PrimeGrime

What does cross buy have to do with Remote Play? I mean I get what you are saying to an extent but why even bring up Remote Play?

It is a completely separate feature from Cross-Buy. Seems you are confusing many people by saying that and they seem to still think that PS4 can only work on local Wi-Fi which isn't true.

@PurpHerbison

I brought it up because many of you are making it seem like PS+ is absolutely needed like Xbox Live.

Whatever you like more I really don't care but when you make PS+ seem like Xbox Live. Yes I am going to be bring up the fact it isn't exactly like Xbox Live.

Is it similar now, sure, is it the same? No.

@jcnba28

Don't be sending me stupid ass PM's. I said here in my area they no ...

You talk to me like I am not one of those 3 million people who purchased one. Don't blame me for Nintendo's poor decisions.

You can blame Europe for that.

Only $50 dollars more here since they don't sell any 8GB Wii U's at any of my local games stores anymore. The only one they have is the $349 model now.

So yea here it is very close to the Wii U's price tag. Considering the massive hardware differences it really shouldn't even be so close.

You mean PS4 + PS plus? You don't need PS+ to use anything on PSN. You can use quite a bit without PS+ at all and even play some games unlike Xbox Live.

You also know they practically discontinued the $299 8gb Wii U model right. They only sell the $349 models now new here for me. So again no the Wii U now, is $349 new.

The PS4 is $399.

PS+ is optional and yes most people will buy it for multiplayer, since they won't probably want to p...

I am not even being blind or bias but with how poorly the Wii U is selling it is very likely that those pre-orders actually just might.

Sometimes I feel like I am the only one who watched the PS4 conference and actually listened.

Do you all not remember Mark Cerny himself covering everything about the PS4 and 4K? Well if you don't that is your fault, not wasting my time to recite it back to you.

Maybe you should watch it again and actually listen this time. What is upsetting is gaming journalist are still that off when this type of stuff was all covered at the first PS4's reveal. Even...

Why are Xbox fans seriously still going on about the cloud? It is extremely pathetic already.

PS4 has cloud tech too you know. Shuhei even responded to you Xbox fans asking if the PS4 could in fact offload in the same manner to increase overall power. His answer was yes, yes it can with Gaikai the same exact way. So will you guys shut up about the Xbox Ones cloud or cloud tech in general.

Both systems have it. Only difference is one company is banking on tha...

@Concertoine

Sorry meant to put 1080p/60fps on that part. I couldn't go back and edit cause my editing time had ran out but I was going to edit that part at the bottom there.

You are right though, so sorry for the confusion.

To be fair the Wii U obviously has a newer video card. So why even compare its full HD games to older games on PS3 and Xbox 360? There is a reason most games ran at 720p simply because the graphics chips weren't as good as they are now. Most those games were still more graphically demanding as to why they probably did also.

Before people think I am downplaying the Wii U please read all of my comment first.

My thing is why keep comparing it to such old con...

No idea why everyone disagrees with you, advertising never hurt anyone. Well unless it is bad advertising but that is pretty hard to do nowadays.

People will eat up anything it seems these days.

Yea and that is only a few really I could have listed more games. There a bunch more games in all those genres actually.

I just tried to keep it to the bigger named titles or games that could be considered AAA.

The only genre the Vita is lacking in is FPS. With how good Killzone: Mercenary is turning out I can't complain, like I always say I would rather have one very good game instead of a bunch of mediocre ones just to fill a gap.

Actually I initially intended on mentioning those games like that along with P4G and games like Zero Escape but I know how people are.

They will just scream out that I listed a bunch of niche Japanese titles. I tried to stick to more known titles since everyone says it has no AAA games or games from AAA developers.

I almost didn't want to put Soul Sacrifice either.

Looks great. Can't wait to pick this up. As far as MMO type games are going X and Destiny are looking to be my favorites so far.

*face palm*

I would rather not have a port of Journey on the Vita if it will be handed off once again to another developer. I am getting really sick of developers saying and doing that.

It has not turned out well at all, all these ports and games handled by other people are terrible for the most part. They can't even get PS2 games working properly.. Why even waste the time and money then with people who aren't going to do the project the justice it deserves.

People keep saying PS4's remote play won't help well I beg to differ. Just about every person I know that is getting a PS4 is extremely excited to pick up a Vita also now because of this. Most are even hoping they make some PS4 + PS Vita bundle later on.

Matter of fact most every I know won't stop talking about how great remote play on PS4 will be. Not saying it will be a huge boost but it is definitely going to help.

I personally just get tired o...

Yea can't wait to see that continued 360 support, as if it had a ton of games to being with.. People honestly think Microsoft will work harder on it now than they did when it was in its prime? Ok.

I also think Sony has learned to stop messing with so many games that are just passed off to these random developers to work on instead of the actual developers who make these games. It obviously has not turned out well, again that was probably a way for these bigger developers to try and get your precious "AAA" games out quicker but you saw how that turned out.

So would you rather have a bunch of crappy ass games, no name developers working on the titles you know a...