The constant robot like mentioning of Call of Duty 4 and Resistance 2, lack of "innovation" when there happens to be a few new tricks never really executed in an FPS game before.

Everyone covering Killzone 2 never seems to take the time to understand where the series came from and where it's going. If it means nothing to you...well what do you want us to do? Don't follow it anymore.

No disrespect to you though. You did take the time to write this.

I think the term 'innovation' has become a buzz word. It's like when someone says, 'Oh, yeah, we're taking it to the next level.' What does that mean? Nothing. It implies a positive step forward, but rarely commits itself to actual details of how and why gameplay is being improved. Innovation without decent application is unimportant.

For instance, everyone loves COD4, most agree, and yet, really, where is the 'innovation' in that game. It simply takes many of the gameplay elements present in the previous games, or other military shooters, and does them expertly and well - for the most part it feels like a combination of GRAW and Half-life 2. And, after all, isn't that whats important? Most excellent games these days tend to be jacks-of-all-trades. Oblivion, GTA4, Mass Effect etc, all combine well recognised genre elements to produce a product with compelling and deep gameplay.

Therefore, I don't think the question about Killzone 2, or any game, should be 'what is innovative about it?' But, 'what excellent gameplay does it offer?' Who could want more? If it truly excels at what it does then it should be a great game. If it fails to live up to the standard of gameplay it attempts to create, then it will not.

Innovation should go hand in hand with creating a better gameplay experience, but we're fools if we don't ask 'why?', when developers reveal some new technology. For an good example of an innovation that was introduced as a gameplay enhancing technology, you need only look at the Euphoria physics engine and its use in games such as GTA4 and The Force Unleashed.

I hope Killzone 2 manages to do both.

To be fair, I set that Avatar before the game came out... never got round to playing it thus far (apart from the demo). Never got round to changing my Avatar either... Hey ho.

Why everyone trashes the original Killzone for the PS2. Now before this weekend, I had never played it, and I was out looking for a different multiplayer game, and picked it up for ten bucks or something like that. I sat down to play it with my buddy, and we had a pretty good time. Personally I didn't like it better than Resistance, the Unreal Tournament Series, or COD4, but it was still fun. I don't know why everyone thinks it's horrible, when it isn't. It's just a solid FPS from four years ago.

First off you dont seem very Understanding. Sony Is not going to show off any real power or innovation till E3 this year or a K2 demo at the end of the year. your right they ARE holding off on some things. and i don't know about any of you guys.

but Halo 3 SUCKED!! even the Pro's at MLG from what i heard dreaded having to change to H3.

but back to main points you are completely correct about Resistance 2. It WILL be astounding. 60 Player Battles no matter what the graphic quality sounds pretty astounding to me!!

If you look at Killzone 2. they way it plays and feels. its more of squad based action(small teams). Resistance looks like clan systems will be heavily played upon. expect to see pro teams require a min of 8 players in my opinion.

In my opinion, Killzone 2 is in a league of it's own. The fact that Killzone 2 is the first FPS game that has a cover system that is kept entirely in First Person view and to me, that's groundbreaking because it's never been done before.

I'm also looking forward to the story in Killzone 2 as well because I played the first Killzone game and loved it, and I can't wait to see what happens in Killzone 2.

As far as Killzone 2 not being innovative or not doing anything different, there's a lot of other shooters that have been released and have gotten high scores during this generation of consoles that have done abosoultely nothing innovative in terms of gameplay in the FPS genre. Like I said before, Killzone 2's coversystem is very innovative and when I first saw it, I was blown away.

Let me ask you this: What is COD5 going to have in it that will be innovative or groundbreaking?... hardly anything at all, it may have slightly better graphics, but you can't really expect developers to do a lot more with FPS games.

Killzone 2 does not look like any other FPS game out on the market right now and that is what makes it different from anything else. Killzone 2 even has it's own trademark enemies, those Helghast soliders with the glowing orange/red goggles and that makes it stand out as well. Resistance 2 is a Sci-Fi shooter, but Killzone 2 is more of a Realistic Sci-Fi shooter, plus, Killzone 2 is going to be very cinematic and the fact that Killzone 2 has virtually no HUD adds more depth to the game. Up until now there hasn't been a very cinematic shooter and that's an area where Killzone 2 will deliver big time as well. And when I say "cinematic", I don't mean long cutscenes either.

I have very high expectations for Killzone 2 and I know that it will deliver. As far as Killzone 2 being another Haze/Lair, that's not a possibility because Guerrilla Games has been working with Insomniac as well as other Sony first party publishers and they have all been sharing with each other various tips and things in regards to game development and with their combined input, there's no way in HELL Killzone 2 will fail to deliver because it will deliver.

Just because the first Killzone game didn't live up to the hype, that's no reason to automatically call Killzone 2 a fail because by now Guerilla has obviously learned from their first mistakes and this time around they've got much more powerful hardware and technology to work with.

And really, we haven't even gotten the full scoop on Killzone 2 yet. Producer Steven Ter Heide said that there will be vechiles in the game at Playstation Day, but he couldn't talk about it yet. Believe me, there is a LOT of stuff about Killzone 2 that we don't know about yet. At E3, I'm pretty sure that's when everything will be revealed, as well as Killzone 2's multiplayer.

There's supposed to be a Killzone 2 beta later on this year, so if you get into the Beta, you'll be able to play the game and take it for a test drive and see if it's what it's all cooked up to be.

Tell me again how the multiplatform strategy was supposed to fix everything. Look at your results and compare them to Nintendo, which keeps thriving with exclusives. Your loyal fans are gone. And let’s not forget the pile of IPs you purchased only to let them rot.

The worst thing is this is down from last years numbers/expectations which was down from the previous years numbers/expectations. You think about how long “down” has been a consistent part of the communication and you realize those subscriptions are what’s holding that boat together. The price cut of gamespass is still a price raise in a string of price raises. They are trying to use players to offset the missing revenue. Now call of duty is out of gamespass, which is literally WHY they bought the company. To draw people to the subscription. They realized they missed a boatload of money and that wasn’t sustainable. Now you pay for it like you would have if they never bought the company… so why buy the company? Mind you those billions still need to be paid back. Yeah it gives you a chance to say we make the biggest FPS… but the internal conversations must be brutal at high level on topics that really matter. Like revenue. Profitability. And ROI for the shopping spree.

Is this like the 10th quarter in a row they're down 33% on hardware how is that even mathematically possible. You would think their mediocrity would Plateau