Reminds me of the old face plates for the 360 back before MS killed them off.
Yes, it's bad for gamers. We're unlikely to see the PS4 or Xbox One pushed to their limits as a result of the Neo/Scorpio. Look at the Xbox 360 and PS3, and imagine if developers stopped pushing the hardware 3 to 4 years in. We never would've saw the significant improvements developers achieved in the later half of the cycle. The fact that literally ancient hardware that was already outdated when it released was able to run games like Crysis 3 shows what optimization can achieve, ...
Because a lot of console gamers wanted it? I loved the game, but I haven't played it since I got rid of my 360.I'll gladly pick up a remaster, and the fact that it'll actually have some degree of mod support is an even bigger plus.
Honestly, that's my biggest concern and a big reason I'm considering moving to PC gaming if the Neo and Scorpio are actually successful. One of the biggest advantages offered by consoles was optimization over it's life cycle. Optimization allowed dated hardware like the PS3 and 360 to produce games like the Last of Us and Halo 4. If this whole 'mid-generation' nonsense really takes off, that's going to be a thing of the past. Console hardware will never be pushed to it...
The PC version of the remaster is free if you already own Skyrim. This is aimed at console owners entirely.
Of course they aren't abandoning it. If anything, the Scorpio proves that MS is commited to sucking as much money from consumers as possible by upending the console market and introducing a smart phone-esque upgrade cycle to gaming. Sony is in the same boat. It kills me that people are actually celebrating this change when it is going to effectively cripple optimization, thus reducing the actual value of buying a console. Spending $400 in exchange for a machine that offered a consistently...
Gotta love Microsoft trying to change something that wasn't broken. I hope both the Scorpio and Neo flop hard, so this 'mid-generation' bullshit can be put in the same coffin that the idea of an always online, DRM centric console fell into. If it doesn't, the console market is going to start looking a lot like the smart phone market.
None of the above. Fuck this mid generation bullshit. If Sony and MS are going to try and force short, 3 to 4 year cycles on the console market, I'll just invest in a good PC once they start shitting on the PS4 and X1.
...Or just throw a figure with an N7 helmet on the cover, and be done with it. I'm all for having diversity in games, but this suggestion smacks of checking a box on the social justice sheet.
Do you not remember the PS3 and all the bullshit Sony pulled with it? How they used it to try and push their preferred format, and when gamers complained about the excessive price, they told everyone to get a second job to afford it? You know, all the shit that took them from rocking the console wars during the PS2 years to barely selling more than the 360? Sony is just as money grubbing as Microsoft. They are corporations.
And in the end, it's not Sony that's goin...
This doesn't mean much. What good is a normal lifespan for the PS4 if the games end up being stripped down, poorly optimized ports from the Neo? If games are developed for the PS4, and the extra power of the Neo is just used to bump the framerate or resolution, that'd be one thing. But I really, really doubt that'll be what happens if the Neo sells well. The Scorpio has the same problem.
Agreed. Both the Neo and Scorpio are going to be terrible for owners of the PS4 and Xbox One If they are actually succesful. The older consoles are going to get nothing but stripped down, poorly optimized ports of games as developers focus their efforts on the Neo/Scorpio. If the PS4 and X1 had actually had a full console generation, that'd be perfectly acceptable, but they aren't even three years old yet.
It's effectively suicide for the Xbox brand.They are throwing a system with closed hardware into the market with a PC price tag, and then giving it's exclusives to it's closest comeptition. If I'm going to spend $600+ dollars on a platform for gaming, I'll invest in a low end PC when it comes out. By that time, I could scrap together a rig with roughly the same specs as the Scorpio, have all it's exclusives plus PC exclusives, free online, cheaper games, and in three t...
Depends on the price tag. If the Scorpio ends up being too expensive, then the power doesn't matter. The console market isn't friendly to systems with a price tag above $400. The PS3 did abysmally at launch because of how expensive it was, and the Xbox One didn't fair much better.
Personally, I hope both the Neo and the Scorpio flop horrendously. The console market was perfect as it was, with new consoles releasing every 5 to 6 years. It gave developers time to...
Kinda hard to make a chart when we don't have any real idea of what the Neo's specs are from any reliable source. Rumors from 'insiders' are just rumors.
...Right. Given it's specs and what they claim it'll be capable of, there is no way it's going to launch below $500, and I wouldn't be surprised if it was even higher. Consoles that have launched above $400 have never sold well, and I don't see that changing.
Pretty much. After owning an Xbox 360 and an Xbox One, I won't be purchasing another Microsoft console. If releasing a new console every 4 years or so is going to be the new normal and all Xbox games will be playable on PC, I'll invest in a solid PC rig instead. It'll have better performance, and it's likely to be cheaper in the long run too.
The average has always been 5 to 6 years. The only console I know of that only lasted 4 was the original Xbox. This particular cycle has been way too short.
...Well, there goes any hope I had for that console. If they are just trying to suck up casuals from the mobile market again, meh.
Sums up my feelings pretty well. I bought the PS4, and more recently the Xbox One, expecting a 5 to 6 year cycle over which developers would fine tune their engines and deliver steadily improving graphics, as they have for every generation since I started gaming. Instead, after less than 3 years they are throwing out new consoles that are going to throw a wrench into the entire process. Why would developers continue to try and optimize their engines for the PS4 or Xbox One, when they can just...