I'd rather pay for a game on Steam than have it free on Epic Games Store.
Or at least it will take forever to get there. It's not like any early UE4 games matched that lava cave trailer.
A nice piece of proof-as if anymore was needed-that a game isn't automatically a success if it sells "millions of copies."
I wonder how many people who didn't buy Dishonored 2 or Deathloop are going to complain about Arkane making a Marvel game instead of working on an original IP.
"Remember when online gaming was actually just fun and you could hop into a match of Warhawk or Halo or CoD or Last of Us Factions or Uncharted online and not need to deal with all this?"
Yes. But now if a game doesn't have all that nonsense, people move on almost immediately. If devs launch a multiplayer game and then don't immediately start adding random crap via updates, people say they abandoned the game and "sent it out to die." Or even if a...
For a brief period of time, it was a useful shorthand for something that had hamfisted, pandering writing where the story was secondary to the writer's misguided goal of winning points. Like when a show introduced an over the top gay character who doesn't resemble any gay person you meet in reality or a black character who talks entirely in platitudes that sound like they were written by white American college students.
However, as you say, the people who actually e...
@BehindTheRows
Oh I am. I'm not talking about when every Xbox game was coming to PC. I'm talking about when BioShock came out in 2007 on PC and 360 (and we didn't yet know a PS3 version was coming a year later). I'm talking about Left 4 Dead 1-2 in 2008-2009 when PS3 never got those games. I'm talking about Fable 3 in 2010-2011.
Again, I guess I keep misunderstanding how young everyone is on here. When I talk about how things were awhi...
@Terry_B
Yeah for purposes of my argument, 2018 is basically now. I mean that was late PS4 generation, when the trends we are seeing now were already in place. I'm talking about longer ago than that.
@Einhander1972
Sure. I'm not saying individual people like that didn't exist. I have been one of those people for awhile. I'm saying that in the 360/PS3 era when there was some big Xbox exclusive that was also on PC and tons of PlayStation fans...
@neutralgamer1992
Yep. I can't stand it. I have steam and I tolerate GOG, because they at least theoretically have a different mission than steam (a focus on older games not available elsewhere). But beyond that, it just gets obnoxious. When a friend tells me I should try a game or that they want to play some multiplayer game together, and it doesn't show up on a search on Steam, that's usually the end of the road for me.
PS4, I guess. Unless steam deck is counted in that ranking.
"I have a PlayStation so I'll just buy the Xbox games on PC" used to just be something PlayStation fanboys said to win arguments. Now it seems like it might really be a reality for a lot of people.
That is what is surprising to me. Whatever the problems the the Xbox Series Consoles, I certainly thought they'd do better than Xbox One.
I wonder how much the increased accessibility of PC gaming is affecting Xbox. 10-15 years ago, there seemed to be much larger segment of gamers who were just afraid to touch PC gaming. As soon as you mentioned it, it was "well I don't want to worry about drivers and DirectX dll files, I don't understand all that, I just w...
Unfortunately players are at least partially to blame in this. In the 2000s (and yes before but I use the 2000s because that's when most people actually had a decent internet connection to be able to play online) people just played multiplayer modes because the game was fun. Then in the 2010s we allowed ourselves, largely through Call of Duty, to become addicted to the gateway drug of progression systems. We allowed ourselves to be convinced that it was actually a good thing when a game l...
The players killed them. We (not you or me necessarily, but gamers generally) won't play standard multiplayer games anymore. We say that we hate live service/GaaS, but as soon as a multiplayer game comes out and doesn't have updates every week, we start saying "where is the new content?" and "why would they release this game just to let it die?". Then everyone stops playing and goes back to their live service games.
Orchard?
In fairness, probably a number of people sent them something pretty similar to this (though my guess would be more people did the "a few dense planets instead of a ton of lifeless ones" idea).
The sad thing is this is going to be another "devs and publishers learn the wrong lesson" moment. What they should learn is that they should offer a physical version and release on Steam. What they probably will take away instead is that the interest for this type of game isn't really there and that they should focus more on multiplayer live service games.
And how much of that group would buy the PC version if it didn't require installing another launcher.
Yep there are plenty of games that succeed on Steam without ever getting a physical release. It's the fact that they didn't put out a physical version AND it isn't on steam. There's probably a not insignificant group of people who only/primarily buy physical games on console but also buy games on Steam.
@mandf
Totally true. With the success of the PS4 and PS5, it's difficult to convince younger players just how staunchly anti-PS3 most of the gaming media was, at least through about 2011. Except for Uncharted 2, very few PS3 games during that era got their due, particularly multiplayer games like MAG and Warhawk.