i called sony and they told me it starts on the 15th of september
if u average it out how many ps3's and xbox 360's r sold each day the ps3 is in the lead the xbox has a year of sales on the ps3 so if they released at the same time then thte ps3 would be winning
maybe if ther was no ps2 and all the ppl bying ps2's bought ps3's then they would be doing better
it took me weeks to just find a second move controller but i see a lot of kinects stacks in stores havent seen them sell out or see anyone trying it out at the kinect station that is set up