Ps3 was nice for user, but Sony was arrogant no doubt... because of the crazy price ($600) and the hard to use hardware for developers Ps3 suffered at the early day... Xbox 360 have more games, better price, better network and the only problem was the RLOD, but MS accepted responsability and worked whit a very good warranty...
Early days 360 > PS3, no doubt about this...
But now ps3 have better games, same level of network service for free and good price. this put ...
I don't want Ms to fail! but also i don't want they to set a standard of apps that only works in USA and limitations for user, like fees for used games and pay for basic network service!
I want MS to survive, competition is good for us gamers! But also i want they to learn torespect us, because of this i realy whitch Xbox one to suffer the same way PS3 sufered this generation! Paying for being arrogant and then come back whit games in first place.
you live in USA right?
the problem is not "they don't use", the problem is "they can't use outside of USA"! Asia/South America/Majority of EU/Africa/Oceania! The world is a market too MS!
Nintendo is the weaker of the big 3 when it comes to producing hardware costs...
I can say that for sure, a hardware that cost Nintendo $350 will cost $300 for sony and, problably, the same can be said for MS.
X1 - ps4 will not be above 500, I dare say they will be at the 400 line in their basic packs.
On topic >
I can see:
MS: 1 pack.
$400-450 for the complete Xbox and 1 game.
Sony: 2 packs -
1º) basic ps4, no games, no camera. 400$.
2º) complete pack, camera and 1 game included,$500.
@Memots > this make me thinks, can kinect imput my ps4? what happen if i have X1 and ps4 and i say "Kinect imput/go/play/wathever PS4"?? lol
yep... for all info that i read microsoft sacrificed power for 1 fuction to get more multi-task power... plus, they have made a hevy OS (some say 3gb memory, other say 2gb memory), they got ddr3 (good for multi task and cpu, inferior for GPU)...
In the other hand, Ps4 got DDR5, great for GPU, and focused in 1 task at time whit a simple OS... (not saying that the ps4 can't do multi task, multi task isn't the main focus, but sure ps4 will be able to do multitask.)
actualy i'm prety sure Gaikai Sony service has the edge over MS cloud service. Gaikai is in the cloud service for a long time since 2008 and MS just started cloud (Xbox live isn't cloud... Ms cloud project problably only started at 2010-2011.)
You go full retarded dud... never go full retaded.
In the world : PS3 > Xbox360.
In US : 360>ps3
not sure of this... PS4 looks easyer to program, 8gb gddr5 unificade vs 8 ddr3 plus 32 eSram (3gb for OS) looks a bit more complicated...
Xbox one may become the house of the bad ports, like ps3 in early days.
My list.
1 Games - sony need to show lots of games for Vita and ps4.
2 The hardware/software and network - sony need to show all they can do and explain it better. Ps4 and vita connection, ps eye, Dual shock4, Psn/PSN+...
3 no confusion - sony need to say "we are a game console!" we have some apps like MS, but PS focus is on games!
4 Time - Take your time sony, there's a lot to show, 2-3 h, i doesn't metter... ps4 and vita need time, focus in ...
nothing?
i realy hope MS do something about Xbox one, games and more focus in "no american users"! please, 50% of X1 features will only work in america, at least make games the focus in this machine, don't make no americans think that they will buy just 50% of the machine!
I'm whit ya Dude, steam is a good option for next gen too!
dude, you're doing it wrong. I mean to speak ill of a competitor, just meaningless and without a good foundation, make inquiries obviously partial to one side, this is all fanboy thing ...
Just relax and admit that the MS conference was very bad, let E3 arrives, MS will react and will present good things, I have no doubt about that. In the end MS and Sony will fight with weapons extremely similar, as in the case of the 360 vs ps3, and both will survive in the market.
Save ...
The WII was an isolated case, so it was a success because it had appeal to casual (casual living today in the world of tablets and smartphones and consoles consider secondary objects) because both ps3 and xbox360 was a big crap in the beginning, high price, "lights of death", etc ... and, finally, the PS3/360 cannibalize each other's market, if the 360 (or ps3) were alone he would probably already be in the region of 120 million
Yeah! you said all,and this is 2x true when you are not in America...
it's one... not first, and 4... not fourth.
Ya joke fail...
this isn't the future i want.... idon't care if it is PS4 or X1, i don't want this future for the gaming world!