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"does the console have enough quality exclusives to keep the system ahead of the PS3 in 2009?"

Ahead in sales? they're not gonna be at 28 million any time soon at this rate, let alone ahead of what the 360 will be at at that stage. To think they'd be ahead anytime in 2009 would be madness. This is factual

Casual people aren't very likely to buy this. Obviously I was talking about people who WOULD buy it (pretty hardcore genre) and I'm sure most of them would be aware. If they aren't then they're not in the 'sensible' category that I stated.

Yeah about a year ago these graphics could only be done with the power of the ALMIGHTY CELL! But now that it's multiplatform people are like 'the graphics aren't great'
The graphics are sweet, what the hell are you on about?
And no the 360 version isn't gonna be nerfed. Unless for some reason the past trends are completely reversed, ie the past 3 years of 360 delivering MANY more better multiplats, this will be just as good on the 360. 'butbutbut...multiple discs!' Shame most se...

I thought the demo was immense. If you don't like the controls then gutted. Have you tried type c? That way you get controls similar to RE4 (which was also immense) but can strafe and use the camera too. U shouldn't be able to move while aiming, it just wouldn't really work properly with a laser sight. If you think this demo was disappointing you're far too demanding. What other demo's are better than this? I can't wait for the game, and this demo re-inforces how good it will be. If you can't...

"Which company currently has the most console units sold this gen. That would be sony."

Really? Is 20 million more than 28 or around 40 million? I'm pretty sure it isn't. So the most console units sold this gen would be Nintendo, then Microsoft and in last would be Sony in terms of console units sold this gen.

"They have 3 consoles on the market which sums up to be about 250million units sold."
Yeah, but I'm talking about this generatio...

Indeed. If being in 3rd place is better than Sony is indeed doing better than the competition. Wait for all the disagrees I get from fanboys who just can't accept that their console is 8 million deep in last place and rising.

Lol that's exactly what I was thinking. I thought Microsoft paid every single media outlet to say bad things about Sony according to many on this site? How could they have said Killzone 2 looks better?

Maybe Microsoft DON'T pay all these sites to say bad things. Maybe that's why none of us have any proof that they ever had! How dumb we all are for thinking such tripe!

Yeah they WOULD be. But Sony took ages coming to market, and lost a hell of a lot so don't try and make out that PS3 would be dominating otherwise. Fact is, PS3 came later, and is doing worse as a result

I doubt it's game over for Sony if that happens, but Killzone 2 should sell at least 2 mill in a short space of time otherwise it won't be looking too good.

But in terms of PS3 staying behind in 09, that's pretty much factual. Like people PS3 fanboys have said, the PS3 was outselling UNTIL the huge price cut. And since that price cut is permanent and there's no sign of one from Sony's end, the 360 is gonna be outselling the PS3 for quite some time. Considering as of right now, ...

"is a distant third" this generation "and is falling behind at a rapid pace".

Just wait until the fanboys arrive to try and spin this. 'No, the PS3 isn't in last, it sold more than the 360 in the same length of time.' Yeah that's all well and good, but the 360 came out earlier and is pulling ahead now...
The amount of people who think the PS3 is fine is crazy, they are like 8 million behind as of like a month ago lol, so they are in distant third. I ...

You're right but don't try telling these losers that.
Like Hirai, they think that you can lead something in last place. When PS3 outsells the Wii they'll be the leader, but they never ever will.
Newsflash - the PS3 is in LAST PLACE. It has sold the LEAST out of all the consoles. butbutbut, year 'headstart' butbutbut...no buts, it's in last place. Microsoft came to market earlier, it's not a headstart, it's PS3 taking too long to come out. butbutbut...selling well at price...sell...

I guarantee it won't smash any sales records unless it's best selling PS3 game, which doesn't really count. It's not gonna sell quicker than either Halo 3 or GTA4. To sell as many as Halo 3 half the people with PS3 would need to buy it. So forget 'don't be surprised'. More like I'd be actually amazed if it did. To be honest I'll be surprised if it outsells Gears 2

Yes you are deprived then lol. I was joking about you being imbred, it's odd that you've taken offense...hiding something? What do you mean wasn't a personal attack? Never said it was, just thought you must be imbred (joke) to think such a thing. I'm still confused as to how you've never seen people say 'teh' instead of 'the'. Have you ever seen the word pwn? Same principle. But either way, I can spell perfectly well thanks. Unlike some who think that you saying SPELT means that you should ne...

lol I was joking but it's funny that you thought it was necessary to call me a moron. It was never 'hip' (that word's archaic), I'm doing it in a joking way you absolute retard. Evidently you used to actually use it cos you thought it was cool. Jokes on you. Fact is I'm more educated than you'll ever be, by a mile no doubt.

Oh and for the two jokers above, Shikwan, you should stop ROFLing at SPELT and ROFL at your own stupidity (spelt is correct). And paraplegic, you probably ...

Didn't spell the wrong you imbred lol. U've never seen people write teh on the internet before? If not then you haven't lived my friend. It's called 1337speak, which I'm fluent in.

"Good position doesn't JUST mean sold the most consoles."
I know it doesn't, attach rate is also quite important, which Sony has the lowest. When people talk about a console war, they're not talking about people's opinions, they're talking about sales. And the PS3 is in third.
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They're in third place. Nintendo are in a great position, how are Sony in a great position in 3rd place? Obviously the PS3 is selling well and once a price drop occurs, I think they'll sell strongly but they're curently 8 million behind their next competitor and that's gonna grow probably until they cut the price. Hopefully they market Killzone 2 properly, cos that game should shift a lot of consoles if it's done justice.

I'm a bit gutted it'll take this long but nevermind. At least it won't be spoiled by PS3 fanboys on this site like they attempted with Gears 2. Hopefully it happens the other way round this time.

I'm glad that it's been delayed. Wouldn't want spoilers getting out because PS3 fanboys would inevitably do that, just like they tried for Gears. Instead, they'll come out at the same time so that won't happen. Thanks Microsoft for securing such a sweet game and preventing me needing to shell out on a PS3.

That's odd, doesn't that mean ur blaming something that didn't happen? If it did then u wanna show me how you know that? Seem more likely that since Square CLEARLY want to penetrate the Western market that 360 is the way to go, and since it's sold 28 million it makes a lot more sense than to just 19 million...but whatever.

I blame Microsoft. But since I don't have a PS3 and do have a 360 I'm glad, thanks Microsoft, another sweet franchise for moi to enjoy, and completely out of the blue. All Microsoft have done is bring this game to 28 million more people, if you can't accept that you don't deserve the luxury of gaming. Surely expanding the fanbase of a good franchise is a good thing? Just cos you've got to wait doesn't mean it's a bad thing. I'm glad it's coming out at the same time so the experience doesn't g...