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Unreasonable Complaints:- May,19th, 2014 - Watch Dogs Protagonist

It just had to happen again didn't it? I hope, by the end of this blog, more of you will begin to understand why people like me take Social Justice Warriors, Professional Complainers, and the colloquially termed Sh*t Disturbers to task whenever we get a chance to. When apathy is the rule of the day, we only have ourselves to blame when an end result becomes unfavourable to us all.

Today I'm going to talk about an "article" that complains about the gender, and race, of the protagonist for Watch Dogs Aiden Pearce. Here's a link to the article.

http://www.policymic.com/ar...

I'm going to cover this article in sections based on how many paragraphs there are before a picture or video, but right away you should notice the title. The author is starting off from a position that Watch Dogs should have had a female protagonist, likely only because it is the most anticipated game of the year and no other reason. Hopefully she isn't that daft and will actually have a legitimate reason beyond "just because."

Section 1: In this section the author makes repeated comments of how "familiar" or "cookie cutter" Aiden Pearce looks. The author states that Aiden looks "virtually identical" to several other characters from popular games and hints at this being a problem.

Right off the bat I have to ask the author one question.

Do you have eyes?

It's not without merit to state that many male protagonists share similarities, but to call them "virtually identical" makes me question if you are legally blind because only those who are would ever say something that ridiculous. Aiden Pearce looks like Joel from The Last of Us? So you're saying that Aiden Pearce looks like a grizzled middle aged man with a scruffy, greyish beard and a worn face? I don't see that at all, do any of you?

Based on the title of the article, I'm going to assume that the author is stating these claims to suggest that a woman would be a better protagonist than Aiden Pearce simply by virtue of not looking similar to other male protagonists. This is the most superficial "request" one could make and shows that the author doesn't care about the actual character, just that character's gender. Why? Just because of course. Well, I suppose to be fair we could say she's trying to argue for "something different" but so far it's merely on superficial grounds and not for the benefit of the game.

Section 2: This is what I like to call the Social Justice Myth Propagation section. In this section, the author uses vague statistics to prove a point she doesn't make, that being that any other race or gendered character would be better than Aiden Pearce.

In the first paragraph, the author comments on how Aiden was described as an amoral anti-hero, and that that's about as exciting as "a slice of white bread."

My issue with this is that the author automatically assumes that either a female character CAN'T be an amoral anti-hero, or that if she were then it'd be better than a male with the same characteristics... just because. So far there have been many subtle hints the author wants to make the claim that a female character of any other gender would be better, but no definitive and legitimate reason as to why.

The second paragraph is where the vague statistics come into play. The author first cites the ESA's "study" that states that 48% of gamers are female. First, I'd like to link you to that page o' numbers with that claim.

http://www.theesa.com/facts...

Overall, we see that the ESA isn't thorough with their numbers. They just plant them out there and expect people to take them at face value. Looking specifically at the 48% of gamers are female, we see that they didn't elaborate. This number represents a sum total of any ability to game. It doesn't say what percentage of those female gamers game on what devices, it doesn't say what percentage plays what types of games, and when you click on the link at the bottom that takes you to a PDF that has more information, it's still completely vague. When trying to find out how the study came to these conclusions, we see that it was based on a survey of approx. 2200 U.S. citizens.

This represents a HUGE problem that the SJW's and Professional Victims/Whiners of the world are guilty of and yet will never acknowledge. As Homer Simpson said in an episode of The Simpsons "people can come up with statistics to prove anything, 14% of all people know that." Rather than take an in-depth look into the stats being used, the author (like so many before and after her) just takes statistics at face value because doing so appears to reinforce her position. It doesn't.

Third paragraph is another stat paragraph that is just as vague, and irrelevant. Let's say the stats are true, for argument's sake, what does that mean? That because 48% of gamers are female, and that more black gamers spend more time per day playing games than any other group, Aiden should be a black woman? Ok, why? How does that benefit the game? How will the game be improved by catering to these statistics? These questions are always avoided.

The final paragraph slams all journalists for NOT complaining that Aiden Pearce is a white male and that they aren't doing so because of the anticipation behind the game. Yeah, because it has nothing to do with not creating a problem, or complaining about a problem that doesn't exist. It must be because of anticipation and PR. Afterall, we never see game journalists complaining about objectification (*cough*Dragon'sCrown*coug h*) or female under-representation even in games where a female is a main protagonist and done really well (*cough*TheLastOfUs*cough*) right?

Third Section: This section is actually completely irrelevant. The author is pinning the under-representation of women on Watch Dogs, and is again doing so specifically because Watch Dogs is the most anticipated next gen game currently. The author still hasn't, as of yet, provided any explanation and we are still in the "just because" framework of her argument.

The author pretends to know how game development evolves over the life cycle of a console but ignores the fact that many many risks are taken at the beginning of a console cycle in order to drive sales from NEW consumers. The core gamer is more likely to purchase a console from a new gen simply because he/she loves gaming, not necessarily because of any risks taken. Those are just bonuses. But new consumers need something to draw their attention, and that's where the risks apply.

Final Section: This is where the author shows her ignorance of the business side of gaming. No developer or publisher would ever say that it's "tough to justify including female protagonists in a game if you want your game to sell" unless history has proven that to be true. I have to laugh that the author used a picture of Lara Croft as a subliminal way of saying games with female protagonists sell. The reason that game sold has more to do with the game being "good" than it needing Lara Croft to make it good.

And ah, the token mentioning of misogyny and feminism, there you are.

Now it's time to enlighten the author a little bit of some things.

A lot of people love to use the "games are art" argument to criticize gaming as a whole of being guilty of some form of exclusion or under-representation or some other social crime. These people ignore the fact that, as art, the game is only subject to the desires of the artist and no one else. Games are also a business, and an expensive one at that.

Ask any artist or animator about designing women. Any of them CAN do it, that isn't the issue. The problem is that, with games, it's more costly to design women than it is men, especially because hair is one of the most difficult things to draw/animate. In a business where art has to make money, most would tend to pour their creativity in the aspects that won't cost them so much money, like gameplay or story.

So, while I understand that including women as protagonists in games doesn't immediately and inherently make any game worse, you haven't argued for why it makes any game better either. I find this article to also be very selfish, as the author focuses on Watch Dogs simply because it's an anticipated game. There is no reason given as to what having a female protagonist would do to benefit the game, the argument has been just one big "just because" case. You may not like that Watch Dogs has a male protagonist, but there's nothing you can do about it either.

I have to ask why so many people who want things in life, games, or whatever area only complain about the lack of these things and do nothing about it. No worthy goal has ever been accomplished by simply complaining about it not being accomplished until someone gets fed up enough to accomplish it for you. You'd all do yourselves and your cause a world of good by actually taking action rather than putting your social science degrees to work with whiny blogs.

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HonestDragon4425d ago

The author who wrote that abysmal opinion piece is an idiot. She is basically repeating the same tired "view" that some vocal gamers always voice, but in a way that it sounds like they are trying to present the argument in a snobby movie critic's opinion. Let's have a look at some of her illustrious writing.

"He looks virtually identical to Nathan Drake in Uncharted, or Joel in The Last of Us, or Booker DeWitt in Bioshock Infinite, or John Marston in Red Dead Redemption, or … well, the list goes on. Video game developers either have an Adam Levine obsession or they're continuing to lazily cater to a perceived audience of straight white male gamers."

Saying that they look virtually identical basically equates to her complaint that there have been a lot of straight, middle-aged white characters in games. Oh the horror! She doesn't even count them as characters with their own morals, ideas, agendas, dilemmas, or backgrounds. No, no, no! She limits them on what their physical appearance is.

"Unfortunately, Aiden Pearce's cookie-cutter image keeps it from becoming the incredible game Watch Dogs could have been."

"The specific contours of Pearce's character are also snooze-worthy."

These statements are coming from reading a vague description from the developer and seeing Aiden's first appearance, but still ignoring the character as more than that. She presses the non-existent issue further by basically claiming that Aiden cannot appeal to female and black gamers because of his appearance.

"It's hard to know how well a game with a female protagonist can sell until you make one and market it as aggressively as you would any other title. There's no telling how a game with a female protagonist would perform if it had Watch Dogs' creative energy and marketing budget."

It would probably get the same reaction. Marketing is key when it comes to the success of anything. If a company doesn't advertise, then the public won't know about the product.

"Watch Dogs doesn't seem to be a game with misogynist content that will arouse feminist ire..."

Then why complain that the lead isn't female?

"...but it is a prime example of a game whose generic protagonist is worthy of interrogation and criticism."

Ah, there's the justification of her agenda. Overall, her article is pointless drivel that is too often repeated these days. The same argument was just made for homosexuals in games, but what people like the author don't realize is that you cannot take a pitchfork to a person's throat and expect they will change something for the sake of inclusion of a particular person.

I'm a straight, Spanish male in his mid-twenties. Do I think that including protagonists of different backgrounds will help video games evolve? To a point, yes, but it has to compliment the narrative or theme of the game. As someone who is very adamant with his own writing of science fiction, fantasy, horror, and all things fiction of the real world, I more often than not go with what is first in my head when visualizing a protagonist. That has resulted in a plethora of different characters, but it's because I (as a writer) feel that it is congruent to the story as a whole; however, their physical appearance is just one dimension of the protagonist and I take that into account. Others (like the author of the linked article) don't and would rather turn attention to a character's appearance instead of looking at them as an entire person. You shouldn't judge a book by its cover, but some people can't help it and would rather make it an issue.

DragonKnight4425d ago (Edited 4425d ago )

I have to say that I love how, even if it was unintentional, your post really makes the white, blonde woman that wrote this article look racist. Lol. I was approaching it from the fact that she didn't make any real argument, and your way of approaching was just great.

I agree with you too. So many complain about exclusion but never give a legitimate reason FOR inclusion that isn't entirely based on their own personal feelings.

"I'm a black lesbian and I want to play as one in my games."

"Ok, why?"

"Because that's what I am so that's what I want to play."

So basically, it's either inclusion for the sake of inclusion (which so many would state is the wrong reason to do anything), or it's inclusion to cater to someone's feelings, which has no bearing on the game or how well it's made/received in any way.

People have to either admit to their own hypocrisy when they criticize by using the shield of "games are art so they can be criticized as art" because art is subject only to the whims of the artist and not to the considerations of society; or they have to come up with a REAL reason as to why their cause is beneficial to gaming. Last I checked, gamers are still buying these games regardless of what the protagonist is so where's the detriment to gaming?

HonestDragon4425d ago

"I have to say that I love how, even if it was unintentional, your post really makes the white, blonde woman that wrote this article look racist. Lol."

Glad you got a laugh, lol. Didn't mean for it to sound like that actually. XD

The subject gets me kind of annoyed. Well, really annoyed. It irks me to no end how some people try to make issues out of something that isn't an issue to begin with, but they insist it is. That sort of thing is a personal issue rather than a universal one.

"So basically, it's either inclusion for the sake of inclusion (which so many would state is the wrong reason to do anything), or it's inclusion to cater to someone's feelings, which has no bearing on the game or how well it's made/received in any way."

Basically, yes. There are many games with great female protagonists and supporting characters. The author chose (of course) to ignore those and make it a footnote how not a lot of games have a female protagonist.

I buy games that intrigue me. Last year alone, I bought Ni No Kuni, Sly Cooper: Thieves in Time, Tomb Raider, StarCraft II: Heart of the Swarm, BioShock Infinite, Injustice: Gods Among Us, Remember Me, The Last of Us, Metal Gear Solid Legacy Collection, Dragon's Crown, Tales of Xillia, and Pokemon Y. Every single one was a great purchase. I didn't care if a character was one thing or another. The game itself could be great or a complete stinker. It just depends on your taste. Yeah, there are some questionable things that are in games and the industry, but some people just need to chill and game.

Anthotis4425d ago

Blog + 1st Comment = Win

What always makes me laugh/vomit, is when sick SJWs tell us that race and gender are meaningless or nonexistent, then you see them behave like this.

It all comes down to the fact that they hate white men, yet in their sick, twisted minds they shouldn't even be able to define who is white or who is male.

Chris5584423d ago

damn feminist never fail to talkshit but when a game comes and it features a female main character the game sells like shit except for tomb raider because the truth is that from 48% 45% plays candy crush and calls herself a gamer

randomass1714425d ago

Having a woman protagonist in Watch Dogs would have been neat... but it wouldn't have impacted the game all that much either. Also, the world is fictional. It doesn't have to pander specifically to any gender or race or what have you. Why don't Hollywood blockbuster flicks ever get this kind of flack?

DragonKnight4425d ago

Something I forgot to add in the blog addresses, in a small way, what you're talking about with Hollywood.

It's in relation to how costly it is to create certain character types.

See, in books our imagination creates the character in our minds for us.

In movies, it isn't hard to cast any character you want to cast because humanity itself is very diverse.

But in games, developers have to actually make a character, and unlike books or movies it costs real money to make said character. So while it's easy to say "you should make this character a ______" where the blank area represents some special interest group, gender, etc.. people tend to forget that doing so actually means designing the character inside and out. While this would be less costly if you were to say make a gay male character, it nonetheless comes with all kinds of considerations attached to it.

You have to develop the story around many things, and sometimes even the smallest aspect of the protagonist can be crucial.

Hollywood doesn't even have to care about being authentic. They cast based on recognition first, everything else second. They may receive some criticism to that effect, but in the end nothing comes of it. I mean, Gal Gadot is going to be Wonder Woman. Unless she ate McDonald's every day between the time she was chosen, and the time she starts to shoot her part in the movie all while working out at the same time, she's NEVER going to be anything close to representative of Wonder Woman. But is that going to stop anyone from wanting to see her as Wonder Woman? Nope. Is that going to cause Batman vs. Superman to fail? Nope. Does Hollywood care about comic fans having nerd rage over it? Nope.

The only consideration Hollywood puts into casting choices is connections, star power, or appeal to a mass market. Games have to put much much more thought into characters if they want them to be well received.

randomass1714425d ago

To be fair, I think that casting decision has just as much to do with how little control DC has over their live action movies whereas Marvel has their own film studio. :P

But I see what you're saying. One of the best approaches to game character creation in realistic games I think is the scanning or modelling of a real life, existing person's likeness. All the characters in Left 4 Dead have a face model and a voice actor to accompany them. In LA Noire, all the actors' actual likenesses and voices were used in the game to some stunning effect.

Now that I think about it, it wouldn't surprise me if someone complained that LA Noire's Cole was too Caucasian...

kingdip904425d ago

This has nothing to do with watch dogs but I do believe it's on topic as it is also a case of people complaining about exclusion.

Mario cart 8 has been accused of racism.

http://www.gamnesia.com/new...

I'm pretty familiar with the mario universe as I'm sure most gamers are, to my knowledge their are only 2 human characters, mario and luigi.

The princesses and rosalina are from the mushroom kingdom a kingdom which is very racially diverse, from dinosaurs and turtles to mushroom inhabitants and ghosts and most of these races are included in mario kart 8.

Considering the game lore it's a VERY inclusive game.

Wario, waluigi, the baby versions of mario and luigi cannot be of a different race than mario and luigi since 2 are evil clones and the other are their younger selves.

There is literally no logical reason to include any other human race at all in the mario universe, the story doesn't call for it. If say a black person (I don't use African American since not all black people are in fact from america) was to be included it would be as the "token" black guy and in my opinion that's much more offensive and racist and also offensive to the mario lore.

Dragonknight calls the people who write these articles warriors for social justice but I disagree, if they did their research into the video game world's that they try to tear apart with their opinions they would realize the truth of the matter. Mario has only 2 characters who are human (if you don't count clones) and they are brothers, the fact that they are both white is neither strange or offensive but the author chooses to try to be offended anyway.

This isn't the act of someone looking for social justice in fact I say it's the opposite. It's the act of someone who is looking to see hate where there is none in order to make money off people who get angry or outraged by this perceived hate (via clicks and advertising).

Someone who stokes the flames of controversy in order to turn an easy buck is not only spreading hate but they are also being exploitative, they are using racial tensions and social outrage to their own benefit and frankly the minorities of the world deserve better than to be exploited in this way.

DragonKnight4425d ago

I was about to say "you have got to be sh*ting me" when you said that Mario Kart 8 was accused of being racist, but then I read what you linked and realized that someone was actually stupid enough to say something so absolutely retarded.

Mario Kart is probably the most inclusive game that exists. It's so inclusive that it includes races and genders that don't even exist in the real world, and someone had to pitch a fit that there wasn't a black human in the game?

Not for nothing but, Mario and Luigi are Italian. Last I checked, that means they aren't (strictly speaking) white. So if the idiot that said that wants to be technical, then there isn't a single white person in Mario Kart unless you want to make the claim that the Princesses and Rosalina are white because of the color of their skin and ignore the fact that they represent races that don't exist in the real world.

What, can't a Mushroom kin have a peach skin tone? Sounds to me like the author that claimed Mario Kart 8 is racist is in fact racist themselves.

And I agree with your description of people like this. Problem is, they always operate under the claim for being about social justice. People like this are going to ruin every form of entertainment we have because they're just complaining for the hell of it, or to try and force everyone to cater to them. It's sickening, and wrong, and I hope to the gaming gods that no one ever listens to their opinions.

But given that Anita Sarkeesian, the lying con artist that she is, was awarded an Ambassadorial title by the GDC, I'd say we're beyond the point where people like this can be shrugged off as the crazies they are.

SuperBlur4421d ago

"the minorities of the world deserve better than to be exploited in this way."

We , the caucasian , are the minorities nowadays

ITPython4425d ago (Edited 4425d ago )

Kudos to the author of this blog, very good write-up.

I for one am getting sick and tired of people saying things like "There isn't enough female protagonists", or "There isn't enough black protagonists", or "There isn't enough gay protagonists". And anytime there is female characters, black characters, or gay characters in a game, apparently they aren't female, black or gay enough to count for anything.

Not long ago a writer at Kotaku had an article saying that there wasn't enough gays in videogames. And he said that in Mass Effect 3 you could choose to have your character be gay, but he argued that wasn't good enough. Seriously?

Even if the main character in WD was a black gay female, these people would complain to no end about how that character isn't black enough, female enough, or gay enough.

The bottom line is, these people simply use this as an excuse for their own insecurities, failures and shortcomings. If they don't get a job, they go and rage on the internet about how it was because of their gender, skin color, race, or sexual preference, not because they were horribly under-qualified and bombed the interview. And it's these people that are tearing our world apart and are largely responsible for all the segregation in our society. Because instead of seeing a person as a person, they see them as white, black, gay, straight etc. And a person get bonus points if they fit a certain criteria.

The way I see it, if a game's story calls for the main character to be black, female or gay, then so be it. But I have a real problem with people trying to force a main character to be female, black, or gay just because these people believe they are underrepresented in video games.

SeraphimBlade4425d ago

"The way I see it, if a game's story calls for the main character to be black, female or gay, then so be it."

That's the thing though, there's rarely ever a narrative need for a character to be a certain race, gender or orientation. The problem people have is that writers always default to "white, straight male."

DragonKnight4425d ago

If there isn't a need, then the issue becomes catering to the feelings of a group. To people who want that, I have to ask "why?"

So many people forget the business side of gaming and forget just how deep that business side goes.

SeraphimBlade4425d ago

"So many people forget the business side of gaming and forget just how deep that business side goes."

Yes, I realize there's a business side. That's not an excuse, though. That's part of the problem. It's the business side that made Naughty Dog jump through hoops to get female focus testers for The Last of Us. (Implying women are a non-entity in those tests normally) It's the business side that told Dontnod they shouldn't have their female protagonist in Remember Me kiss a guy because they worried the men playing thought it would be "gay" somehow. And if that's what they think of us, what the hell are we doing defending them?

I realize why things are the way they are, but that doesn't mean I have to accept the way things are. If I got stabbed, and people explained why someone stabbed me, that wouldn't change the fact that I'm bleeding.

"I have to ask, "why?""

See, there's the difference: You ask "why?" I ask "why not?"

DragonKnight4424d ago (Edited 4424d ago )

You're right, it's not an excuse, it's a reason. It's the only necessary reason that matters. Now, I tend to like to be a bit more thorough when someone takes any kind of social justice stance, if even a loose one.

So when you said "It's the business side that made Naughty Dog jump through hoops to get female focus testers for The Last of Us. (Implying women are a non-entity in those tests normally)"

The first thing I thought was "no, no one is making that implication but you."

Then I looked into it. Apparently requesting a research firm that is independent of the studio to include female testers is "jumping through hoops." Research firms normally operate under market conditions which is why they would typically consider asking male gamers considering the number of male gamers outnumbers female gamers. All Naughty Dog had to do was request female testers and they got it. No need to make a big deal out of it like there is a concerted effort to keep female focus testers out so that men are catered to only.

Moving on to Remember Me, I seem to recall that the actual controversy was the female protagonist period. Whether you like it or not, no business makes it a habit to make claims like "a game won't sell" or "this won't work with a specific audience" without history to back them up. Remember Me tanked just like these individuals said it was going to. The only thing they were wrong about was why it tanked. But a female protagonist will neither make a game, or break a game, so no one can ever make a claim that a female protagonist will be good or bad for a game and back it with evidence since it's just an emotional issue.

A character's gender is irrelevant unless the game is developed around it, and for that to happen there has to be a reason why.

"See, there's the difference: You ask "why?" I ask "why not?"

Ah, but see I can answer "why not" with legitimate reasons, you can't answer "why" without emotional reasons.

Why not is simple. Why not can be "it doesn't fit with the story", why not can be "we just didn't feel like including it", why not can be "it's been our experience that this doesn't sell or is poorly received."

Why can only be "because I'd like to play as this kind of person."

There has never been an explanation for "why" that shows a benefit or detriment (specifically due to exclusion) to games. Women of all ethnicities still pay for games with white male protagonists. The LGBT community still buys games with straight protagonists. Why? Because a person's gender, or orientation, has no bearing on whether a game is good.

And while you think it's perfectly fine to ask "why not", the game industry will always ask "why." And until you can answer them in a sound, business oriented reply, you will constantly be asking "why not" and never be given a satisfactory answer.

ITPython4424d ago (Edited 4424d ago )

@SeraphimBlade - You said: "That's the thing though, there's rarely ever a narrative need for a character to be a certain race, gender or orientation. The problem people have is that writers always default to "white, straight male." "

The thing is, people are focusing on the characters race and sexual preference when they shouldn't even care. Doesn't it seem a bit racist to you that people are complaining about how there is too many white straight males as protagonists? I mean if most video game characters were black and I said "Why can't we have a white video game character already, way too many of them have been black". You know much much hot water that would land me in? I would be told I am a racist pig and likely have my life threatened for my "disgusting and hateful comments". Yet when people say the same thing about a straight white male, apparently it is perfectly Ok and socially acceptable.

It's a double standard hypocrisy, and generally the most racist people on this planet are the ones who claim to be champions of racial equality. They, above all others, focus on race so much that they don't see people, they just see white, black, gay, female etc etc. And then they apply a grade to each one of these classes in order of importance. In case you haven't noticed, white straight male is on the bottom of importance, which means anybody can be racists towards that group of people and it is perfectly acceptable. But don't you DARE saying anything that could even be remotely construed as "intolerant" to somebody who is a gay minority. Cause even if no harm was meant by the wording, and was completely innocent, non-racist, and perfectly tolerant, somebody would twist the words around to suite their needs.

To add insult to injury is that since so many things nowadays are considered intolerant, racist, bigoted, etc, we have to cherry pick every single word we use so we don't offend somebody, lest we be deemed a racist/homophobe/etc. You know what that does? It forces people to look at somebody's skin color, sexual preference and gender to determine what they can and cannot say, which is the exact OPPOSITE of being color blind and gender equal. Another thing is that companies are being encouraged to hire minorities, gays, and females so they can qualify for certain credits (or even be allowed to continue their business). You know what that does? It forces that company to see not a person, but a gender, skin color, and sexual preference. Again, the OPPOSITE of being color blind or gender equal.

All the race equality, gender equality, sexual preference equality bulls**t these days is doing more harm than good, and is significantly segregating our communities and society's more than ever.

See, when you play a game you must think "Oh boy, another white straight male". When I play a game I think "Ok, here is my main character, now lets play!". It doesn't matter what that character looks like, their gender, race or any of that... I just see them as a main character and enjoy the game for what it is. Honestly what difference does it make what they are? It's not as if a black gay female protagonist is going to somehow create world peace. It's a flipping video game... it's NOT a big deal. And if it bothers these people so much, they don't have to play the game. c But the thing is, they act like their are entitled to it. Which is a whole other can of worms, and I'm fresh out of bubbles.

SeraphimBlade4424d ago

"Doesn't it seem a bit racist to you that people are complaining about how there is too many white straight males as protagonists?"

Doesn't it seem racist to you that people are okay with drastic marginalization of minorities in games?

In a perfect world, your "hypocrisy" argument might make sense. BUT LOOK AROUND YOU. I can't give you a crash course in sociology here, but things are not good!

Who's "assigning scores" to race and sexualities? This is why I hate these arguments here. You're not talking about what I'm saying, you're setting up straw men you know how to argue with. If you wanna play the "find the crazy person who apparently agrees with the other guy in one broad issue" game, I guarantee any so-called "social justice warrior" will mop the floor with you at that.

This isn't about the race of one character, and that's the mistake the article this blog is about made. So, no, I don't see a protagonist and think "oh, another white male." I look at the HUUUUUUUUUUUUUUGE list of white male characters and the tiny, tiny list of every other kind of protagonist (not just in games, but all over pop culture) and think "that's a bit disproportionate."

Anthotis4423d ago (Edited 4423d ago )

Games are, for the most part, made in and about European people and societies, where Europeans are the majority. Funnily enough, our games as well as the rest of our culture reflects that, and other societies do the same.

Naturally, minorities are going to be a minority, hence the reason they are called a minority. For some reason that needs to be spelled out to some people.

As a result, the majority of game characters are going to reflect whoever the majority are, and the minority will reflect whoever the minority are.

kingdip904423d ago

@seraphimblade

The thing is that content creators (in most western media) are white straight males. These creators come up with the idea's for their content from their own imaginations, when I imagine a plot for a story I know the main character I create in my mind is either me or an empowered version of me that's how I identify with my fantasy so well.

I imagine it's exactly the same for content creators. The stories they create are made with themselves in mind, they put themselves into their product that's probably why the games and movie industries are dominated by white straight men as the people who work in that industry are mostly white straight men.

Bollywood movies are mostly filled with indians, Asian movies are mostly filled with Asians, as a in games are mostly filled with Asians and none of that is racist. It's the creators expression of the creators imagination.

Back in the 60's and 70's movies were made to be predominantly black in america, they called them blacksploitation movies as many in the black community felt it was stereotypical, offensive and exploitative.

Is that what these "social warriors" want? More minorities in games just for the sake of them being there? I can tell you this and that is if the industry does that it won't be because of social pressure it will be for a little extra profit and you know what they call it when people use race, gender and orientation to make money don't you?

Exploitation.

The only way this can change in a helpful and not offensive way is if more minorities permeate the gaming and entertainment industries. That way the people portraying them will be genuine, delicate and respectful but sadly will always be in the minority.

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memots4424d ago (Edited 4424d ago )

its all an agenda, its pretty scary. I just had that conversation with my wife.

My brother is gay and i love him and always will, most of is friend are gay and i totally enjoy hanging out with them. And all of them that i know are hilarious and full of life and i wish people would be a little more on the lighter side of things like they are. But the gay agenda that we have been seeing creeping all around us is what starting to really bother me.

I have an issue with the fact that if you simply doesn't like it you completely get chastise and become some kind of retard from the 19th century.
I also don't agree with people bashing gay people and would most likely would beat someone who talk ill about my brother, but on the flip side i really disagree that it this must be accepted and agreed on. We have a right to be against it ( to a certain level ) and we have a right to be all for it ( again to a certain level )

Don't shove it down my throat ( no pun intended lol ) don't force every one to looks at you or agree with your view for whatever side of the fence you are on.

SeraphimBlade4424d ago

Thank you, thank you, thank you for reminding me I should not be wasting my time making comments here. You unironically used the term "gay agenda." This is the kind of person I'm dealing with. I should clearly just leave.

memots4423d ago

@SeraphimBlade

I am very sorry you feel this way, But let say for example i would start a petition to stop same sex stuff to be in video game and started controversy when ever i can about it would you say i have a "hetero Agenda" ?

Everyone has an agenda and it sucks , just keep your controversy and sensitiveness out of our games this is not what games are about. Unless the developers makes it about that.

TransientDreamer4425d ago

If the character is written well and is compelling, who gives a shit what race/color/ethnicity they are? Jesus.

DragonKnight4425d ago

SJWs care. They always care. They don't seem to understand that they are being hypocritical. They claim to want equality, unity, and to have all be seen and judged as humans. Yet, leave them to their own vices, and their words are all "differences" and and specific to any group that isn't white and isn't male.

How can people claim to be against things like racism, and yet be racist at the same time?

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Jin_Sakai63d ago (Edited 63d ago )

Not looking good. Hopefully Asha Sharma is able to turn Phil’s disaster around.

dveio63d ago

To me it's still quite remarkable how they can cash-in 5.3bn in revenue in a single quarter, since their hardware is basically dead.

Jingsing63d ago

The stock mark is what makes Microsoft remarkable, They have convinced every institutional and retail investor to just keep piling money into them. Like many big tech giants they are just a big growing pyramid scheme. As long as people keep dropping money into ETF's that cover the market Microsoft will always be liquid. At the same time it is completely stifling innovation and competition. People need to start being more discreet in how they invest their money as it's killing the system.

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Once they re-evaluate exclusive all will be fine….

S2Killinit63d ago

Riiiiight because people will just flock back to them for one or two games per year.

Jingsing63d ago

15+ years of bad performance is what they call irreparable in business. It is time for them to sell off the assets and get out of entertainment.

Tanktopmaster9263d ago

These declines are on the back of extra revenue received from releasing games like Forza horizon 5 on PlayStation. So I’m being sarcastic here when I said they should go back to exclusives. Killing off a revenue stream from Ps5 sales will only make things worse

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