Yeah, I get that aspect of it, but GP is hardly the only revenue stream, game development is being offset by many other revenues lanes...they don't only make money from GP.
See my above post to the butt guy
Also, raising prices is not an indication of a failing service or product...Sony raised PS+ price and they have tons of systems and subs...Sony raised the price of the base PS5 even tho they are selling like hotcakes, Sony raised the price of their...
Lol, relax a bit man.
So if they pull in 3 billion from GP alone, and spend 1 billion for 3rd party games that is counted towards the service itself.
Now moving onto
"Never mind the cost of running the service I.e salaries, server maintenance, etc. game pass also has to fund at least a significant portion of the full dev cycle for ALL Microsoft first party games, all salaries of studios, rent, etc"
You certainly like ...
But wasn't it reported that GP makes 3 billion annually? I would suspect that it's making a little bit more now with the price hike, and even a few more adopters.
So the make 3bill and spend 1bill on content...sounds like profit to me.
D4 Amazing!!
Wow, that is a significant difference!
Yeah, even tho the system is selling well, Sony seems outta sorts from there usual 1st party big games. We know Jim lead them down a path that they have to dig themselves out of, but man they have been overall dull IMO this past year.
My hope is that they plan to blow everything out at there next showcase, which seems like we have been playing the waiting game for a very long time... surely Wolverine is ready to show off.
Raven,
I'm always level-headed :).
Despite what is perceived, I have bought every single PS console since PS1, I remember living in NYC and going downtown to the Sony building just to play the display/kiosk, I was blown away, me and my brothers saved up and bought one shortly after.
I'm a gamer first(and like Nintendo the most) and you will be hard-pressed to find any post where I aimlessly diss Sony, I do defend Xbox, but it...
That is actually really, really good, especially for a console.
If I'm impressed by the games at the next showcase I will get one.
Fox,
Good point...instead of primary attention, they only get a fraction because so much other negative news.
The just couldn't let Sony take all the negative feedback for the last week or so huh..lol.
But I suspect we will hear more layoff from more companies pretty soon...
Wtf, so the messaging was terrible, it's the okie doke.
The more info that comes out about this system the worse it gets.
They need to hurry up and show some real games running on this thing, nothing short of a impressive display of games running with all bells and whistles will redeemed this terrible press and showing.
Any PS5 enhanced?
I kid, I kid....but not a great month.
All true, except MS didn't give up on releasing games, they gave up on selling Hardware....they have released and have plenty of upcoming games
What new titles?
You will be 1/2 disappointed, no way this is gonna run Unreal Engine 5 games with 4k, 60 with RTX, and all that jazz. Old games, indie games, and maybe most Sony first-party games I can see, but AAA 3rd party games will still be a toss-up, cerney even said as much, that different engines will produce different results.
You keep making these stupid price comparisons.
The TurboGrafx 16 failed, and so did the neo-geo, and the Jaguar... part of the reason was that they were all overpriced.
By the way, I loved my TurboGrax 16, it was the first time I saw opening anime cinematics on a console, it was Ys.
They didn't rip it apart tho, they said what we all saw, no giant difference in the old games they showed off.
Honestly, the Pro will be a great machine for upcoming games.
Sony just dropped the ball with a 9 min(wtf) video that showed nothing substantial except for the big price tag, Everything else we already knew it would do, higher res, higher fps, RTX, and PSSR, it was just presented very poorly, and no new games to show it off in it's true g...
But that is a bit misleading ain't it.
The SX has 52 CUs and a better GPU that the base PS5, so that 45% is only based on the base PS5 and not really the SX, so it's not 45% stronger than the SX is it...and the SX also has 2TB, and Disc versions, with options for 1TB, 2 TB storage, so they are equal. All versions of SX already has Machine learning and VRR and FSR...so why are you guys touting PSSRR, when it hasn't even truly proven to be such game changer.
They removed it, and charged you more for it separately...wtf.
Don't worry, you get to pay $80 for something you had on our original system.
I don't mind all digital but this situation is not a flex.
I partly agree, but.....
"They are hoping that subscribers increase to make up for that loss in sales."
Absolutely they would like an increase in GP sub, but the offset of dev cost for GP day one 1st party games is selling them on PC, and now on PlayStation, Nintendo.and anything with a screen..so they have effectively opened up a stream of revenue that makes sense all around and was not there before Nintendo and Sony (new stream).
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