It seems M$ are doing all they can to lose any creditability they had left in gaming.
Totally agree if gamers put up with crap they shouldn't be surprised to be treated as such, M$ charging for online access is just more of the same until people demand better things will only get worse
PS4 the nextbox is not even a consideration while they continue to force subscription charges on me to use MY internet.
The Amiga was truly amazing in it's day and I traveled down to london to pick up an Amiga 500 when it was first launched along with a copy of marble madness, Defender of the crown and Deluxe paint brilliant days great memories.
I skipped the PS2 for the most part and did all my gaming on the PC and a great time I had too, what became annoying was the continual need to upgrade and having all manner of problems running games, so I bought a PS3 mainly for the blu-ray and got into gaming on it, no more hassle running games I knew whatever I bought for it would run as it was supposed to, PC,s can be powerful but also fustrating, I miss my PC gaming but not enough to go back.
soxfan2005
You're so afraid that the new Xbox might be as good (or better) than PS4
I certainly wouldn't be afraid of Microsoft releasing something as good or better but I would be surprised, but I wouldn't be suprised if the always online and stopping of game trading are part of their 720 plans.
When PS+ first arrived I was like meh and didn't bother with it then after reading a few comments and seeing more and more people using it I decided to give it a go and have never regretted it, the cloud storage and automatic updates are great but then you also have the games which have made it a very worthwhile purchase, no taking my internet away to force me into it just honest value for money.
You must have been watching a different conference than me allwrong I saw plenty,
So allwrong you would prefer to see the box rather than the specs?
WOW
Jazz with all respect as much as the first two are rumoured the fact microsoft take away your internet forcing you to pay to get it back there is no doubt microsoft would love to put the first two place, the only thing that may stop them is the outcry from xbox owners it's a shame the same outcry wasn't heard when they took away their internet if they had they would now have free internet like everyone else exactly how it should be.
Oh I have no doubt M$ have plenty of surprises coming like not allowing you to trade games, always online and probably an increased live subscription and still there will xbox zombies that would defend it.
Why?
any company prepared to hold your internet to ransom deserves no ones trust.
Some people are non too bright lol.
Xbox owners are waking up to the no online till you pay scam that M$ force on them, If they all said no more crap and demand free online M$ would have to give them their online back.
certainly for more than a weekend lol
fatstar
you couldn't be more wrong, there is no one more critical of the M$ business model than me it is a huge con, they take away YOUR internet and force you to pay to get it back, that is completely different from the Sony business model, they have taken nothing away you still have YOUR internet access and are free to play online browse the net watch Netflix etc, instead they actually offer you something worth paying for and the value of PS+ is there for all to see but...
Yeahokchief
It was already stated in the Sony presentation that it can be as private or open as you choose it to be not just overall but on an individual basis so nothing to worry about .
Sony really do seem to have taken the social side of gaming to a new level with the PS4 .
why rebuy PS3 games for PS4? your Ps3 will still work just fine once the PS4 is released you know.
to be frank if thats the biggest fault you can find with the PS4 it really shows what a good job Sony are doing.
Free online should be a minimum requirement for everyone.
Loved the first motorstorm had a great time racing the grizzly, got the other two but never got into them like the original.
It amazes me how people will defend the crap M$ is bringing into gaming,
these people defend it instead of telling M$ to do one when they charge you to use your internet, they force you to buy overpriced hardware, hard drives etc, they churn out the same few games and leave 3rd parties to pick up the slack.
the rumours for their new machine are not good and if the always online and not being able to trade games are true people will still defend them, wake up ...