa Bay Rays because the Yankees won 2 of 3 last time they played.
Do you live everywhere else in the world? To me, I care only about the numbers where I live. Europe and Japan are completely different markets.
The PS3 is simply too far behind to catch the 360 in the US. Do the math. If Sony wanted to catch MS over the next 2 years (24 months), the PS3 would have to outsell the 360 by 170,000 units EVERY month without fail - and that would just cause a tie. With the 360 price drop, that will simply be impossible. It doesn't matter anyway, both systems are going to be around for a LONG time.
I was referring to PS4 or the next Xbox - not the current ones.
Good points. I think that the 360 has already succeeded enough that it will be this generation's PS2. By that I mean in 3-4 years from now, the 360 will be so cheap to produce and sell, and will have hundreds of high quality games for $10-$20, that it will easily have a 10 year life cycle. Even if new consoles do come out a few years from now, are consumers really going to shell out $500-$600 again for sequels to today's games - only with barely distinguishable upgrades in graphics? That'...
Sony had great success during the PS1 and PS2 eras by cutting prices in the US while ahead of it's main competitors. It's not desperation- it's an offensive move designed not only to gain more market share, but to put the competetion on the defensive. Now, Sony will have to sell even more in the US just to stay even, let alone catch the 360.
If you live in Europe or Japan, congratulations - brag about PS3 all you want. In the US, which is the focus of the 360 price drop, Wii is first, 360 is second, and PS3 is last, regardless of how many were sold just this year. Sony may win some battles, but they are losing the war. Since I live in the US, I will only comment about the US race.
Eurpoe and the US are very different markets. It's difficult to explain why a popular console in one market is not as popular in another, even with the same games. Also, there is a huge difference in dropping price when you are behind your main competitor (PS3 in Europe), and dropping price when you are well ahead, as it is in the US. Dropping prices from superior positions has worked very well for Sony in the past, and there is a good chance it will work for the 360 in the US as well.
The PS3 is like the New York Yankees. The once dominant champion now struggling to regain it's past glory. They always seem to have the best lineup on paper, but victories are not won on paper. These endless lists of 2009 PS3 exclusives mean NOTHING unless Sony can get enough people to not only buy the games, but consistently outsell the competetion. Until Sony proves they can do that, Nintendo and Microsoft will have nothing to be afraid of, just like the rest of baseball no longer fears...