Kayant

So you're telling me it's more than fair to compare a service you pay for (Premium) to one you don't... That makes no sense. That's like comparing PSN to XBL free which you can't really compare because you can't really do much with XBL free whereas you can do almost all the premium stuff of XBL on PS for free (Playing online, access to all apps).

"if a strong network (regardless of funding) is a priority they would have fixed that problem long ago...

Well that may be true but you also have to remember PSN is free the amount they can invest in it is limited but with PS4 having needing PS+ they will have a more robust network. You have to remember XBL is a paid service that generates a lot of revenue to have a more stable network. When both are paid then you can fairly compare them.

Hmmm true... It's the latest footage we have of the single player since E3 and from looking at the armour especially the colour palette and the facial features(hair), skin tone it's more in line to the pic from the new build which will probably be close to what was shown from the halo tournament.

It's a downgrade in what we were told and shown true but it still looks just as good IMO.

Finally a written article. Thanks Abriael :)

Also in video format not the same scene btw -

E3 ---> http://www.youtube.com/watc...

Newer build of single player --> http://www.youtube.com/watc...

Problem with Deep down is that was never said to be gameplay iirc and was a tech demo showing the Panta Rhei Engine on the PS4 and was probably in-engine footage not gameplay. The game is also not going to be out for sometime.

In video format (Not the best because it's youtube but you can see that it's the updated build the armour changes match the pic)...

E3 ---> http://www.youtube.com/watc...

New build --> http://www.youtube.com/watc...

Also keep in mind new build is also available in 1080p.
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I agree people should be punished for those kind of actions but in this case it's MS's mistake and the punishment being handed out is quite excessive for what people of done. They went above and beyond and banned people's consoles and all accounts on it for accessing content which was the fault of MS's actions. Didn't you find that a bit too much as a punishment for exploiting MS's mistakes considering they're not out right stealing here.

Couldn...

You do know that Linux powers the internet and a lot of electronics right. So yh it must be obviously garbage /s.

Dat Marketing Budget.... I was actually hoping to get hands on with both XB1 & PS4 at Eurogamer Expo but don't make it looks like I have another chance with one :)... I wonder where in London it's going to be should be fun will try make it this time.

One does not simply 180 on an unconfirmed rumour.

Yh I will ^_^

Damn!! Dat Roll o.O

Yh I know the difference is big Forza 5's environment looks way better and like you said more detailed and realistic... Can't they have kept the same lighting and shadow effects as Forza 4 with the improved world??

My problem with Forza 5 has been the lighting and shadows. DC really spoiled me :p.

Hmmm.... Ok if they using all the hardware now but not efficiently isn't that not truly using all the hardware considering you can do things better at later stages in the console cycle? That's not truly using all 100% of the hardware if you can do it better later on.

Just saw this on Gaf some minutes ago. You know what Forza 4 actually has better lighting and shadows. I mean the light from the sun actually has an affect on the car look at the end of the video. Also it actually feel like the car has passed through a new area because you can see how the shadows react with the car you can't really tell that in 5. Seriously what happened there?

Spin? Really now... Please show us how this is a spin?

@The realness

I guess the CEO of Crytek must be lying then --> https://twitter.com/Realtim...

What??? That doesn't make sense when the two slides have the exact same information....

KNOWN fact - Confirmed by the CEO of Crytek himself ----> https://twitter.com/Realtim...

Anyway's there's nothing much to complain about it still looks good and if it means better performance then that's even better.

@BallsEye

Wooow how am i misleading people when I said "Obviously MS paid more has their solution is completely custom from the base Jaguar architecture"....

All I said was that Sony paid quite a bit aswell but not the same as MS because their solution is completely custom.

Re-read my comment before calling me a lair please. "like the XB1's" is there for a reason you know.

Seeing as there is no docume...