@kevnb
Except MS will get nothing for PC game liscense fee. Unless people buy games from window store which is literally negligible.
So it is massive loss in liscense fee.
Except it is MS who just waived whiteflag on console industry. it just gave up on it and going route of Steambox. We all know how well steam box turned out.
@darthv72
Lol. Wow wealth of BS knowledge you got there. All backed up by pure desperation.
-MS get no cut for DX12
-MS wont get ANY cut from EA or Ubisoft games as those games get sold on their own stores on PC.So No madden, no Assasin Creed, No Mass effect fee. EVER
-Window store dont even have ok game library and peanut compared to Steam.
-DX12 is not even exclusive to window stores. lolol.
@Darthv72
Except Darth, if MS drives gamers to PC, they gain no fee from licensing on Windows.
You do realize softwares and games sold for Windows gives zero money to MS.
LOL. That kills your whole argument...
@MCTJim
Except if that was true, you wouldnt have to upgrade PC.
LOl. I love people damage control this as if this is some new magical thing.
No, PC had this "feature" from the beginning. Upgradeable configuration means less optimization. That means less cost efficiency.
It will be better buying PC instead
Whole point of console is efficiency from fixed hardware. If that is gone, why bother buying Xbox? Just buy PC, you will get cheaper PC that performs better. not to mention cheaper games.
@Scatpants
LOL. Really? Look at current PC games having low efficiency.
Amount of damage control is amazing.
1. No buying Xbox wont be cheaper than PC. you can get better PC for same cost.
2. Whole point of Console was locking hardware to get better efficiency. Now that is gone. You are literally better of playing PC.
MS isnt killing consoles. They are just killing Xbox.
@ChrisW
1. By that logic, MS should release the game to PS4.
2. Because MS get cut of all games on Xbox. Now with this, less people will buy Xbox and get PC instead. games on PC pay nothing to MS. so actually loss in software revenue.
@MoldyBread
People who just want to play multiplat already do.
But exclusive is a huge pull. After QB, Forza and GeoW, Xbox has almost none.
@4show
That is down right cringe worthy. Knowing just what to build? heavy discount?
Lol. dude clearly you know nothing of building PC.
You do realize that once MS makes Xbox non fixed hardware, it is going to get worse. Xbox will lose its cost efficiency from having fixed hardware.
Meaning PC will beat cost AND performance.
"X1 to play well....ding, ding, ding, yep you guess it Xbox games of course.&qu...
Wow level of damage control is insane.
For those who said you wont get same performance at same cost, lol you do know that $500 PC will easily outperform X1. AND you get a PC out of it.
That is with X1 having fixed spec which gives them better cost efficiency and optimization. If X1 moves away from fixed spec, then you just lost your cost efficiency.
Meaning in future, PC will not just match, but beat its cost AND performance.
@4Sh0w
You dont need high end PC to out perform.
$500 PC beats Xbox One in performance and graphics and you can do so much more than just game.
PC gaming market is ~120 million units. Last 2 year sales of discrete GPU from Nvidia was over 100 million units.
Meaning PC market is huge and many gamers already have capable PC. So why would they buy Xbox? They can play all those favorite games.
If they want "...
@n4rc
Except they sell PC already assembled and changing gpu out is 10 min activity tops.
So why would you choose xbox over pc?
If you want pc benefit, getting pc is solution
Lol. why not buy PC?
I love how xbox fanboys always said they never wanted PC because they like locked in hardware with closed loop. Or that it is more efficient due to fixed spec.
Now that Xbox gets PC benefits that x1 fans claimed to hate, it is best thing ever?
If you like PC feature so much, why not get PC?lol
@MachuchalBrotha316
Actually, I got PC for just that.
You guys hated PC for this and that, but now X1 get some of PC benefit, you think it is best thing ever.
Fact is, you dont need Xbox if you get PC now. With this, Xbox offers NO benefit since all it is just steambox.
@Pog
nothing was copy and pasted...Except what you just said..
Still waiting answers on Cloud btw. Oh wait. Nvm, all you kn...
I love how the tunes Xbox fans just changed. I thought that X1 was "better" than PC because:
With Xbox One
-You dont have to upgrade like ever few years.
-It has exclusives
-It is cost efficient because hardware is locked in and devs can optimize one spec.
-Not like PC.
Lol. With this announcement, none of that will be true anymore.
It is a PC Steambox for MS. Now everything sucked about PC is good thing...
@Commentator
Thanks for confirming what I said by trying desperately to dodge it.
"Win 10 is an ecosystem which includes the XB1,"
Lol. That comment above makes no difference to what you said below.
Fact is you think "more software sales means more profit" for MS in Windows 10. Except MS dont get a cut of Windows 10 softwares. LOLOL
"•MS sells their 1st party games on PC and they get a profit...
@TheCommentator
Your whole argument is based on
"XB1 is one platform that Win 10's ecosystem supports and more software sales means more profit that can be fed into making more games with better quality"
Except like I told you, you get do not get cut from Window 10 software sales. You get QB sales because MS published it, not because gamer bought it and play on WIn 10.
It is desperate and naive argument.
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@TheCommentator
Except commentator, everything I said holds true.
You do realize MS STILL dont get cut of software sales for Win10 software.
LOL. Ofc MS profits from QB sales. They published it.MS wont get a penny from COD, Assassin Creed, Far Cry, Madden if those sales are made in Window 10, Steam or something.
Because they do not own the whole ecosystem.Now more gamers will buy PC. There are even less reason to own X1.
@TheCommentator
Sorry to break your bubble, but no. LOL. MS do not own PC ecosystem. I dont know if you are naive or just desperate.
PC software sales dont mean more profit for MS. You do realize that MS gets no share of PC software sales?
Gamers will buy games where ever cheapest. They will buy Forza, Geow, Fable, QB at Windows store. Not buy Xbox because they dont need to.
This is win for PC gamers. Loss for Xbox gamers. <...
Wait... Did you just amazon "Xbox One" as your source? LOL what does that prove? That must be the most desperate defense i have ever seen.
Fact is MS is turning Xbox into sub PC Steambox, so it can support windows 10.
It will offer no benefit over PC.
"But in some ways, this move is less about overall market success and more about figuring out how to position Xbox as an important pillar of strength for Windows 10 ."