TheCommentator

Sorry rain, I didn't realize I had to spell things out for you but if you an others around here want to continue to turn a blind eye to the services' shortcomings then be my guest. Detailed information about all the tenets I listed are readily available on the internet if you want to know more about what I'd said in my OP...

Not fake streaming, bad streaming. Don't confuse the two. On PS Now, there are resolution issues, lag issues, audio downgrades, missing features, no chat support, etc.

So yeah, this time it's for real. Lots of ideas start out in the market as barely passable demonstrations of what the future might be like. Like PSVR, for example.

Yes, but this generation of streaming services isn't going to be horrible like the ones currently available because (At least in the case of MS) both bandwidth and latency issues are going to be addressed. Google's services will require 25 megs but MS' services will be able to run on just 10 megs.

I find it ironic that the very limitations you talk about with current services are exactly the hurdles MS intends to overcome with their delivery system, which is wh...

Disagree with this:

https://www.techspot.com/ne...

You may be right, but at this point all I've heard about being tested in beta is Fortnite. We'll just have to see how Sony intends to handle games like Rocket League, Fallout 76, DOA 6, and others that also want to implement the feature once it's out of beta and accessible to everyone.

BTW, I hear MS is going to buy Obsidian soon...

Over 100 games a month, with every 1st party title available day one, for $10 a month? It markets itself just fine...

When their studio acquisitions publish titles the service is going to get better, sure, but to say that it's only going to last so long is a bit narrow-minded of you, IMO.

I have to ask at this point:

Is Sony going to make Yohei Shimbori's dreams come true, or is Fortnite going to be the only game that cross console play works on? Rocket League is still dreaming about cross console play...

@ Rain

Um, because the anchor comes last and slows down progress? Let's see how other cross console titles fair before declaring Sony is, "on board" too. As far as I can tell, Sony was pressured by the gaming community on one side and Epic on the other to quit F'n around with locking peoples' Fortnite accounts to the PS4.

Also, you don't design a console around cross console play, you design games around the feature. It only r...

Yep. Streaming from your home console to your phone at work is something MS has been planning with their Cloud streaming from the beginning.

Sorry, you're thinking about Sony's service, not one that's taken the time to address the latency issues surrounding game streaming. You should read the article if you really want to know about it.

What's that got to do with the point? Big deal if Sony started with PC crossplay, because MS and Nintendo finished things by allowing cross console play. If Sony is dragging the anchor on the subject of cross console then they're the ones at fault now for the limitations associated with it.

@ yellowgerbil

I disagree, and I think you're overreacting way too much about the harm you feel it will cause the industry. This isn't the Apocalypse, it's being able to play with other people and has nothing to do with exclusives that any of the 3 companies make. It's 1st party games that sell systems, not console manufacturers limiting 3rd parties from making their MP games more accessible through crossplay.

How can people disagree with this statement?

Ask Sony...

I would agree if crossplay involved extra cost for the console in order to implement, but it lliterally costs nothing... it's the console manufacturer's choice whether or not to support it.

It's not saying much for Sony that PS4 sales are down 20% then either...

Go play your PS2 sales...