"Yes, they lost a lot of money. Most people, though, seeing them push new tech that has caught on, would call it an investment."
Bluray, yes, The Cell, no. What Sony did was use the huge install base of the Playstation to help win the format war against HD-DVD all while sacrificing part of that userbase they amassed over the years. You see, when Apple comes out with a new iPhone and it sells 50% of the last one that isn't a success story even if it means they be...
"I wanted to give MS a chance."
That's like a Republican saying they wanted to give Obama a chance.
This is good news. We want new ip's to do well. What we don't want are quality developers like Naughty Dog who get stuck or forced into creating the same franchise because they are a hit like Uncharted.
So that argument that they should only release new ip's on new hardware is a myth. Dishonored is another game that was good and did well.
@DragonKnight,
"It's not "insurance" I just know how stupidly ignorant some people will be just because something negative is being said about an Xbox One game."
Stupidly ignorant? How about we take things into context shall we. When we have a member such as yourself who's been a Xbox hater long ago (before the Xbox One was even announced) and continues this brigade with other regulars around here that comment is just so hypocritical.
@DragonKnight,
"You know what's REALLY funny? The "exclusives" argument was made against the PS3 at the beginning of its life (PS3 has no games, Xbox 360 has better exclusives, etc) and look what happened. When are people going to learn that Sony always has too many exclusives to show all at once?"
What's even funnier is hearing people suggest the Xbox One isn't about games and when people list games those people don't comment on th...
"The thing is when MS said it, when they had advantages in power and accessibility, they failed to live to those boasts."
I don't think anyone believes the Xbox 360 to be more powerful than the PS3. Just easier to develop games on. The original Xbox was more powerful than the PS2 and it was easier for them to tap that extra power as opposed to the PS3. Games like GTA showed improvements and 1st party titles shined as well. The PS3 had great looking games like Un...
@DragonKnight,
"That being said, the PS1 and PS2 dominated for a reason, and I don't think anyone had a problem with their dominance considering how many epic games were created. If we can see something like that again, what would their be to complain about?"
Oh gee, I don't know, how about a company being complacent and charging $600 for a game console. All while not listening to game developers and not giving them good tools to work with. I'm s...
It worked for Nintendo in the past. Create a false demand by limiting supplies. That's not to say that will happen with the PS4 since it's getting lots of hype and praise but it's not out of the question. This is why I despise scalpers and those who purchase systems just to make a profit. They too are creating a false demand.
It will be really odd if Sony doesn't launch in Japan this year and treat that area as a tier 2 country. Odd you haven't talked abou...
@DragonKnight,
"I honestly can't understand how anyone can think they are going to be good for gaming and the gaming industry when they themselves have stated they are all about living room entertainment first."
But what you fail to neglect is the Xbox 360 has well over 900 games and we still have games coming out for it each month after it's been on the market since 2005. Yes, Microsoft studios are not making much if any more new games for it but th...
@dedicatedtogamers
"For how long have you been a gamer? Technology has always mattered. You think the 16-bit Genesis compared to the 8-bit NES didn't have any advantages? You think the SNES's hardware didn't have any advantages over the Genesis? You think the PS1's disc drive didn't allow games that were impossibly expensive on the N64?"
But how does any of that apply to the Xbox One and PS4 Ram differences? It doesn't. You are trying...
Since when did technology matter so much? Oh yes, ever since the PS3 came out even though the PC showed drastic improvements. Didn't seem to matter during the PS2 era. I guess when you control the market it's ok but when that market becomes much more competitive now it's an issue. Odd.
Even if both systems were 100% equal you would not bother with the Xbox One. So why worry about any advantage the PS4 may have? It's irrelevant to your debate when you picked yo...
We all know the complications the PS3 served to game developers. Finally Sony is listening with the PS4 and not building some proprietary hardware that only suits their own needs. You can't really blame those developers either for not tapping into the hardware and getting the most out of it.
Games like Killzone and Gran Turismo took forever to come out due to the hardware and getting used to it. Not every 3rd party developer has that luxury and 3rd party development tools...
@BillytheBarbarian
"You are trying way too hard to make this about Sony versus Xbox."
Yes he is. That's what Sony fanboys do. What amazes me is how much free time they have and how dedicated they are at making sure their closest competitor is always being bashed.
So instead of enjoying what Sony provides them they are far more concerned at making Microsoft look bad.
Back in those old days like the Atari and Odys...
@HammadTheBeast,
Here is a comment of his about a year and a half ago,
"The Xbox 720 is just now using Blu-Ray which the Ps3 has had for the past 6 years... who's behind? Half of the Xbox 360 sales are from 2nd consoles people buy to replace RROD victims.
The PS3 has much better tech and games
Tell me one Xbox 360 game, not a shooter, that has redefined a genre. Yeah shut up. And here comes Twisted Metal and Starhawk...
When both of these systems come out gamers will notice right away the differences. From how fast and seamless it is to navigate, to how fast you will download items. On the games we will also see it right away with games like Forza 5 and how that computing power within the cloud will monitor your driving habits and be able to use that data in online races. You will also notice the how low latency will be playing with other people around the world on the Xbox One.
Microsoft wi...
Anyone care to explain why someone who says all the talk was about TV gets more agrees than those who mention E3 and list actual games coming gets more disagrees?
This is what happens when you have a gaming site dominated by one fanbase, a false representation of what's really going on.
@LaChance,
That's the thing, people on here kept harping on the Xbox for not having games for the core audience and now that they've shown they are indeed coming to the Xbox One what do people do here? Talk about everything else besides the games.
Forza 5
Killer Instinct
Sunset Overdrive
Minecraft Xbox Edition
Quantum Break
D4
Project Spark
Ryse
Titanfall
Dead Rising 3
Bel...
The Xbox One is an important piece to MS future plans and that is to tie Windows into all of their devices. Finally they will have Smartglass and Windows all integrated into various Window platforms, including the Xbox One. They did a terrible job last generation on the PC front and getting Windows into the Xbox.
Microsoft will also spends hundreds of millions of dollars into advertising. That is where they will once again trump both Nintendo and Sony. They can also afford a ...
They don't look that great to me, Infamous looks awesome but that won't be out until next year.
"Yes Mike I am sure you think this is good news...."
It is, didn't I just say that? Naughty Dog is one of the best developers out there and new ip's are always welcomed. You see, unlike a lot of people around here I can say positive things about games on various platforms because it's the games that matter most.
"I know there are more exclusives coming for the PS3,but I seem to have missed the 360 exclusive games that are coming.Cou...