I think it came from the fact that people are starting to see that Sony is under-delivering this generation. Without Microsoft shooting themselves in the foot, Sony is struggling. They pushed the power and native resolution narrative this generation, and now they're about to lose advantages. They keep doing anti-consumer things like saying no to EA Access, no to backwards compatibility (because gamers don't want it), no to cross-network play with XBL, no to 4K Blu-ray player (again, b...
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Why are Sony fanboys crying about this stuff to Phil? Sony has completely taken nothing but shots at Microsoft since the beginning of the generation.
1.Video with Boyes and Yoshida on how to share used games-
2.Ad campaign saying "Why settle for 720p when PS4 has almost every game at 1080p"-
3.As campaign saying "We use your TV too, for games!"-
4.Yoshida himself tweeted out a graph showing differences between 1080p and 720p-
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What did people actually think it would change? It's the same console with a better GPU, but same bottleneck with the CPU. The memory bandwidth is also largely unchanged. Throw in the fact that it's mandated that all games have to work on all PS4's and it makes PS4 Pro one of the most worthless things ever. Would be quite interested if it got its own set of games, because for a console it's very powerful, but being held back by OG PS4.
They didn't say yes to cross-play. The ball is completely in their court, and I for one am glad that Sony is shooting themselves in the foot repeatedly now. They never did anything to earn the spot they're in. They relied on Microsoft mess up's. Now Microsoft isn't messing up, and Sony doesn't know how to react, so they go back to completely being overconfident and cocky.
So now Sony says "NO" to mods on PS4. Well, we can mark that down with the no to cross-network play, the no to EA Access, the no to backwards compatibility, the no to a 4K Blu-ray player. Oh, and it looks like Sony wants to charge gamers for a 4K patch or HDR patch with PS4 Pro.
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US and UK basically put the Xbox 360 to around 90 million sold. Those two territories are the biggest consumers of games. Scorpio will count in the Xbox One family, and that things gonna be FIRE!
PS4 Pro releases in November, not Sept. And right now you can get old Xbox One Fat's for around $200 and you can get the Xbox One S for $250 and with some games. Sales on the Xbox One S went up 111% after that awful PS4 Pro reveal.
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Just curious why you think that? The slim is really pointless and not even in top 100 on Amazon. Microsoft has ReCore and Forza Horizon 3 in September, and October brings Gears 4 early on.
Somebody crank it! Keep rollin, rollin, rollin! Keep rollin, rollin, rollin!
Xbox on that comeback!
Congrats to Microsoft, can't wait to get my Gears 4 S in October. I'm 4K ready!
Isn't the market shifting to 4K everything? I mean native 4K? Seems like if you're marketing something to that crowd, you'd do native 4K gaming as well as 4K Blu-ray player for media.
This isn't true, and if I were Microsoft I'd call Scorpio Xbox One Pro just to reiterate the point. Phil Spencer said he didn't like small upgrades, if you want to do it, do it big. Scorpio is in the Xbox One Family, just like PS4 Pro is in the PS4 family. Microsoft has stated this.
I realize it's hard for fanboys to deal with a PlayStation console not being the most powerful, but the clocks ticking already. Saying Scorpio is next generation to try and make yourself ...
Dat upscale 4K on PS4 tho.... I am guessing upscale is good now?
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No real threat? You might want to check the Xbox 360 and see the huge chunk of market share and mind share it took from the PlayStation brand.
And you're knocking price drops? How many did the PS3 have again?
No real exclusives because you can play on Microsoft's other platform using Microsoft Windows? Yet PS Now was announced for PC and Sony themselves said they're looking into putting PS4 games on the service and you can already use the DS4 controller with it...
Well Xbox Scorpio will be able to do native 4K gaming, and it'll likely have use of Oculus or Vive. Also, Microsoft seems to be able to get their big AAA exclusives out on time. If it has a 4K Blu-ray player it'll be the trifecta win.
Sony is a pro at misleading people. They never actually said upscale, and their site doesn't really mention it except for the fine print. You also have developers saying "Play Watch Dogs 2" Play Mass Effect" "Play Deus Ex" in 4K on PS4 Pro. Which is VERY misleading.
When the Mass Effect Dev said play it in 4K on PS4 Pro and was asked "Native or upscale" he responded "Neither". So how is it playing it in 4K if it's neither?
Sony had their "Transistors" moment. I remember when PS4 had Xbox One beat in specs and Microsoft just glossed over specs. Now roles are reversed, but no 4K Blu-ray player in a system called Pro? And Sony kept talking 4K gaming, yet danced around the fact that they can't do native 4K gaming and will have to use Temporal upscale.
Definitely not a typical Sony confident presser.
Good question. I think Sony will mislead consumers and call it the PS4K. Even though it can't do 4K gaming native. A lot of people are moving to 4K and would likely be fooled by this tactic, and home team media won't call Sony out.
Sony is in a weird position just like Microsoft was for the XB1 reveal, where they mentioned the amount of transistors inside the box because they knew they were beat on straight up hardware.
Why are Sony fanboys crying about this stuff to Phil? Sony has completely taken nothing but shots at Microsoft since the beginning of the generation.
1.Video with Boyes and Yoshida on how to share used games-
2.Ad campaign saying "Why settle for 720p when PS4 has almost every game at 1080p"-
3.As campaign saying "We use your TV too, for games!"-
4.Yoshida himself tweeted out a graph showing differences between 1080p and 720p-
...
What did people actually think it would change? It's the same console with a better GPU, but same bottleneck with the CPU. The memory bandwidth is also largely unchanged. Throw in the fact that it's mandated that all games have to work on all PS4's and it makes PS4 Pro one of the most worthless things ever. Would be quite interested if it got its own set of games, because for a console it's very powerful, but being held back by OG PS4.
They didn't say yes to cross-play. The ball is completely in their court, and I for one am glad that Sony is shooting themselves in the foot repeatedly now. They never did anything to earn the spot they're in. They relied on Microsoft mess up's. Now Microsoft isn't messing up, and Sony doesn't know how to react, so they go back to completely being overconfident and cocky.
Quote from PSN: They present it as "dlc" on the PSN Store.
Infamous Second Son Pro DLC
This content enables you to play the game at 60fps and adds HDR mode.
$19.99 ADD TO CART
Please note: This content is only for PS4 Pro
Bethesda clearly states it's Sony who said no. Sony doesn't want to allow them. Not sure why not, they're quite popular on Xbox One.
US and UK basically put the Xbox 360 to around 90 million sold. Those two territories are the biggest consumers of games. Scorpio will count in the Xbox One family, and that things gonna be FIRE!
Just curious why you think that? The slim is really pointless and not even in top 100 on Amazon. Microsoft has ReCore and Forza Horizon 3 in September, and October brings Gears 4 early on.
Somebody crank it! Keep rollin, rollin, rollin! Keep rollin, rollin, rollin!
Xbox on that comeback!
Congrats to Microsoft, can't wait to get my Gears 4 S in October. I'm 4K ready!
Isn't the market shifting to 4K everything? I mean native 4K? Seems like if you're marketing something to that crowd, you'd do native 4K gaming as well as 4K Blu-ray player for media.
This isn't true, and if I were Microsoft I'd call Scorpio Xbox One Pro just to reiterate the point. Phil Spencer said he didn't like small upgrades, if you want to do it, do it big. Scorpio is in the Xbox One Family, just like PS4 Pro is in the PS4 family. Microsoft has stated this.
I realize it's hard for fanboys to deal with a PlayStation console not being the most powerful, but the clocks ticking already. Saying Scorpio is next generation to try and make yourself ...
No real threat? You might want to check the Xbox 360 and see the huge chunk of market share and mind share it took from the PlayStation brand.
And you're knocking price drops? How many did the PS3 have again?
No real exclusives because you can play on Microsoft's other platform using Microsoft Windows? Yet PS Now was announced for PC and Sony themselves said they're looking into putting PS4 games on the service and you can already use the DS4 controller with it...
Well Xbox Scorpio will be able to do native 4K gaming, and it'll likely have use of Oculus or Vive. Also, Microsoft seems to be able to get their big AAA exclusives out on time. If it has a 4K Blu-ray player it'll be the trifecta win.
Sony is a pro at misleading people. They never actually said upscale, and their site doesn't really mention it except for the fine print. You also have developers saying "Play Watch Dogs 2" Play Mass Effect" "Play Deus Ex" in 4K on PS4 Pro. Which is VERY misleading.
When the Mass Effect Dev said play it in 4K on PS4 Pro and was asked "Native or upscale" he responded "Neither". So how is it playing it in 4K if it's neither?
Not true HDR since HDMI 1.4 cannot support it. And there's 0 games that support it as it stands.
Sony had their "Transistors" moment. I remember when PS4 had Xbox One beat in specs and Microsoft just glossed over specs. Now roles are reversed, but no 4K Blu-ray player in a system called Pro? And Sony kept talking 4K gaming, yet danced around the fact that they can't do native 4K gaming and will have to use Temporal upscale.
Definitely not a typical Sony confident presser.
Good question. I think Sony will mislead consumers and call it the PS4K. Even though it can't do 4K gaming native. A lot of people are moving to 4K and would likely be fooled by this tactic, and home team media won't call Sony out.
Sony is in a weird position just like Microsoft was for the XB1 reveal, where they mentioned the amount of transistors inside the box because they knew they were beat on straight up hardware.