DICE actually started out on the Amiga, then became better known for their PC titles. But I don't believe you can claim they aren't a multiplatform and thus console dev, they have been building games across all those platforms for ages now.
Really I only talked about relative performance to a PC, the key word was relative. Relatively, next gen consoles are much further behind performance wise to higher end hardware than Xbox 360 ever was when it launched.
I'll be honest even at 1080p the bitrate obviously ain't so good on youtube and the compression artifacts pretty sucky.
Will go looking for better quality. Wish they release some of these to be downloadable to get a better idea. If anyone finds a top quality source let me knows I will post one if I do....
OpenGL is great. Tiled resources Microsoft banged on about as if its a revolution and exclusive to windows and Xbone? Well that feature was in OpenGL first anyway!!!
Jaguar's sweetspot is between 1.6 and 2ghz. If you pump the clocks too high the TDP (and thus heat) soars very quickly because its not designed to be a very high clockspeed part.
We have NO confirmation that the finished retail PS4 hardware runs 1.6ghz, just the rough idea that is what was aimed for early on.
Microsoft have actively gone about pushing their clocks as hard as they can, Sony may not have bothered or they may have done the same. We'll ha...
OrangePowerz- well you're wrong.
Also you haven't actually played any of those finished games yet on finished hardware.
I can't honestly say hand on heart that I have seen anything that looks any better than what PC was capable of doing a couple years back e.g 2011 games- Battlefield 3 on ultra, The Witcher 2, Crysis 2 etc fogive me if I'm wrong, but isn't Battlefield 4 on PS4, the most powerful next gen console, unlikely to even be in nat...
At this stage in the console lifecycles part of the point is you don't even need a beast rig to smash the current consoles silly.
At the transition of the new consoles, you are only talking maybe 15-25 million new generation consoles sales in the first year, and probably as many people upgrading their PCs every year to make sure they stay ahead of the game. So by the time next gen consoles have serious market share after a couple years, PC technology is out of sight again...
@Jokesonyou
If you think the consoles will be near identical performance wise you should probably read your own quoted semi accurate source and particularly the part that says the GPU performance gap is pretty huge and Sony easily wins performance wise because of that.....
That site themselves only said what everyone else with some tech knowledge has pointed out. Nice fancy system design for Xbone to work with all the media functions but it'll still essen...
So you think a 10 percent clockspeed increase is significant P0werVR, which will translate to LESS than 10 percent real world CPU performance gain?
Ok. I don't.
Its welcome enough but it'll not be noticeable. Its not like developers can even access 8 cores on either machine anyway, what are they reserving, 2 cores on both consoles it seems?
They'll be lucky to see 5 percent real world gains in their code when it runs, most devs wo...
Tilde meaning 'about' clearly in that case.
Its a 10 percent increase over 1.6ghz. Significant? Not really, no matter even if its a console. Its there or thereabouts the expected performance of the part. 20-25 percent would be considered a significant boost, typically what you can get from most PC CPUs/smartphones.
Like GPU clock bumps, you don't always get perfect linear performance gains depending on what you do. 10 percent more clockspeed doesn...
I seriously doubt they even changed the voltage for this darthv72. If their projected minimum was 1.6ghz and they hit 1.75 at the same voltage then the power and heat difference in such a small CPU is negligible, next to nothing.
You have to remember even if Sony run their CPU @ 2ghz with a small voltage bump, these consoles are designed with heavy duty power saving capabilities. They have vastly superior performance per watt. The CPU design both consoles are based around is ...
The clocks were always going to be defined once the chip yields were known. If they were good, you would get better clocks. In this case it seems they are fair to middling. The target was 1.6-2.0ghz and they are somewhere in the middle.
Its a 10 percent increase over a 1.6ghz baseclock. Not exactly going to blow the doors off but hey.
Sony have probably been doing the same fine tuning of clocks as they see what sort of yields they get coming off the productio...
Its aaaaallllllllll fake.
I actually laughed out loud when by some extreme fudging and no idea of scale he came up with a die size of 525mm squared for Xbone's main processor.
525mm!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Thats nearly the size of a Geforce Titan die (550mm squared), with over 7 billion transistors. We already know that Xbone only has 5 billion. A whole bunch of that is just eSRAM.
Not to mention the fact there is an extremely li...
Sorry saber, but I laughed all the way through your rubbish post talking about PC, when at this point in the discussion its pretty clear you know nothing about it as a gaming system.
Why would a 550 watt PSU be maxed out on a single GPU and intel setup? That whole system at max load will NEVER pull down more than 450 watts even overclocked. ht...
Hardly a big deal, most people I know with older PS3s changed their HDDs long ago, because it is so straight forward.
These days 1tb 2.5 drives are less than 60 pounds.
You'll fit plenty of full installs on a drive like that, even if the games are 20-30gb a pop.
They took away a dimension and then used that as its marketing name! LOL!
The 'charts' speak for themselves. The cost breakdown is at the start of the article, down to every dollar for the hardware, except you could build that machine easily today for LESS than when the article was written in February.
http://www.tomshardware.com...
$240 for the card? Well heres an even faster one today for $190 shipped: ...
Really?
http://www.tomshardware.com...
Why not have a quick glance at an $800 dollar PC which is also now 6 months old (same stuff is cheaper now you can get a 7870 for less than $190 when they paid $240) managing Battlefield 3 on ultra @ 1080p with an average well over 60FPS at stock and over 70FPS OCed....
Even if you spend another $15...
Ha wow. Maybe Fraggle Rock http://www.youtube.com/watc... and Poddington Peas later?
It'll always look better on a good PC. The question is merely how close can DICE actually make the console versions.
Its a big ask knocking out so many versions stretching your team and on new console hardware. If you get 720p/60FPS and similar assets to maximum on PC then you shouldn't complain
In the past, Microsoft's hardware was superior in crucial ways which meant that the vast majority of games were on a roughly similar level.
X360 undeniably had a superior GPU and memory architecture, as well as better dev tools for years.
The REASON microsoft are panicking about performance, because this time they REALLY do know they have inferior hardware. They know they do. They are doing damage control because unlike previous generations they were quie...