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EA server shutdowns another example of why online passes are a bad idea

Stefanie Fogel writes an editorial on why Online Passes are a bad idea in light of server shutdowns.

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roblef5179d ago

Very good article, but I'm wondering who's upset about these game servers shutting down?

Lulz_Boat5179d ago (Edited 5179d ago )

online passes are inside a BRAND NEW copy. without any price.

it's a problem only if you buy a used copy, and for gaming industries, used copy = bad thing.

1nsaint5179d ago

you'd say that but a lot of people wouldn't even buy the game if it wasn't for used games, the devs still get some money by dlc.

there are a bunch of decent games out there i would like to play, but not even half of those games is worth the full price imo

gamingdroid5179d ago

A lot of people also share their legally bought brand new copy with other family members. They aren't able to do that with Online Passes.

BrutallyBlunt5179d ago

Well if they share the game what's the problem with sharing the online account?

You people act as if one copy means endless licenses. It costs money to run servers. If anyone has an issue with this then set up your own online services. See how much time and effort it takes on your part to make the game sync. to each account. See how easy it is to manage your own leader-boards and trophies/achievements for each account.

gamingdroid5178d ago

@LevelHead

***Well if they share the game what's the problem with sharing the online account? ***

Because prior to Online Passes, I didn't have to share any accounts.

***See how much time and effort it takes on your part to make the game sync.***

My job is to deal with that sort of thing all the time, so I have pretty good knowledge on how much it cost and how much time. Far less than you think!

The online access used to follow the game, not the person/account. This is less freedom and smaller online community for no advantages to the customers.

BrutallyBlunt5178d ago

We will continue to get less freedom as we shift to online supported gaming. It only makes sense from a business point of view. We now live in a world of easy access. Borders have become virtually non-existent and now every Tom, Dick and Harry sells used games. The used gaming market is a lot different now than it used to be. It's very easy to find used games now thanks largely to the internet. The other issue is online games takes online support. So why would publishers want free-loaders on their system as they invest in servers that track your profile and stats?

I too like freedom but I'm not naive to think why they are going this route. Consumers continue to want more. They want more content, unrestrictive freedom and pay as little as possible for it. This isn't like the old days of 6 people in a garage making a game. Gran Turismo is one example. It now has online support meaning Polyphony has to invest more into the franchise. GT5 also took more investment to make. So why would they support a used market that basically sees no net return on their investment from certain gamers?

Steam, IOS devices, OnLive and so on are restricted to their services. We are slowly shifting to that format with console services like PSN and XBL and the online passes are just an introductory way of them going about it and getting the gamer comfortable of having to put codes in to access the content. The consoles will be the slowest to adapt because their infrastructure and history has previously supported physical media. We can all see this is shifting to online supported gaming. Those that whine about not being able to connect or have poor online service with download caps will just be left on the sidelines. The gaming world will move forward without them and there are enough out there who do have access now to make it sustainable but they will do it slowly.

Baka-akaB5179d ago (Edited 5179d ago )

except they usually could . most cases you "just" lose dlcs , bonus and the mp , not the ability to play the game .

Not saying it doesnt hurt , but how many games actually are unplayable ?

Baka-akaB5179d ago (Edited 5179d ago )

EA is always shutting down servers early , regardless of passes , so i'm not sure it's that relevant and such a big point against passes

DFresh5179d ago

What do you expect from yearly sports games?
I also notice that EA always closes their servers more on consoles then PC.

portugamer5179d ago

There should be a law that protects gamers so these can always enjoy a game, even in 10 years. Today, if you want to play some genesis games,like thunder force 4, you can.

For example, imagine you want to play uncharted 3, with a friend, and do some co op missions, in 10 years.maybe your first ps3, where you used the online pass, is dead, and you could buy another ps3, for 50$, so you can enjoy some great games, like god of war 3,4, on your 8k tv, that will upscale god of war 4, add 3d,etc.

You decide you want to play with your friend, but the game asks you an online pass, in order to activate the multiplayer portion of the game, that included the co op missions. Since you don't own a good online pass, you want to get one. But you can't buy them , the psn isn't running anymore, therefore you can't purchase it.

And EVEN if you still have a good online pass, since you have to introduce the code using the psn, and since the psn no longer exists, there you have: you can't play AT HOME , the co op levels on uncharted 3.

This is an example, but I'm sure once the psn goes down, it won't be possible to play many games we have.and its a crying shame. A crime, I would say.

There should be a law, that forces editors to make games, where, AT LEAST, the single player missions of the game will always be playable, with all the content on the disc, in 5,10,15 years.

I think we, gamers, don't realize what's going on, and we just let these studios act the way they want, which means the way they make the most cash. Online passes and dlcs are just some open doors, that will make possible many worse ideas and ways that will block our paid games, in the future.

I really hope, one day, soon, some people will react and act. Any lawyers here?

Baka-akaB5179d ago (Edited 5179d ago )

I doubt the psn structure is going down anytime in the next decade . But yeah , publishers should at least figure a way to give the sp and dlc portions access back to the offline copies at some point

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EA Lays Off Staff Across All Battlefield Studios Following Record-Breaking Battlefield 6 Launch

EA is laying off an unknown number of individuals from across its Battlefield teams, including workers at Criterion, Dice, Ripple Effect, and Motive Studios, IGN understands.

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peppeaccardo75d ago

When logic meets EA it generates anti-matter ..... so try not to apply it in any meaningful way. Entropy is what matters in there !!

badz14975d ago

cue the apologist saying that these are mostly just contractors hired for this specific project bla bla bla

HyperMoused75d ago

TTK for BF employees needs adjusting

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EA makes layoffs at Skate developer Full Circle

The free-to-play reboot topped 15 million players in under three weeks, but EA now claims it needs to reshape the development team.

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Profchaos87d ago

The community warned them this would happen but nope they knew better they continued with the live service push the made the art style cartoonish and this is the result

isarai_lee87d ago

It's always so bizarre when studios announce something super early in development under the suggestion of forming the game to player feedback, and then they push against all feedback heading straight for the cliff while everyone is warning them along the way

badboyz0987d ago (Edited 87d ago )

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US Lawmakers Urge Review Of EA Sale

The Congressional Labor Caucus sent a letter to the FTC warning the debt-financed, largely PIF-owned deal could be bad news for workers

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Trilithon121d ago

lol ya think? they're sending all that work to the cheaper labor market as soon as possible. and FYI, that labor market has exploded in the last 5-10 years. They have enough people to replace every single job. But honestly, EA is over filled with useless upper management as it is. You could probably trim 25% of their staff with no real loss in production. They aren't gamers, they're business execs. Just look at how many AI related jobs they're already starting to post. Its also hilarious that PIF owns Battle field 6

lodossrage121d ago (Edited 121d ago )

Wait,

The same congress that attacked Lina Khan when she fought the Microsoft Activision purchase.
The same congress that allowed Disney to buy 90% of Fox
The same congress that allowed Liv Golf to buy the PGA
The same congress that sits back while Paramount tries a hostile takeover despite losing the bid for Warner Bros.

NOW, the suddenly cares about doing what's "right" for works? Yeah, right.

thorstein121d ago

No. There were elections and some of the scum were replaced.

TheColbertinator121d ago

Different elections. Different scum. Same results.

rlow1121d ago

i know its a long shot, but i hope this gets shot down.

ZwVw121d ago

EA now owned by The Saudis and Ubisoft to inevitably be owned by China. In hindsight, once EA and Ubisoft started having their financial woes, they should have pulled a Koei Tecmo/Bandai Namco by merging their operations into one.