I don't even know why I would want to play this 13 years later in any case, everyone was obsessed with this game just for the production values. Gameplay has been surpassed by a wide margin even in the last generation.
Makes no sense to me.
https://youtu.be/7sTxmRTlIW...
This is the most unbiased and objective analysis of the story I've seen so far.
There are some incongruences and I see why some people are pissed by some choices. But calling the story "objectively bad" is questionable at least.
I think the main problem is people's affection to the first game. Which is ok, but it shouldn't influence you...
The thing I love the most about this game is how it makes the player feel the same emotions of the controlled character.
In the Nora scene, I felt rage.
In the final scene, I felt sorry. And it was exactly the point, I don't think Ellie seriously wanted to hurt her after all that time... she just needed to do it. Like us.
@Foxtrot
Jesus man calm down. No need to be so salty.
I don't think that the 20 years off camera can be comparable to the 5 years of Joel with Ellie. You can easily see that Ellie changed Joel.
Also, I can't see why he couldn't strive to change as well, in an effort to be more likeable to Ellie.
Anyway you can have a different opinion, but don't be so mean with that tone. It makes your reasons seem less credible...
@Foxtrot
The reason of Joel being so friendly is even explained by the game, in a note you find with Ellie.
Jackson village was striving to regain humanity by trusting strangers a little bit more.
Ellie never had an issue with forgiveness in the first game?
Dude, it was literally the last frame of the game where Ellie was visibly doubtful of what joel was saying. Just by seeing that, you would know that the sequel would talk about her having a conflict by knowing the truth in the end.
The Part II had to be a forgiveness tale. It was written in the first game's finale.
I find this analysis to be a little, just a little more deep and credible than "Ending is dumb, revenge bad, script ends with yep".
It's not cool to say this on the internet apparently, but for me it's the other way around...
You don't play as a trans and you should actually play a videogame before talking like this.
Abby is muscular because she wanted to be strong. And yeah, she's ugly because of that, we can have ugly characters too you know.
She also has very masculine look because for some interpretations she represents another version of one certain man se killed...
@Applyo
You think we're so dumb not to notice you're a troll account with 5 comments huh?
It's because of persons like you that it's impossible to take too seriously the hate about this game. You're digging your own grave.
Try again next time buddy.
Well Sekiro was a very good take. My favourite game with this kind of setting.
I mean, it's hard to say without playing the actual game, but from the video it just looked derivative and not very inspired. It may still be fun, I'm just not hyped for this release at all.
To be honest, I watched the gameplay videos and it didn't impress me that much. Graphically very impressive, the setting looks great, but gameplay-wise It looks like an Assassin's Creed type of game, not something I would enjoy.
Paper Mario gets released the same day so I'm gonna go with that one. I want to hear some opinions before buying this.
Ow, that sounds awful. Must be a 60 on metacritic. Let me see-oh wait.
I can't stand when people is clearly, clearly nitpicking and they exaggerate things because they WANT to hate the game. Most times for political reasons, apparently.
We got the same reaction for Death Stranding because it was the same thing.
With Death Stranding it was only easier to get why people disliked it. It was not a game for everyone, and not in an "elitist" sense. Just not everyone enjoys it.
For me, BotW was a fantastic reinvention of the Zelda formula. It was Zelda, the "original" open world game, but in a modern open world. It worked out so well for me.
But there were still some problems. The major problem I had is that the story, even if I thought it was ok and the dungeons were totally amazing, was very short. I wanted more, way more.
Also, the game needed more real sidequests aside from the shrines, it was actually kind of bori...
I'm not a fan of Slant, at all, but I love how the review says "This game was reviewed using a retail copy purchased by the reviewer".
Like, "look, I bought the game myself, ok? No bribes or s**t like that"
A good review of TLoU2 that comes out 2 weeks after the embargo lifted from a harsh site? What's going on?
I wouldn't say BotW is overrated. I see where the high scores come from, it achieves something really remarkable.
What puzzles me is the consistency of those scores, but this happens very often with critics.
@DrDeath: it was not an aesthetic choice.
It was character development.
They are two different things but they can, and should, be considered consequential.
It fits for me that the ending of the first game leads to this story. I don't find it contrived.
While I agree with you that the characters take a very different evolution than in the first one, I don't see why they shouldn't anyway. It's a different story, a lot of years have passed, Ellie turned into an adult.
I see your point, I just ...