As i said. NPD figures arent correct, not by a long shot, since they dont count digital sales and as ive said a couple of times now, the american amrket has never been the big PC market.
Oh and using YOUR figures add all console sales up and divide them with the numbers of consoles currently "active" and *GASP* WHAT!?!?! Pc gaming is as big as any other console? AMAGAD!
Bunching all consoles together is in no way a fair comparison...
And while the NPD number...
Seriously. Would you ALL please stop using NPD figures?
They are useless for the PC market since they dont count in digital sales!
@charmers: The 360 in japan analogy was superb, im going to steal that for future discussions :)
Some things i posted in another thread:
Sure in NA the retail sales arent so hot but in europe it usually stands for about 50% of all RETAIL game sales (thats more than all consoles combined for those of you with a mathproblem :P...
Man, youve missed the point again.
A, Consoles arent "killing" the pc market, as i said, outside NA the PC sales are bigger than any console. Please come back a few months after the release of SC 2 and lets compare South Korea sales to console games worldwide...
B, The articles point is that valve have the right forumula for the next decade, digital distribution thats way better than any other publisher, platforms doesnt really play into it(especially since...
Well...
First of all you got the meaning of the article all wrong. Valve is one of the few companies that earn sick amounts of money and have an incredible "value" to their name. EA on the other hand looses money and can make gamers spit at the mention of their name.
"ps3 and haven't released a single wii, psp, ds game."
I cant even begin to comment on how stupid this is. Why on Earth would valve develop a console game when they excell att creatin...
Blizzard havent merged with anything. they just "stole" the blizzard name since its a synonym for good quality games.
Blizzard is still ONLY blizzard, the publisher merged/changed name.
Yeah right... in the us the sales can be meh, but not world wide. I mean SC has sold 4.5-5 million copies in korea alone. And no, koreans wont buy PS3:s to play SC2, i cant see many of the sc/wc3 players moving to a console while theres a PC version out (that will be released months before any potential port).
And its goddamn akward to sit in a good position with a mouse and keyboard in a sofa.
RTS + competative FPS should always be played on pc.
Thats great. Valve is all fuzzy and cuddly.
Great post. Below is my reply to the last of these articles(the one about consoles stealing HC gamers)
PC COD 4 got a HUGE amount of players. Xbox 360 clans get laughed at in most communitys. Theyre playing, the pc clans are gaming. It all comes down to control, on a PC you can customize everything, graphics, sound, gamerules etc. ON a console you are locked to what the developer creates. The mod support has just started för the consoles and is nowhere near where the pc comm...
you of all people shouldnt be posting in the gamer zone...
@Boink
As i said, the north american market isnt the prime market for PCgames. Its much bigger in europe and i would really like you all to stop quoting the wildly inaccurate NPD numbers. Retail sales is being phased out. Digital distribution allows developers much more controll over their product and is quite widespread by now(steam, d2d etc), but the npd doesnt get any sales figures from those places.
"Almost anyone can pick up a controller and with a few tri...
PC COD 4 got a HUGE amount of players. Xbox 360 clans get laughed at in most communitys. Theyre playing, the pc clans are gaming. It all comes down to control, on a PC you can customize everything, graphics, sound, gamerules etc. ON a console you are locked to what the developer creates. The mod support has just started för the consoles and is nowhere near where the pc community was ten years ago.
Take the PAM 4.0 mod for example (Clanbase approved clanwar mod) Getting that to xbox...
... is bigger than the PC. But in all these "comparisons" all gaming consoles are bunched together against the pc...
PC is the biggest gaming platform, and here in europe the PC sales stand for about 50% or more of ALL GAME SALES(2006/2007 pc games stood for more than half of all sales in sweden for example).
The NPDs figures are based on an outdated measurement method. How many bought the oragne box in retail vs steam? im guessing steam had far more sales.
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Blizzard havent "merged" with anything. Its their publisher that took the name Blizzard as a pure publicity stunt.
Blizzard is still blizzard and they have enough power to decide where their games are going.
Sounds like a bastardization of the great battlefield series.
Microtransactions for items that affect gameplay is truly awful in skillbased games. I probably wont touch this and wait for BF3 with some BF:BC inbetween
@ gorgon
Dont put words in my mouth. I said more PC games are sold than any other plattform. I gave some points on why the PC games will continue to live etc. I Never said that "mods, bleeding edge graphics and mouse&keyboards"
Even though they do. All my friends that have a 360/ps3 +a computer bought Cod 4 PC for the controls and better servers, even if they have quite old computers. Im sure Crysis have pushed more copies from the hyped up graphics than ac...
Im getting tired of these asshats.
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Pcgaming is way bigger than any other plattform in terms of sales. In Several countries PC gaming is bigger than ALL OTHER PLATTFORMS COMBINED (Sweden for example). And this is without counting downloading services as Direct2drive, steam etc.
2:
As many of you have pointed out, Halflife 2 is a 4 year old game, Episode two doesnt push PC hardware the slightest making his whole argument retarded.
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Designing some maps that actually works with more than 16 players?
Try a 32p or even a 24-20p game on the pc now. Its a grenade spam fest. Tactics? Dont bother. Theres an enemy around every corner, run in shoot, kill 3 of them die, repeat.
The game works really good at 16 p but IWs lazyness destroys the fun at more than 16p
Since focus is on graphics, textures etc, PC is the only viable choice. Developing it for at plattforms at once will only hurt the final product since the PC will be quite far ahead of current gen consoles in 2009/2010 wen were likely to see this game...
Your loss if you choose to boycot :P
Wants to sit in a sofa infront of a tv with a m&k? My back would hurt like hell. Seriously Play this on a pc. My guess is that its slowed down for console players. Since there isnt 100% m&k coverage it will be built around the controller with an option to use m&k = gameplay compromises. I hope PC is the plattform its developed for...