PS2 sold 20+ million for three straight years, starting in year 3. Sony is forecasting 16.5 million PS4's for year three. Somewhere between PS3 and PS1 numbers seems to be most likely in the end.
PS2 was one of a kind. No console will ever do what it did.
"You can't always rely on these games all the time & be successful all the time."
So what makes you think the COD deal will do anything for Sony? Isn't COD the textbook definition of a big yearly game? You can't fault MS for bringing out Halo, Gears & Forza every year, then claim COD is somehow exempt from your categorization. Isn't it fair to say that Sony expecting the same from COD that MS is expecting from it's yearly titles?
@Genuine
"Next year, the gap will either stay the same or grow ever larger in Sony's favour."
All MS needs to do is keep pace. They can forget the first year disasters and move forward from here. Fortunately for MS, they're not just sitting back and resting on this year's games. They have a number of potential AAA games already in the works for next year and beyond.
MS simply needs to prove it can keep pace with Sony,...
Fair points, but the "system seller" will be the combination of those three big titles that are available only on Xbox One this year.
By the time Tomb Raider releases, people will look at Xbox One vs. PS4 and see three big games they can't play on PS4.
Of course, much will depend on the quality of those games. If Forza & Halo review well (and history suggests they will), a high quality Tomb Raider game will be icing on the cake.
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@Heavy
10 million is big now, but if MS just keeps pace, it gets considerably less significant.
In 3 or 4 years, if PS4 is at 70 million and Xbox One is at 58 or 60 million, the 10-12 million gap doesn't look as big as it does now.
I'll concede however, that MS still has to prove it can keep pace - something it hasn't done yet.
It means nothing yet for Xbox One because MS's big hitters have yet to arrive. The big question will be how much (if any) of the gap will close after Halo, Forza & Tomb Raider release this year (along with whatever bundles go along with them).
If Xbox One is still losing ground come January, after their big games come out, then they need to worry. But the gap right now is BARELY 2:1 (25.3 - 13), and that's AFTER Sony's big Batman deal, and BEFORE Halo 5.
So, the person who posted this yesterday is now trying to take the high road:
"@ flex bloodborne is the highest rated exclusive this year nice try though. PlayStation has a 10 million lead and growing for a reason and there is literally nothing you nor Microsoft can do about it. O yah and ps3 sold more than 360 despite releasing a year later. Check your facts next time before you look stupid. But enjoy your inferior console all you want just dont expect smarter well info...
Well, they won't look as foolish as people like you spinning your opinion that TR will "sell horribly". Face it, you're just a bitter hater. Funny how a game that will supposedly sell horribly is the one that you can't seem to stop talking about. So much wishful thinking.
I'd tell you to work on something new, but people like you who hope a game fails for no reason other than it's not on your system of choice are beyond hope. You're the w...
@ Ezz
"do you think any one will bother with that game when Fallout 4 coming out at the same time ?!"
Yeah, you're right. Apparently TR will be a game that nobody bothers with despite the FACT that people just can't stop talking about it. LOL
Of course Fallout 4 will have more Youtube views. It's coming to THREE platforms on day one.
"at a time where the opponent is at its weak point in terms of comparible contents and games, can cause some massive damage in sales. Well played by MS."
That's 100% right. So many haters around here want to believe that TR will get lost because of the other high profile titles releasing around the same time. Well, if a game like TR gets overshadowed, how will any of Sony's lesser known exclusives fare? TR is still much bigger than any game coming to the ...
@EDMIX
Well, the Xbox One is the ONLY system that can play EVERY one of those games you mention.
I know you're pushing hard on your opinion (or more likely your wishful thinking) that TR won't help the Xbox One, but it's pretty obvious that TR will be a big piece in the overall Xbox One push in the 4th quarter.
Besides, the 500+ comments in TR threads today alone proves how big TR really is. Show me some articles on any of those o...
"They release it on the same day as Fallout 4"
So what? There are two Tomb Raider threads today - one has nearly 400 comments in 8 hours, and the other has 100+ comments. People (and clearly LOTS of people) are excited for Tomb Raider.
TR will do just fine regardless of the competition. The whole "it's going to get crushed by Fallout 4" thing is just rhetoric for certain people who WANT to see TR fail because they hate MS (I'm no...
@Ezz
What makes you think Fallout 4 will crush Tomb Raider? Wishful thinking doesn't qualify as an informed comment. You just WANT it to get crushed by Fallout 4 because you're an Xbox hater.
Go ahead and show me a Fallout 4 thread that has 350+ comments in 8 hours like this one. Still think nobody's interested in Tomb Raider? There's actually another Tomb Raider thread today with 100+ comments.
"One version comes o...
Xbox One went from $499 to $349 because they unbundled a $150 accessory (Kinect). Do the math.
I played the F355 arcade game once. It's a pretty amazing simulation, especially since simulators generally don't make good arcade games.
The only arcade that I ever saw it in was in Disney World in Florida, around 2000. There was a huge arcade right next to Space Mountain, and it was filled with Sega games (they must have sponsored it).
I'll just respond with your original response to Rookie_monster:
"You know people don't care what you think. Your opinion is irrelevant."
Well, so is your opinion that EVERY upcoming Xbox Exclusive is "meh". If you're not interested in any of those games, then you are 100% irrelevant to this discussion.
"no reason for me to buy an Xbox since all there games are coming to PC"
What a ridiculous comment. "All" of their games? Really?
You won't get Forza, Halo 5 or Sunset Overdrive on your PC, and probably not Recore, Quantum Break or Scalebound either. If you think Killer Instinct and Gears remake constitute the pinnacle of Xbox gaming, and you like to shout about how happy you are because you can play those two games on your PC, then...
If a huge title like Tomb Raider can be forgotten because it's releasing in the same timeframe as COD & Fallout 4, I can only imagine how overshadowed and forgotten the 4th quarter PS4 exclusives will be, considering none of them are as well known as TR.
So, a FREE feature which gives players more CHOICES is now a BAD thing?
Too much variety, I guess.
"And if PS4 is so close to PS2 sales before a price cut, why would it level off so much to be comparable to PS3 sales?"
Only Sony can answer that, but considering Sony forecast 16.5 million PS4's over the next year, anything close to PS2 numbers is a stretch. PS3's top year was around 15 million, and PS1's was 20 million. So, somewhere between PS1 and PS3 seems pretty reasonable.