XabiDaChosenOne

@kingkratos "So she is idiot for only killing her father killer"

Yes, only a moron would assume that someone who is screaming and shouting while you are killing someone they love would not come for revenge. Either go all the way through with it (including killing all the witnesses) or why bother? You are just setting yourself up for retaliation.

"Abby showed Ellie mercy and Ellie was the one blinded by rage and revenge"

@Tricksterarrow No its not
@Thekingkratos The argument is why Abby spared Dina not why she almost went through with it. But on a side note Abby is an idiot if she thought there wasn't going to be repercussion for killing Joel. What was she expecting when there were two witnesses there to see it? Stupid character and even dumber story writing.

Abby spared Dinas life because of Lev not because of her own moral compass. When Ellie told Abby to not kill Dina because she was pregnant Abby said "Good".

I didnt feel anything, I just pointed out their attempts at emotional manipulation.

No you can't, and you don't understand the argumment that is being presented. I never said whether or not I wanted to kill those npcs. My argument here is that naughty dog gives you no other choice but to kill these characters than shames you for it. It is stupid virtue signaling.

@SyntheticForm "then I truly believe you don't have the context, or haven't played the game. Truly. That's how I feel." Your feelings reside in a vacuum, but great job doubling down on your hypocrisy. I don't sympathize with characters born out of retcons. Its terrible story telling and no amount of emotionally manipulation from Neil Druckmans garbage narrative is going to change that.

"But, I haven't been as dismissive as that."
Ugh...yes you have.
"If you can't empathize with Abby, at all, then you probably don't have the full context and haven't played the game."
According to you if I can't empathize with Abby at all (which I don't) I am incapable of understanding context and or I haven't played the game. You are complaining about being lumped in a group but look over your comment before you decid...

"If you can't empathize with Abby, at all, then you probably don't have the full context and haven't played the game."
Or, maybe Neil Druckman did a terrible job writing the character. Saying: "yOu JuST dOn'T UnDAStand" is not a valid arugment.

This games narrative is such a disasters, imagine forcing players to commit heinous killings just to emotionally manipulate the player into thinking what YOU just forced he to do makes him a bad person lol.

@Game-ur Yea, The praises that this games story gets is an indication that alot of the critics that gave it stellar reviews for the story don't read books or are being dishonest.

Well its easy to ignore the nuance of the situation and base your argument on a superficial level. Intellectual laziness at its finest.

"Except he did in the first game."
No he didn't and I already know you are referring to Sam and Henry. They had a stand off with each other as soon as the met. Even after Henry was complete honest about about why he was in the city Joel was still hesitant to join up with them.

That's not true at all, when they first met Henry and Sam they were ambushed which resulted in a standoff between the two parties. Clearly showing distrust between the travelers.

@Bathyj "But a valid argument is referring to user reviews when there are so many zeros?" You brought up user reviews first, not me. I simply added that user reviews are a better indicator of how gamers feel about the game than the opinions of 91 game journalist.
"guess which one I'm going to side with regardless of who it comes from?"
Clearly you are going to go with your confirmation bias and choose the 10's not sure what your point is there. T...

@bathyj User reviews are a better indication of what gamers are thinking than critics reviews are. It has come to that point. The first Last of Us has a 91 on the user reviews on metacritic so clearly there is something different about this game.
"Most of the fans who enjoyed the first game, and enjoying the second game and just want to be left alone to do that."
If you are feeling pressured to dislike the game here is a simple fix, stay out of the comments and go...

@Bathyj
Critics don't speak for gamers, 91 positive reviews means 91 people liked the game. That's it.

I watched a full play through, makes me sick to my stomach what they did to the legacy of those characters.

"so with the overhead they have after getting the game to 4K60"
"This dev could have done the same...at 30FPS"
When you have over head you don't have to choose anything, you can have the best of both worlds. Now when you have more demanding titles, THAT is where you have to choose between fidelity and FPS. Ascent is a good looking game but its not a demanding one.

PS3 also popularized blu ray and the PS4 popularized the share button.

Boy are you going to hate that July Xbox reveal.