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Has Nintendo Abandoned the Hardcore Gamer?

This is one of the hot potatoes of the gaming realm. Is Nintendo to focused on the casual gamer to make games for the hardcore gamer?

(If you don't want to read all this just watch the video at the bottom, and yes, the video is my video so it's still my original work)

Nintendo, savior of the gaming world once, Giant in gaming revolution, advocate to the casual, abandoned-er of their supporters. I've heard Nintendo called all of these things and more in recent times. While these conclusions are partially true that Nintendo has shifted to towards the casual market they haven't abandoned the hardcore gamer all together.

How can I say this? Have I seen the Wii market? Yes. Yes I have. I completely realize that something like 85-90% of the Wii market is casual games/mini-games, but is that really Nintendo's fault? No. Nintendo doesn't make all of these mini-game games that are on their system, they just allow them to be there. And why not? Nintendo makes a percentage of all of the game's sold for it's system so why not let developers develop and sell these games, it doesn't cost Nintendo money.

So why do we only really see casual games/mini-games on the Wii? Good question. It's really a very simple answer. Hardware. From a technical standpoint the Wii is inferior to the Xbox 360 and PS3. It doesn't have the hardware to play games like Killzone, Halo, inFamous, or Fallout. This really started back with the N64 but became apparent during the Gamecube age. The N64 had good hardware but was limited in one major aspect. It used cartridges instead of discs. That's why games like Final Fantasy jumped ship and went to the PSone, they could fit more higher quality material on a disc than a cartridge. The Gamecube really expanded that gap when they released hardware that was inferior (When I say hardware I mean the internals) to the PS2 and the newly released Xbox. Developers really started to move away from Nintendo's system because they couldn't make their games with it's hardware. While some games looked absolutely beautiful on the Gamecube (Metal Gear Solid, Metroid Prime, Resident Evil 4), most developers decided not to work with it, when they could get better on another console. That gap became a huge divide when the Wii was released. Nintendo wanted to keep their console at an affordable price and so they had to sacrifice their hardware to do that. The hardcore developers, Bethesda, Guerrilla Games, Bungie, Infinity ward, saw this and said (I imagine) "Why would we waste our time trying to make a game on that when we could make a better game on these other consoles" And their absolutely right. Why should they? And more importantly why would you want them to? Imagine I present you with two cars, One's a BMW, and one's a Buick. They cost the same, but the BMW has leather interior, power steering, air conditioning, satellite radio, and free maintenance for life. The Buick has has fabric interior with coffee stains, no power steering, no air conditioning, no limited radio, and limited maintenance. Which would you choose? I think the choice is obvious. That's kind of the way it is with the Wii and Xbox or PS3.

But there are some Hardcore games on the Wii, how do you explain those? Simple. Some developers saw potential for what they could do on the Wii and went with it. But let's look at some of these hardcore games; Deadspace extraction, I'm sorry to say, I really am because I really enjoyed this game, that it did not sell way. In fact it could almost be considered a flop. Madworld, same thing as Deadspace, it just couldn't find a market on the Wii. The second type of hardcore games on the Wii are Nintendo owned games. Legend of Zelda, Mario, Metriod (either owned or first party). All three of these were actually made or owned by Nintendo, and you know what, they were all fun. Could they be considered hardcore? More or less.

The hardcore developers have moved away from the Wii for two major reasons. 1st. The lack of hardware, and 2nd. They have a hard time finding a market on the Wii.

So did Nintendo really abandon the Hardcore gamer in favor of the casual gamer? Yes and No. Nintendo made a choice to make their console more affordable and in doing so they sacrificed hardware. The developers moved away from Nintendo because of the lack of hardware. The lack of hardcore developers meant the lack of hardcore games. The lack of hardcore games meant the lack of hardcore gamers. That left it open for the casual gamers and casual developers to move in.

So again I ask, did Nintendo abandon the hardcore gamer. Not exactly, did they set up the situation that led to the loss of their hardcore crowd? Absolutely.

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iamnsuperman5483d ago

This generation they saw a smart business move to fill a void and it has paid off. I am not holding my breath for the project cafe to be fully hardcore but it is possible going to have a hardcore element. The next move will be the defining moment to do we call Nintendo a harcore platform. I am expecting them too innovate but how we just do not know yet.

lex-10205483d ago

You're very right. I am interested to see what Nintendo decides to do with project Cafe. It should be innovative because Nintendo seems to understand that they need to continuously expand, but I'm curious how.

Active Reload5483d ago

I think with the new console they're bringing out, that they obviously are targeting the core audience. I also think they can let devs do whatever they want with the system and throw the money they made from the casuals toward the hard-core audience. That may sound underhanded, but I don't think the "casuals" will mind. It's kind of like vegetables not voicing an opinion on the fact they're being eaten.

-Alpha5483d ago (Edited 5483d ago )

I don't think they have. They have a great amount of hardcore titles, but are largely overlooked much like the PC's exclusives.

http://www.metacritic.com/b...

The hardware is not the most advanced, the shovelware is plentiful, but I much prefer Nintendo to Microsoft this gen, and in some respects to Sony (handhelds specifically, I prefer the DS)

Speaking of which, the DS has a killer lineup of exclusives that are "hardcore". Their RPG lineup is incredible and I feel that in general, Nintendo games retain a feeling of simplicity that you cannot find on a 360 or PS3/PSP game

_Q_5483d ago

I think the conscientiously did so this gen.

I think they did it this way to ensure the success of its console. When you've been getting reamed by your competitor for a decade(sans the DS of course). You better come out swinging...That's exactly what they did. They saw that they had to take back living rooms and the gamers they raised(My generation) had out grown them. So when you cant sell it to a certain group, you sell it to all the others. This part was the gamble that seriously paid off. Ninty gambles all the time. People just forget them so quickly. The DS and Wii are like GB,NES and SNES...Good gambles. Think of Virtua Boy, N64 disc,Gamecube and now 3DS as Ninty taking risks on a bad call.. With the Wii being a success Ninty can now fund their next gamble...making a console to win back the hardcore they purposely abandoned to survive. Well played Nintendo..

DonnieDarko5482d ago

Totally abandoned us. The gamecube was pants too. The n64 was cool, I preferred it to psone due to mariokart, goldeneye and Zelda.

Nintendo won't come back to hardcore gamers till the casual bubble bursts

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Jin_Sakai15d ago (Edited 15d ago )

Not looking good. Hopefully Asha Sharma is able to turn Phil’s disaster around.

dveio15d ago

To me it's still quite remarkable how they can cash-in 5.3bn in revenue in a single quarter, since their hardware is basically dead.

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The stock mark is what makes Microsoft remarkable, They have convinced every institutional and retail investor to just keep piling money into them. Like many big tech giants they are just a big growing pyramid scheme. As long as people keep dropping money into ETF's that cover the market Microsoft will always be liquid. At the same time it is completely stifling innovation and competition. People need to start being more discreet in how they invest their money as it's killing the system.

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Once they re-evaluate exclusive all will be fine….

S2Killinit15d ago

Riiiiight because people will just flock back to them for one or two games per year.

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15+ years of bad performance is what they call irreparable in business. It is time for them to sell off the assets and get out of entertainment.

Tanktopmaster9215d ago

These declines are on the back of extra revenue received from releasing games like Forza horizon 5 on PlayStation. So I’m being sarcastic here when I said they should go back to exclusives. Killing off a revenue stream from Ps5 sales will only make things worse

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