What rude awakening kennyboy? Where do you think the graphics technology comes from to build a next generation console? It doesn't come out of thin air i'll tell you that now.
What PC gamers have now, the technology, is what console gamers will have a year or so down the line in a next gen machine. Consoles don't get more power than PC when they launch. By the time next gen consoles launch PC gamers will be familiar with the level of graphics performance within th...
Well i don't know if you watched it in full screen, but the detail that had been dialled back on the plant pot and the plant was absurdly huge- the geometry has taken a huge hit.
Dice will have probably reduced details on objects that are less significant to try and keep fidelity high as possible even without the pack installed. However still seems to me you really wanna be installing this. If you see the other rather crappy screenshot comparing, you will see the gun look...
Yup, consoles have never been ahead, although a PC to beat 360 when it launched in 2005 was not very cheap. An athon X2 and X1800 is really faster than 360 and PS3. Oblivion was considered to be the most demanding game of the time, and a single X1800 had no trouble at all beating out 360 on it, nor on COD2, or Prey, or Quake 4 etc all 360 games of the time.
360 ran oblivion 1024 x 600 and 2 x AA, and it still did not run the max settings of the PC version. 5351d ago 0 agree1 disagreeView comment
Its canned persistantthug. What more do you want to clarify? Higher multiple SPE(the bit that actually makes it most unique) chips are gone. Direct lineage ended, History, Dead as a dodo. Whatever. The base design is finished, and only elements and echoes will survive in future designs, just as i said. Every chip around traces a fair bit of its design to ancient chips, so although the SPECIFIC architecture is dead, whole design concepts can resurface and hang about.
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It is really already what i said persistantthug, its academic. However you want to go into detail- The 32 SPE part was the direct lineage successor to PS3's cell, the smaller parts are minor derivatives.
In other words, 32 SPE, its direct successor that i mentioned- is dead in the water because of diminishing returns from additional SPEs. The other projects are more closely PPE based, which technically is part of the CELL but not so much the unique version that was develo...
Looks like i know plenty more about the consoles and hardware in general than you jack_burt0n...
The fact remains PS3's GPU is a fail, and if it weren't gimped or based on a dated design instead of a custom one like 360's GPU then PS3 would almost certainly outperform 360 comfortably in ALL circumstances and games, instead of losing in most multi plats and just edging 360's exclusives in a rare few cases.
The best devs use CELL as a graphics c...
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It is easy to look at that from a one sided perspective, and claim that there is no evidence that other console has had better visuals than a few PS3 exclusives. That sole claim does have some substance i will not dispute this.
HOWEVER this misses several extremely important points if you take a balanced viewpoint....
For example Killzone 2 and 3 are probably unrivalled in terms of visuals for FPS on PS3. However i question whether tha...
Happily happily waiting for the PC version. Increased texture resolution, Better AA, Physx, DX11, 3D vision, 60 frames, 1080p.
More than enough reasons to wait 4 weeks for me- its not like there isn't anything else to play right now is there?
Sony DID buy back the plant from Toshiba last year, but IBM and their technology was always the driving force behind the CPU development. After all, the whole thing was based on IBM's PowerPc architecture that they also licensed to Microsoft for 360's CPU. IBM long decided that the specific CELL architecture was a dead end. http://arstechnica.com/hard...
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I doubt this rumour, it IS a rumour. IBM abandoned CELL architecture a long time ago. Potentially they could be working on some kind of derivative from what they learned, but it will be more than slightly different. In other words, it is more likely to be in name only, rather than a direct lineage successor to PS3's CELL design.
Multithreading is still difficult, load balancing and latency beyond a certain number of cores makes many more SPE versions of CELL unworkable, h...
I haven't seen anything yet that says you can't install it on a USB stick drive. You can install games on them no problem. They are more limited for speed over the USB port and their speed will vary, but most should easily be as fast as the original 20Gb drive that came with the premium machines. If the machine decides your stick is slow it'll say there might be 'performance issues'
Whether Dice will allow that and think that the sticks have enough speed w...
El cheapo does beat out consoles fairly comfortably. You can optimise better and you should, but you can't beat better hardware.
Pretty much. Forza 4's car count has increased to try to compete with GT5's higher count, and that means less performance for each individual AI routine.
Less CPU time per car, more variables to calculate, dumber AI.
'The key is not to treat it like a PC or 360'
What so PS3 is a totally different system???? Bethesda just realised this????
Well done guys.
Personally i welcome more powerful machines....the sooner we get to the point more power wouldn't add much to the graphics the sooner we will be forced to exit the phase where graphics are emphasised.
It won't hurt when every game looks so great because then to stand out you'll need something else. Certainly the silicon barrier is approaching quickly and the advancement of computer performance for games will probably slow to a comparitive crawl at least temporaril...
After casting a quick glance at the beta performance of people with dual core and 8800GT systems i see they had no trouble at all playing the game on 'low' in 1440 x 900 even with a smidgen of AA and vsync too, over 30 frames a second. 1440 x 900 being over 40 percent more resolution than the console resolution, which also have no AA and a 'soft' vsync that can and probably will tear when they drop frames.
I think this is conclusive evidence that BF3 will be b...
I can see why reviewers might consider Forza 4 to be a better game. GAME.
I can see why sim purists such as myself consider GT5 to have better physics or generally being a better sim. SIM.
Its a fine line between what people want and desire more. For some people preferring GT5 for its physics and apparent more hardcore route gives them more enjoyment than Forza's excellent social integration.
Forza is arguably the more 'accessible'...
Last time i commented on this, was because people were saying that you needed a killer PC to beat the consoles.
I pointed out that the MINIMUM spec for BF3 was a core 2 and an 8800GT- a machine and GPU considerably faster than the consoles. Thus EVERYONE playing BF3 on PC, i.e everyone that meets bare minimum spec would be playing a version at least as good as console but in reality probably end up better.
This comment did not go down well and got tonnes of d...
PS3 is a tricky old thing to master no question. What he says about the platform is also technically true. However, what most people seem to be annoyed about is that RAGE has not really lived up to the hype as a technical tour de force.
What is worse for him is that the PC version was bodged to start with. There is NO valid excuses to be had for the problems on PC, no moaning about technical limitations.
Unfortunately when he says his studio can't improve...
Sorry kennyboy but this is just feverish waffling from you upset that PC gamers are enjoying what DICE say is a next gen game. I wouldn't quite call it next gen myself- DICE are good at hyperbole. But it is a pretty significant leap over anything i have seen on console. As it SHOULD be.
Banging on about next gen consoles battering BF3 and being upgradeable etc just reeks of jealousy and bitterness towards PC gamers. No next gen console will be beating a powerful PC of the...