This isn't about Anonymous.
- Yes it is. They are to blame for the attacks.
It's about lax security and outdated software on some of SONYs servers that could of been exploited by anyone.
- Obviously good enough to not be breached in 4 years. It's very easy with hindsight to see exactly what the problem was, and how "anyone" could exploit it. It's not so easy when you're just running a network that could be attacked from any angle.
"The Anonymous that's attacking Sony isn't the [same] one which which has done actual social and consumer good in the past"
Yes, it is. It's the same social force. Best would be if there were no groups of this kind.
Think of it this way. If Anonymous didn't exist, but the people who did this attack DID, would it have gone ahead? Obviously not! Anonymous' name and reputation gave them publicity to recruit people and a common goal....
@Munky
You are parroting an article that claimed Sony knew there was a known vulnerability.
They didn't.
What Sony ACTUALLY said was that the vulnerability was known "to the world" - i.e. it was not a zero-day exploit - but that they themselves were not aware of it, or that it might be an issue. Now it might be fair to call Sony ignorant for not being aware of this, however there are SO MANY exploits that are "known to the ...
FishCake,
The move to the new building (with presumably new equipment too) was already underway before this breach. So I think they were taking at least some measures. But I don't think it's reasonable to expect them to have tightened up security so quickly. Doing it now that the network is down and they have all hands on deck has taken over 2 weeks.
We got a live one here, folks.
Get 'im.
Argh KOTAKU!!! Why can't I read your articles? I just get redirected to the main page.
But the point is that anybody claiming to be Anonymous IS Anonymous, since the group has no leadership structure or official way to join.
Just as any terrorist sleeper cell can call themselves Al Qaeda and that's what they are.
This should hopefully give some bad rap to Anonymous who are now exposed as the lying, uncaring, hacker-sympathising terrorists that they are.
Yes of course it was. A "rogue" calling himself Anonymous IS Anonymous. Anyone who also considers themselves a member of Anonymous should be ashamed for being affiliated with a terrorist organisation which makes threats against and demands of corporations, potentially steals credit card details from millions of innocent people and disrupts a leisure activity for 77 million people for 2 weeks. Among other crimes, I might add.
Why does it fail? It's reporting a scam. Sony themselves have warned about this. You have to be careful.
Unlikely and it doesn't matter anyway. Anon are to blame for this, whichever way you cut it. Personally I think it's basically confirmed that someone representing Anon did the hack.
Read my comment again.
They deny involvement.
That's obviously false.
It's false that they weren't involved.
They were involved.
Yeah but Anonymous themselves denied involvement. That's obviously false.
Anon said it wasn't them, but you must realise, this is ONE member of Anon saying one thing. How can he possibly know what other members of the group are up to?
"Oh and to all people saying Anon suck, go research what they did before Psn" - numerous invasions of privacy, attacks against people just for bad-mouthing Anonymous (free speech?) and all this "for the lulz". Yes they did expose Scientology, yes they did expose the Westboro Baptist Church, but...
On the other hand this may severely limit the number of players online. People buy second-hand games and sell games they've bought because they don't have enough money to pay for the full game, or a new game they want. Now they'll just have to save up and they'll probably end up skipping some of EA's games if they know they can't afford to play online.
Why do no links to kotaku articles work for me? It always takes me to the home page.
And what is this?
"with the belief they are helping the hackers and the community, they're not."
Absolutely right. Not just Sony - EVERY games company is going to be looking at this and tightening up security rather than bringing us new games and features. They'll persue hackers even more agressively than before.
It doesn't matter whether Anon are behind this or not - their reputation has been destroyed, and hackers and gamers are going to have a tough ti...
"information has been stolen"
"allowing personal information including credit card details to be taken from millions of accounts"
Where are they getting their info?
At the press conference Sony said there was no evidence of any credit card data having been stolen.
"Sony said that although credit card data was encrypted and there was no evidence it was stolen, the theft of the data could not be ruled out."...
So "biggest fail" =
- Hack that was out of Sony's control
- Sony were already in the process of moving their servers to a more secure location
- Sony shut down PSN to prevent data being stolen
- No evidence of ANY data being stolen
- Credit card data was encrypted and no security codes were stored
- Sony boost their online security to a level that it would have never otherwise reached
- Sony gives us a free game and free PS...
The example I gave was to illustrate the absurdity of the argument.
If you still want to go and say, "I should be able to build a windmill on my property if I want," then you've completely ignored the rights of those living around you. Laws exist to tell you what you can and can't do - this is society 101 and it pains me to see that so many people don't get it.
Ultimate freedom is anarchy and so there need to be laws and justice for a ci...