Actually I think you should compare consoles you can buy at the same time for about the same price...
PS4 was initially cheaper than XBox One, nowadays XBox One is clearly cheaper. But still does not sell as well.
XBox One S at release should be compared with the PS4, will have some media features the PS4 wont have but will also be more expensive $399
If rumours are correct PS4 Neo will release later this year ($399 - $449) and should t...
I think the ESRAM will be gone. It takes area on the SOC, area much better used for GPU.
Scorpio should be strong enough to run XBox One games in some compatibility mode
- part of main memory serves as ESRAM
- Move engines copying to/from that area
- Bandwidth should be enough, latency could be a problem for games optimized against low latency.
Worst drawback, showing that Sony were right all the time...
@CrimsonWing69 thing is 2019 we have had PS4 for six years, time to start its retirement process...
Think we will be seeing two concurrent consoles from both Sony and Microsoft from now on going forward.
Getting stuck with almost decade old technology does not generate any buzz...
What price do you expect Scorpio to release at?
2016: Xbox One S $399
2017: Xbox Scorpio ?
Looking at the released film showing a CAD model of its main board it does NOT look like an open platform.
There are no sockets for memory, CPU, GPU, etc
Just a plain main board with every component soldered to it.
@hvd222 lets see... 6 Tflops is 50% more than 4 Tflops.
You can easily damage control that... has been done for three years now.
PS4 has 50% more GPU than XBox One.
And I expect a PlayStation Meerkat within a year of XBox Scorpio release...
(Sony will not be giving their lead away by being passive)
Lets see...
2016 August: PS4 v. XBox One S, think you can safely stay on PS4
2016 (rumour): PS4 NEO v. XBox One S, if you feel the need to upgrade to a NEO just do it.
2017 (announced early): PS4 NEO v. XBox Scorpio, upgrade if you must...
2018/2019 (guess): PS4 Meerkat, Sony will not let Scorpio stay on top for long...
https://www.yo...
No, think it already is in pre-production (game developers are said to have development systems).
Rumoured specifications of the Neo match actual releases from AMD.
I see no reason for Sony not to release it this year.
Scorpio on the other hand looks like it is still on the drawing board, that was no capture, film and photo, of a real existing board. That was component placement 3D model generated from CAD system. Compare with actual photographs of a real ...
Sony said before E3 that Neo exists, but that they were not going to show it at E3 2016...
(it is not Sony that is scared... I do not think Scorpio is even close to prototype hardware)
https://www.vg247.com/2016/...
@Lennoxb63 did you read my last section? I have seen more answers from Sony regarding compatibility than from Microsoft...
Consoles are not PC (or have not been). There is a reason why you need better hardware on PC to get Console performance. All users having exactly the same hardware opens optimization opportunities. You can optimize it to run at 99,9% (as a game creator you an always select to remove that chair or bush to stay within total rendering budget).
=&g...
"All games work on all devices , allowing people a choice on want console to pick up for their needs, you don't have a 4K tv and don't care about it but still want to play gears then Xbox one or one s is for you. You want to play gears on a laptop , Windows 10 store is for you. You want 4K graphics and VR , the Scorpio is for you."
If you want 1080p, will Scorpio help? Recent messages says yes if it uses dynamic scaling.
If you want 1080p @ 60Hz, ...
If there is nothing confusing... wouldn't you at least expect the producer of both XBox One and Project Scorpio communicate that clearly?
- is it only resolution (first message)
- is it only frame rate
- is it only VR
- can developers use power as they like?
- will Project Scorpio run
* _all_ XBox One games, i.e. hardware compatible to lowest detail
(eSRAM is not needed with new GDDR, will it be kept ...
Content, you have seen very little of FW Battlefront 3 - how can you judge? Compare at time of release (with EA Battlefront free upgrades). FW will need to update content and models to resemble a modern game, doing that will take a lot of time (just taking the models and textures will open another law suite, from Crytek), game modes will be even worse (rewrite from scratch, unless they have access to source code...)
Could you explain why you think FW Battlefront 3 has bett...
No, ESRAM would actually hurt raw FLOPS performance as it even in a 14nm process requires space on chip. That space can't be used for additional Cores or GPU CUs.
It will take less space in 14nm (if size in MB are the same), but it will take space. They could be going bigger again and use a bigger chip. But that drives cost - are MS willing to take low margin?
Before it is released Disney has no reason to shut it down.
When, if ever, it is released (from what I read original Battlefront 3 was shut down because it was never finished - only needed a couple of months more for years...) the letter will come immediately.
At time of release it will be interesting to compare with EA/DICE Battlefront.
- content
- graphics
- sound
- gameplay
I do not think this Battlefront 3 will win a...
Supposing your development takes a few years you could start on high end (if you avoid to upgrade).
Produce trailers in engine (real time) on that machine.
If game is delayed enough you will be able to hit your target quality.
But take a look at Battlefield 1 trailer, in engine (beginning of video), target rendering is XBox One! (end of video)
Doesn't it look and play a lot like Plants v. Zombies Garden Warfare?
XBox Two release in 2017 - sounds like Microsoft is scrambling again...
They was caught off guard with PS4 announcement, think that is the reason for their bulky XBox One with external power - HW integration takes time...
A late 2017 release sounds like earliest possible release, if pushing after PS4 Neo rumours begun to appear. It is really strange that Microsoft was not more ready when when it was they who started talking about the possibility...
There will be a third version of PS4 released too...
(generations has lost their meaning, why releasing something incompatible ever?)
XBox One
XBox One S
XBox Scorpio
PS4
PS4 Neo
PS4 ? (Meerkat, I would guess)