In all fairness though, what was the last game that had the marketing of The Last of Us that was exclusive to PC?
Diablo 3? Maybe? And that sold far more than The Last of Us is going to. The hype for The Old Republic was pretty healthy as well, and EA published CG trailer after CG trailer for that.
I'm not sure the games themselves come into it all that much. An adventure title like the Last of Us on PC, made by a group other than Naughty Dog, would proba...
I love the level of insecurity in these threads.
"Your PC might be able to play games better than my 7 year old console, you might be able to play 20 years worth of titles regardless of what you play it on, you may have more exclusives than us and access to mods...
...but it's not a gaming system, because it can do other stuff."
This is a stupid thing to argue over. Like bottom of the barrel, special school kind of debate. If it...
@KingKellogg
If you bought it for playing games on, why the hell not?
Since when was anybody questioning that something that plays games is a kind of gaming system?
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And keep in mind, there are more games available for iPhone than on some dedicated gaming machines of the past, and with more variety, better graphics and better processing.
@rainslacker
I'm not sure you got my point.
What I'm saying is that N4G makes all their money from sites that keep the place populated. They don't do any original work. The sites write it up, volunteers moderate and submit it. Yet N4G probably gets more in revenue than 90% of the sites that submit here.
I can see why you'd enjoy the community and convenience of having access to dozens of sites from one place, but claiming it&#...
1. It really doesn't, especially when you factor in far cheaper games.
2. http://uk.ign.com/articles/...
I mean, that took me two seconds in Google. If using a search engine is strenuous for you, you might be the first person I've come across for whom PC gaming might actually live up to the "more complicated" myth.
There are literally dozens, probably hundreds of exclusives on PC each year, and Steam takes more or less every issue out of running games (and it was never that difficult unless you were trying to play a new game on vague hardware).
It's also not that expensive by a long shot.
I know you probably know all this and are just looking to justify (which is fine), but seriously, spreading nonsense like this doesn't help anyone, especially those that are lo...
@cyguration
You don't think N4G making more off these articles and news pieces than most of the original sources kind of defeats your point? I get what you want from a community, but if you want a place about gamers, this isn't it.
That depends what they mean by full restart. They're not going to destroy everything just to create bits and pieces again. They'll have an engine that can be modified, resources that can be reused...
They'll be able to build events, lore and locations in three years, and if it's based on one of their already existing IPs (which I'm sure I read it wasn't), that time will be significantly reduced again.
It doesn't matter whether it's wrong or right to me. I won't be buying it for many of the reasons you've just stated.
But then, I'm not going from place to place insulting people who just want to buy what they want without any trouble. Microsoft are doing what they think is right and all signs point to them "getting away with it." I use that term lightly, because there isn't anything they're especially getting away with.
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I had written out a long reply and then I actually read your anti-Apple bit. Yup, conversation over.
So long as the Xbox One is a decent product, it does what it should and Microsoft allow people to sell on their code (which they've already said is implemented) there's no problem here. Hell, you'll even be able to sell your disk (no matter what, even if it was shut down, you'd be able to do that). Things are different, not necessarily worse, but damn this comp...
Surely the consumer decides the rights they feel they deserve? It's not ignorance. They're not sheep. They're buying what they want to suit their purpose.
If the majority want to support things that piss you off, they have a right to do that. You're not some working class hero, speaking for a downtrodden minority, you're a guy on a website shouting off about things that will slightly inconvenience you at worst. Other people feel differently.
I think they really tried to differentiate themselves from GTA. There was a time where even Saints Row 2 was called a GTA clone.
No risk of that now.
They're pretty bad, but with good reason. Game development can't usually properly start until the filming has begun (final script, final casting, art direction sorted, locations finished up) and has to be finished by the time the film is done.
This gives the developer a pretty tight window of maybe 18 months, if they're lucky. Treyarch did their Bond game in 6 months.
So they're bad, but considering the work conditions and how many constraints...
@rainslacker
Do you have sources on any of these things? Any proof to back up what you're saying outside of people complaining on message boards?
I'm pretty sure the people who will buy new will more or less do so regardless of the used market (and those that don't will likely be about the same percentage as those that boycotted Battlefield 3, Mass Effect 3 etc.). The people who will be affected will be those who buy used, a group that publishers ...
http://allthingsd.com/20130...
So how come TV apps are still being used more than video games?
I swear there's so much wrong with the Xbox One, but most people are complaining about the wrong bit. If it's going to fail, it'll be because of the ridiculous DRM measures, not the fact that they're making a con...
"Soooo this is why they have shafted the gamers and focused on casual and entertainment for the last 4 years."
No, that's because that's who make Microsoft the most money for the least effort.
That doesn't mean there can't be core experiences as well, you're just not the target. They don't rely on your sale to turn a profit, and they probably never will again.
How that works out for them will be interesting, ...
It depends what you count as "indie" surely? A company that could afford the marketing and submission costs to make an Arcade game is still going to be able to publish on Xbox One.
Some little start-up... no way.
@FITgamer
I like how you chose the one part of his post that most of us have been taking for granted for years. Of course most of their first party teams have been working on next-gen games, and for a long time as well. The alternative is that they've been doing nothing, and while that makes for a fantastic anti-MS joke that I'm sure would be absolutely hilarious, it's unlikely at best.
You'd have been better quoting the emergency information ...
The best example of this was the mutilated bodies in Tomb Raider.
Naked men, hung up by their hands, their junk ripped off and a gaping wound left instead. It was like the perfect image for the "Violence OK, Sex bad" crowd.
Agreed. There's also the fact that there are way too many MMOFPS games on PC. By the time Destiny comes out, the likes of Planetside 2 will have been available over a year.
I know they're not exactly comparable, but the idea is similar enough that I'm not sure PC gamers would go as mad for it as console gamers will.