And when that happens, as always, the modding community will solve this problem.
They don't surround us at all; we surround them.
Seriously, this one story has single-handedly ruined what has been an otherwise spectacular week for gaming news. Uncool, Nintendo. Uncool.
"Then the last generation of gaming will probably be the PS4, next Xbox and Nintendo console."
If that conclusion met even the most basic standards of reasonableness, it would be worth taking into consideration.
But seeing as how piracy will still be highly illegal even in a world where jailbreaking is acceptable, your argument fails to satisfy those standards.
"Won't happen console manufacturers would lose millions possibly billions...."
Modding a system is fair use. Piracy is not, and would still be very obviously illegal and carry ideally harsh penalties.
"you basically just told pirates/hackers that it's ok too pirate"
If you want to send the message that it is not okay to pirate, prosecute the pirates.
"So if that happens as long as peo...
"I want it to kill all of Geo's money and finance"
Not ever going to happen. If things look even remotely serious for Geohot, all he has to do is solicit the EFF. This is precisely the kind of case they jump at the chance to take, and they work for free to boot.
Hopefully, this backfires on Sony like it did in Spain and winds up legalizing console jailbreaking in this country for good.
Wow, the DS just keeps on truckin'.
:-(
Wake me when we reach the part of the day where companies actually release the actual unit sales.
"Tell me why they hacked it , and told the world .....when you could just use a PC with out going through all this trouble?"
Thanks to their work, I can play legally-obtained fan translations of PS3 games.
I cannot do that on a PC.
In fact, the only way I could possibly play those fan translations on the PC would be to pirate them, and that would be wrong.
"hackers just got themselves in deeper shit, but I guess their mentality was "were all fucked anyways so we might as well release everything"
I assure you, the mentality was almost certainly more along the lines of 'Hmm, Sony is trying to use US copyright laws to charge us with US crimes. It sure is nice to live in Europe!'
Look, the point is that once you put something on the internet, whether we like it or not, it is there forever. You can either choose to waste time, money, and energy trying and failing to take it down for good, or you can devote your resources to finding an actual solution to the current situation.
Man, some great games right there.
"the question still comes back to whether or not direct responsibility/blame falls on the person who hacked the console and allowed pirating to happen, or the person who decides to use the hack to pirate himself."
No offense, but this is not a question for most rational people.
Person A sells a crowbar. Person B buys a crowbar and uses it to open a crate. Person C buys a crowbar, uses it to break into a house, and assaults someone with it.
Technically possible but entirely impractical. A PSN ban is difficult to circumvent through personal modification of the system and will almost certainly hold up in court.
On the other hand, bricking the system will accomplish little in deterring hackers -- I have every confidence that the Homebrew community is working on a Pandora/BootMii style program to back-up the boot software and functionally brick-proof the system.
As for the legality of attemptin...
"you wouldnt make a very smart criminal mahr"
I have in modded in some fashion almost every single console I have ever owned, and I have owned a considerable number of them. According to your bizarre logic, that already makes me a criminal, now, doesn't it?
And yet here I sit, in good conscience and in precisely zero fear of ever even getting arrested, let alone going to jail, for anything.
"good luck with that. wan...
"too bad mahr. for ever case you nitpick theres a hundred others where the rulin went the other way."
If there are a hundred, then it would have been very easy for you to link me to them.
"nice try but you fail."
My cases have the benefit of being real; yours are imaginary. I win.
"and sony and ever company with anything to lose an their lawyers > over the eff."
Son...
"Do you not realize that Title I of the US DMCA, the WIPO Copyright and Performances and Phonograms Treaties Implementation Act has provisions that prevent persons from circumventing a technological measure that effectively controls access to a work."
Sorry, Charlie, but the technical law is irrelevant; whether or not a court will enforce that law is what actually matters. And the courts have ruled time and time again that laws involving the circumvention of copy ...
"But on the other hand, wasn't code "stolen"?"
Assuming marcan and co were telling the truth in their presentation, the master key was independently discovered, which does not satisfy any legal definitions of theft that I am aware of.
Excellent news. The courts will almost certainly side with Geohot on this, and then the American modding community can finally get that precedent we have been waiting for. The one guaranteeing full protection for what we do.
"Except there isn't any modding community on console asides unreal on ps3."
Different type of modding.