Obviously some troll has never seen battlefield in its fullest glory.
Here we go again. The magical 4k that will somehow magically run at 60fps on peoples 1080p TVs.
Video playback 4k @ 30 - probably
Iphone style download games - probably
UPSCALED 4k - possibly
Native 4k - Not a snowflakes hope in hell
If they can get ALL games 1080p at 60 fps I'd call it a good day.
680MX is a beast! I got the 7970M which is pretty beasty too
Lior..Immature much?
@ NeverEnding - "Multiplayer gamers dont have a choice" Heard of Steam or PS3?
If your happy paying for online play...thats fine, maybe I should make some extra money off you too and buy some MS shares.
Try and respect and educate yourself to the fact people have been gaming online for free, years before the xbox existed.
lol so true about dubstep
your comment reminded me of Forza Horizon, what a fail to my favorite franchise.
I'll be surprised if BF4 even makes it to the current consoles. I've heard its being build in a new engine with next gen in mind.
I highly doubt it's anywhere close to finished.
It likely to be a pre-alpha build, considering this is the first we have seen or heard about it.
@ kneon. HDMI 1.5 may very well be getting released soon, but it doesn't change the fact that 99% of HDTV's HDMI ports are still infact bandwidth limited.
A HDTV display can still only receive a input of 1080p @ 60 fps or a 3D input of 1080p at 24 fps.
HDTV's having an 200Htz + refresh rate is a totally different thing, that internal processing. They still can't receive the higher bandwidth
You guys thinking 4k @ 60 fps is going to happen on the consoles keep buying into false hope.
You obviously don't realize HDMI cables and ports are bandwidth limited at this point in time.
If a PC has the grunt, they have the option to push that res and framerate because monitors can use the higher bandwidth m-DVI and dual m-DVI. This doesn't happen on TV's. The 4K TV's still only support sub 30 fps,
Honestly, Sorry to poo poo on your dreams but you sho...
Looks fun. Yeah, its hardly a leak though.
Cant wait to see some guy get blown off his bike by a tank or rpg
Sorry to be that guy but:
You asked "1080p 3d runs on 60fps
why is that hard to understand?"
because you dont understand something...read on
HDMI 1.4a which is on 99% of TV's has a limited bandwidth.
A HDMI port doesn't have bandwidth to do 1080p3D @ 60fps.
It can do 720p 3D @ 60 fps or 1080p3D @ 24 fps max.
You need Dual Mini Display Port out+in to get 1080p3D @ 60fps which TV's don't...
Spot on. The wattage cap is something people should look at to get an idea of the upcoming specs.
Based on previous consoles, I'm thinking its going to be around 200watt with a 7xxx series mobility based GPU (if we're lucky), which is already around 100w on its own. If we are really lucky it will be based on a high end 8xxxM series but I'm having my doubts if we're looking at a $399 launch price.
While I agree that optimization plays a large factor, decent hardware is still needed.
Lets use you're engine metaphore. Optimization is more so about tuning. If you were to tune a 1950's engine today it would likely perform better. But if you were to use better hardware you'd see much bigger gains.
Agreed, I started playing Borderlands 2 on PC at 60+fps then moved over to Xbox to play with some friends. It literally gave me a headache.
If console games aren't going to aim for 60fps next gen ill be very disappointed.
The game runs like a bag of sh#t on all platforms. At least on PC, its not working right. Clearly you've taken my comment too literally.
Even on PC at 60+ fps it still has these stutters than annoy the hell out of me. The game is fundamentally broken an all platforms to people that care and notice these things.
I need the HDMI in for work. Sager are priced well but I prefer the quality of Alienware for a few good reasons.
It would be a great choice of card for a console. I know what you mean, they are savage. I've got two in a m18x r2.
1 card can do bf3 at 60fps in 1080p as you know! Imagine having that with all the optimizations that console games get.
lol. Because the TV guy said so.
Right now there are only 3 4k camera's in existence, and they are all owned by NHK Japan.