"And Sony + Square obviously saw those complaints if they went back and corrected it."
Or someone decided there's more money to be made now by doing a sale on the DLC and gifting anyone still holding out on buying the game with the opportunity to buy the upgrade. It has been 9 months. They probably snickered to themselves imagining how they could maneuver the most dedicated hater trolls to frame them allowing people to buy their product as them listening and c...
@Orchard
"I've been clear from the start that I believe they should support PS5 properly with PS+. Not sure what's so hard for you to understand there -"
Classic Orchard tactics. Rather than respond to the argument, you respond to a challenge that was never issued to give the impression it was. It's deflection. When did I argue that you switched up your position on PS5 support? Do you not understand your own arguments, or is it that you think ...
"And yes, FF7 is an expensive game, but it's also a balancing act - other months we get weak/cheap titles like the glorified Godfall demo..."
Sir, we already did the math on the cost of PS+ (without taking into account discounts) versus prices FF7R is still selling for today (including discounted prices) and the prices of the 20 games released exclusively for PS5 subscribers (which I lowballed at $5 each for sake of argument). Again, vanilla FF7R for PS4 (Toda...
"Well each to their own - I've moved on from PS4 (minus a few backlog games) and expect PS+ to match my current console. Also, the game is a free upgrade for anyone who bought the PS4 version so I expect the same via PS+."
Yes, to each their own, but that's a dodge by you. You didn't argue that PS+ has less personal value for you because you've "moved on from PS4 (minus a few backlog games)" (whatever that means). You argued that you expe...
"They just screw the early adopters who spent $500 on their hardware by doing non-upgradable versions."
I forgot about the Playstation Plus Collection in my last reply. That's 20 games provided from jump to the PS+ subscribing "early adopters" you're saying are being screwed. It's interesting that your argument is "we pay a lot for PS+ and I expect the PS5 upgrades to be included," and you just had to expand that argument beyond tal...
@Orchard
"It’s simple - we pay a lot for PS+ and I expect the PS5 upgrades to be included."
Maybe you have unrealistic expectations. Your rationale is that we pay a lot for PS+, but the best (USD) price I've found on the base PS4 edition right now, 9 months after dropping on PS+, during the holidays, is 42% of what it costs for a whole year of PS+, equal to the price it costs for a 3 month sub, and 2.5x the price of a 1 month sub. Yes, someo...
I don't get why there's any need for "blame" at all. It's a full priced AAA game included with PS+ less than a year after it's initial release. Something was negotiated to make that happen. This isn't Godfall. The full game that I bought for $60 at launch released on PS+ less than a year later. Who predicted that game dropping on PS+ for free before Game Pass, or dropping on PS+ before debuting on PC or Xbox? I don't get the controversy. Does owning the PS+ c...
Why do you frame it that way?
The initial PS+ release was an exceptional get for the PS+ games this year. It's a game that came out the year prior to dropping on PS+. The base PS4 copy is still selling for $24.99 at popular retailers like Game Stop and Amazon. $59.99 at Best Buy. That's PS4 standard edition, not Intergrade. $24.99 is 42% of the cost of a year of PS+ ($59.99). That one PS+ release, among multiple PS+ releases that month, is currently 42% (or more) o...
@4Sh0w
Nonsense. You're all over the place trying to attribute disparate attitudes within the gaming community on supporting developers to PS fans in response to someone who didn't say a single, solitary word expressing concern for developers in arguing why they prefer ownership over subscription.
"Yes if you pay attention it is inconsistent with the general theme of the *criticsm Im seeing levied at Gamepass= ps folks keep screaming about h...
"I dont get how the USED GAME market was just championed by Sony & its fans last gen but suddenly ps fans only want to play games they will physically own for a lifetime now????"
Make this make sense. PS fans championed the used game market, "but suddenly" PS fans only want to play games they will physically own? How is that inconsistent? Or were you attempting to push some bad faith, sleight of hand, straw-man argument to pretend fans preferring to ...
Marketing and production remain necessary expenses for games released on subscription services. Platform holders may come to agreements with 3rd party publishers to help with those costs, but that's no different than how such arrangements exist for non-subscription releases.
Licensing costs going away hurt the subscription platform holder when it's a platform holder like Xbox that will lose out directly, on licensing fees from 3rd party releases on the subscription...
@343
You 66 days ago:
"The problem is PS gamers are upset they have no one to play console wars with."
https://n4g.com/comments/re...
Then you dropped by here to "play console wars." Don't bother insulting anyone's intelligence by pretending you coming here and downplaying PS exclusives while talking about how you&...
Sparse? Xbox is still still trying to catch up to Playstation's game releases from last gen ... to say the least (since the PS3/360 days really). That's "sparse."
Trolling done by Xbox fans on this site wouldn't be so insufferable if not for the fact that many Xbox supporters here will cry about toxic PS fans on N4G while ignoring examples like this, with you and 343 popping up right on cue to shade PS in a PS article comment section. Some of the peop...
"Spider-Man: Miles Morales has a lower score than the Spider-Man (2018). Where's the buff for the black superhero?"
I was about to mention that to support the point you made in the post about Mafia.
"If they were willing to look at things objectively, they'd realize that the data doesn't back up how they feel."
You just hit the nail on the head. They have no interest in looking at it objectively or makin...
The projection you and other commenters have engaged in says more about you than any of the games you have an axe to grind with because they feature Black or LGBT characters. It's amazing how lacking you are in self awareness as you cry and imply it's others with the agenda trying to force those issues. The games have representation. Get over it. That doesn't make TLOU2 "about lesbian and lgbt" anymore than the other featured characters make it about heterosexuality. You...
@DEEHULK88
That little bit of information overwhelmed you? That explains your posts.
@DEEHULK88
You either have no clue what you're talking about or are deliberately engaging in revisionist history.
Your profile shows you joined this site in 2017. Here are some things that happened before then:
1) There was a big push from users to get VGChartz banned from N4G. Their credibility was constantly challenged. They obviously were not banned.
2) Xbox coincidentally decided to stop reporting sales numbe...
@DJStotty
Halo Infinite.
"The decision to shift our release is the result of multiple factors that have contributed to development challenges, including the ongoing COVID-related impacts affecting us all this year."
https://ew.com/gaming/halo-...
"Funny how COVID doesn't seem to be affecting Sony's game development."
I'm sure it has to an extent. Just as I'm sure other companies embellish the extent to which COVID was responsible for their development woes.
@darthv72
There's a saying that goes "real recognize real." The logical extension of that would be real recognize fake too.
Your comments here are why you receive so many negative reactions from people even when you post something they would otherwise deem unbiased or agreeable in isolation or coming from someone else. You come off like someone who would let the Xbox freak flag fly and talk a lot of trash if only Xbox was dominating the mar...