Sony didn't drag out the VHS/BETA war for 8 years, did they?
No wait, they did. I guess it didn't really hurt them did it?
How about Toshiba and the rest of the DVD forum(which voted for and still supports HD-DVD) just triples the fees for all SD-DVD releases?
Since DVD still makes up 95% of all disc sales, I'm willing to bet that would hurt Blu-ray exclusive companies more.
Billions? Blu-ray has a hell of a long way to go to be making billions (in actual profits) compaired to standard DVD.
$16 BILLION in standard DVD sales last year vs. $300 million for BOTH formats. That equals only about 5%.
http://www.usatoday.com/lif...
Only $131.00.
Plus you get 7 free movies.
http://www.amazon.com/Toshi...
And exactly how much will those profile 2.0 players cost?
I guess it would have been nice for Blu-ray to have waited and just incorporated all the features up front.
Obviously this is in reference to stand-alones. The PS3 is the best choice right now (for gamers and price conscious buyers), but some movie fans do not want a gaming machine as their Blu-ray player.
How much money is made in selling a $49 DVD player? Probabaly next to nothing. Sony knows this. Blu-ray gave them a way to introduce a new high-def format for a high-end price.
Alot of money has gone into product development for Blu-ray and Sony screwed it's other manufacturing partners by having to drop the price of the PS3 twice.
Now that the "war is over" like alot here like to say, then where will the pressure be to lower the price? Remember, Sony...
No, that would be an HD-A3 at Amazon.
http://www.amazon.com/Toshi...
Again, you have used your intellect and amazing persuasive arguments to change all of our minds and see your way of thinking.
Besides, the PS3 will have a great year, as well as the 360.
The only side using stats as arguments were the Blu-ray supporters. Ex: 50gig is bigger, Blu-ray has more bandwidth, etc.
In my opinion, the reason YOU don't see anymore HD-DVD fans here anymore is because of the childish Blu-ray posts like yourself who came out of your cave or bomb shelter to gloat over a format war that will end up being just a niche market.
And also, here are a couple arguments for HD-DVD:
1. $139 for new player and get 7 free movies.
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My bad! :)
1)Are you actually trying to tell me that Blu-ray player prices would have dropped FASTER without the competition of HD-DVD? That is laughable. You obviously know nothing about economics and supply and demand.
Ex: When a product is not increasing in sales, the price must drop to spure sales. The PS3 is a prime example. It's sales did not take off until the price dropped and the $399 pricepoint came out.
2)The big advantage HD-DVD had/has over Blu-ray is the abili...
Two things:
How can spending $130 for a player and getting 10 free movies be a "crappy deal"? If you do the math right, that means you would recieve almost $400 of product for $130. That seems like an awsome deal!
So your second comment about "money grabbing" seems to apply to Blu-ray as well since I assume that Blu-ray companies will want to make a profit on this new format of theirs.
There are two MAJOR differences:
1.DVD players worked on every EXISTING tv.
Blu-ray/HD-DVD require an HDTV......meaning the consumer has to make a huge purchase before even thinking of high-def media.
2.Upscalers.
Most consumers will not be able to justify paying hundreds more for a high-def player(that requires the appropriate high-def disc) when a brand new upscaling machine is in the sub-$100 range and gives a "close enough"...
You mean like Sony did? They waited for 8 years before they "gave up" and maid their first VHS player.
Exactly what is the average age of the typical HD-DVD hater....I mean Blu-ray/PS3 owner/supporter?
Seems to be in the pre-teen age range based on the fact based, persuasive, intellectually grounded arguments that are in this thread.
3,2,1...let the insults begin.
I agree, this move by Warner will only make it worse for HD-DVD. I don't see the immediate drop like TANOD is saying, but it will probably be before Warner goes completely exclusive in May.
What will be interesting is to see if Blu-ray can actually increase the 3-5% of the current movie market that high-def media has right now so it doesn't become a niche.
Actually, I believe that Wii owners pawned us all.
But, there are three major factors:
1.360 finally had competition from TWO new game consoles
2.Sony dropped the price twice.
3.Japan finally started buying the PS3.
P.S. The RROD problem did not help!
EDIT: whoever disagreed, at least have the guts to say why.
I guess if you actually believe that high-def discs will ever be as successful as SD-DVD.
In my opinion, the fact that overall SD-DVD sales were down indicates that the future of movie watching will be fractured between disc sales, downloads, and rentals.