Let's count the features shall we:
Nvidia:
Natively execute C/C++/FORTRAN code
CUDA - (These first two things require more complex/larger cores.)
PhysX
3D Vision
WHQL Certified fully functioning OpenCL
ATI:
Eyefinity - (This only requires a small addition beside the ROP's.)
OpenCL
And that's not counting all the programmer/developer side of things that Nvidia has implemented in their architecture.
You don't seem to be understand the context of their statements. They are not saying that DX11 doesn't matter. They are merely saying there is no rush AT THE MOMENT. This isn't an opinion, it's a damn fact of the industry. And yes of course they are trying to ease the minds of investors also. One has to do that to help bring good success.
And sure nobody knows how fast for sure, but you can make rough guesses based on the hardware white-paper that was released. Since Fermi will h...
Actually that's not why they run cooler. They run cooler because they have a smaller die size and memory bus in comparison to similar powered Nvidia cards. Because Nvidia's cores are designed with CUDA/GPGPU in mind, they take up a lot more space. And thus more heat is created and a bigger card..
Also, Nvidia's drivers are known for being much more reliable/stable than ATI's. Mainly due to Nvidia's much larger driver design team since they can afford it.
They're hardly talking crap lol. They are stating the reality of the situation. There is no rush to get DX11 cards out yet.
And Nvidia has DX11 capable cards ready. It's just that TSMC has been having very sh*tty 40nm yields, and Nvidia had to push for another chip revision to increase yields. Delaying the release of their DX11 cards until January.
So their DX11 cards are coming out very soon, way before ATI will have a die shrink out. Nvidia is only being 2-3 months...
Would have been great if it weren't for the fact it only has rum, coke, water.
Oh, and I don't know what reviews you've been reading, but the 5870 doesn't beat a GTX 295. It's beats the single GPU GTX 285's sometimes, but not always.
And this is against Nvidia's now old generation compared to ATI's new 5000 series generation. Come Jan/Feb Nvidia will be taking the performance crown back.
@zag: The ATI 5000 series is not a new architecture haha. It's basically two 4000 series chips merged together. ATI has stated that their new architecture is coming in 2011. The 5000 series is not a new architecture. Learn more about the subject your talking about before spouting claims like that. Every new generation of cards is not a new architecture. ATI's last new architecture was the HD 2000 series. And Nvidia's was the 8000 series.
And the ASUS Mars doesn't have two GTX295...
Care to elaborate CrippleH?
Try reading the last line:
"in the broader picture".
Nvidia is bringing out a whole new architecture this time, and quite an advanced one at that. Whereas ATI is still using the same arch it's been using since the 2000 series. So obviously Nvidia is going to be a bit late this time. And ATI's new architecture isn't coming out until late 2011.
In the grand scheme of things DX11, it's all good. There aren't enough DX11 games out yet for it to matter...
Oh yeah.. Cause a whole new architecture is made without funding right?
Nvidia spends way more on just their architecture/card development than AMD spends on everything they develop combined.
Either that, or your GPU is overheating. Download/Pirate a version of "EVEREST Ultimate Edition" and watch your Temperatures.
Yeah, get some of that 22nm love up in heeya! haha
It's not that closed case.
What Nvidia has done is create a GPU architecture that is capable of running C/C++/FORTRAN code natively. (currently with CUDA extensions until Fermi comes). They can't just make CUDA not proprietary, it wouldn't matter. ATI would still need to completely redesign their architecture to work like Nvidia's. And Nvidia would need to share a lot of it's intellectual property with them.
CUDA is more an architecture than it is software.
Yeah, if anything Fudzilla has been pro Nvidia for quite some time now. It's only recently that they seem to have started changing bias.
It shouldn't be much of a surprised considering the large success of F2P MMO's that are mainly based around people buying fashion items and helpful items.
Users feel it's a sign of wealth and superiority in a game to own items that cost real money.
This isn't the fabled GT300 series.. It's just a mrketting ploy for crappy OEM computers. The GTX 260/380 are still on track to come out by January.
Well you must not get around the internet much then! Cause it's full of nerdy 14 year old's learning how to do different kinds of programming and hacking.
It's not really as amazing as it seems. Open source code for Linux/Unix based N64 emulators is publicly available. The iPhone uses a Unix based OS similar to Mac's OS X. It just takes a person with some knowledge of porting Linux/Unix apps to the iPhone to get it done. Not much harder than it was to port to a Mac.
It's hardly smoke and mirrors. They have just never cared much about the graphics segment of their business. It's only now that Nvidia is treading on their territory with mobile and general/professional computing that they are taking serious action. They see where Nvidia is heading with their chips. If Intel just stood by and did nothing, Nvidia would over take them.
So Intel has in the past few years hired many people who are experienced in GPU designing and coding to help build...
Yeah, hopefully this goes through. It will be good not just for Nvidia, but the whole industry. Sad that it's going to take so many months just to make it to court though.