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IBM developing next Xbox CPU, codenamed Oban - report

CVG: According to a new rumour, IBM and Global Foundries are hard at work on the main processor for the next-generation Xbox.

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FrigidDARKNESS5220d ago (Edited 5220d ago )

Awesome the processor being finalized and dev kits will be sent out starting in march. Hoping the GPU gets finalized soon.

blumatt5219d ago (Edited 5219d ago )

It would be hilarious and ironic if MS went with a Cell-based chip. But, I highly doubt it. I'm pretty sure the PS4 will continue using the Cell architecture to preserve PS3 game compatibility, so that all PS3 games on disc and PSN will work no problem.

The war is heating up and I can't wait to see both the Xbox 720 and PS4. I hope they both release at the same time and for the same launch price. Kids in line at the stores will be fighting like crazy and yelling at each other. haha

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Yeah, it would be crazy if the 720 gets announced at MS conference and then BAM Sony comes out at their conference and shows the PS4 too. haha That would make for the best E3 in a long time.

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???? ??? Too scared or lazy to reply with a reason? Can I not be excited for next gen consoles?? lol

darthv725219d ago (Edited 5219d ago )

A real system on a chip that does both cpu/gpu functions. MS has good relations with amd and ibm so it makes sense to continue that relationship for the next xbox.

I was thinking they could get the custom cpu/gpu from amd seeing as amd makes both. IBM has more experience with the power pc design that has worked so well for the 360. Just make sure it is cool enough.

a08andan5219d ago

I don't think there's a chance in hell that Sony won't use the CELL in the ps4. They have invested to much in it and it is optimized for parallelization, which means better performance from multicore devices. Which the ps4 will be, obviously. That is why we keep hearing "the power of the CELL".

Also, SOny will probably go with Nvidia once again, to ensure backwardscompatibility as well as having an edge over the competition. If the rumours are true, then Nvidia's next chipset (Kepler was it, no?) is a huge step forward and significantly more powerful than AMD's latest.

I don't see how they wouldn't have backwardscompatibility this time around. It would be a very bad choice. A really really really bad choice.

DeadlyFire5219d ago

Looks like WiiU is on Power7 45 nm. I am hoping 8 cores. 32 threads.

Still rumored to have AMD 5000 series GPU. I am thinking with this new Xbox 3 rumor specs. That WiiU has either AMD 5700, or AMD 5800 series GPU. Highest hope I see is 5870 or 5850. Knowing Nintendo I am looking at 5830 with question in mind.

Xbox 3 is on Power7+ CPU 32 nm. I am hoping 8 cores and 32 threads.

Sources say AMD 6670 GPU, but I am thinking to be 6 times as powerful as Xbox 360 this is not the 6670 GPU, but more like the AMD 6850 GPU.

What's the CPU's difference? Well potentially higher clocks and slightly more capacity for embedded RAM I believe on the + specs. Details likely won't be set in stone for announcement until later.

I am hoping this means PS4 aims for GTX 560 if NVIDIA. Looking at OpenRL though makes me wonder if Raytracing + a Multicore high end PowerVR 6 chip might come about in 2012/2013 for PS4 use.

gamingdroid5219d ago

Yeah, I cannot wait for this E3. MS gotta be prepping it!

Try and pull a Sony on Wii U i.e. what Sony did to Dreamcast to steal their thunder.

slavish5220d ago

since its CVG they probably made this up for hits :P

BlackBusterCritic5219d ago

Doesn't matter what its named, if the next Xbox follows in its predecessor's foot steps, it'll be a new chipset a year into its life. Then it'll be changed again...and again...and again...and again...and again...and then you'll finally get a "Slim" model that's reliable.

Nitrowolf25219d ago

The wii won this Gen if were're talking sales

h311rais3r5219d ago

Only 1 gen of Xbox did that. I've had just as many ps3s fail as 360s. The first Xbox didn't fail. So stop acting like all Microsoft items are bad. The ps3 had almost as high a failure rate like most electronics.

kaveti66165219d ago

Yeaaah, so what? Sony did that with the PS3 as well. The chipset kept getting smaller and thus the console was able to use less power, and produced less heat.

You say this like it's a negative. Jeez, talk about the possible lack of exclusives, talk about the questionable manufacturing process at Foxconn, talk about the possible unreliability of the launch SKUs, fine. But don't talk crap about Microsoft reducing the chip size as though it's a bad thing.

KingSlayer5219d ago (Edited 5219d ago )

I look fwd to not buying the next Xbox.

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Shoot I purposefully don't give a shit.

GamingTruth5219d ago

i accidentally agreed with you

ZippyZapper5219d ago

They seem to do ok without you

QuantumWake5219d ago

As you can see that even in this article, they mention that the next Xbox will have a Southern Islands GPU. Compared to the 6670 article IGN put out the other day. So let me just remind everyone to take these rumored next-gen "specs" with a grain of salt (including this article since these specs may be subject to change down the line).

I actually had quite a laugh reading all the comments from IGN's article with people saying "WiiU is going to be more powerful than the '720'!" Or "This is because of Kinect and Microsoft's approach to "casual" services". lol

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Xbox boss: Memory crisis could impact next-gen hardware pricing

Xbox boss Asha Sharma has discussed how component shortages will impact the company's plans for Project Helix.

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Eonjay13d ago

When does this end? Its killing everyone. Consoles and PC. And for what? AI? The benefits of AI are completely outweighed by the negatives. And the government should have never allowed one company to buy up all the RAM.

Lexreborn213d ago

This kind of proves this is an after thought product, most products like this are in r&d 5 years before they start mass producing. So they typically have the cost of components and things worked out long before assembly starts.

This is an assumption still, but I wouldn’t be surprised if project helix is similar to Scalebound,perfect dark and sod3. They had an idea but no actual execution other than concept stage. Being impacted by the ram shortage likely would also put this device 3-4 years out.

I’m not even sure MS has that endurance with Xbox yet

Fishy Fingers13d ago (Edited 13d ago )

I mean.... what?

We're at a point that Samsung wont even provide their own phone department ram because they can sell it at higher prices to 3rd parties (AI). Its more profitable to sell the ram than make their own devices with it.

You think because R&D starts 5 years ago the 3rd party component manufacturers will honour that price? They'll sell it to whomever is paying the most today, not some gentlemens agreement they made years ago. AI farms will buy more volume at higher prices than any console manufacturer will. It'll be the same for Playstation.

Lexreborn212d ago

Contractual agreements are not the same as “gentlemen” agreements. If you think that they work with their distributors a month before production then their entire business model is trash. They work with companies like nvidia constantly for building the graphics cards they need. They work with companies that build motherboards years in advance. This is what proper business planning does.

They are not buying components on a whim like a consumer. So again, considering the ram isn’t a singular module and is integrated into the motherboard I highly doubt they wouldn’t have a final schematic that they are supposed to be building around.

If they are delaying production another 3 years then it’s obvious again this is an after though project and is just trying to be responsive to their bad execution they had the last 14 years.

It also isn’t far fetched to use their failure to produce first party titles the last 7 years including the highly anticipated games I mentioned all being cancelled. That they would continue to you know… lie

Sitdown13d ago

You don't really know how this works huh?

Profchaos13d ago (Edited 13d ago )

Helix is going to be stupidly expensive

Instead of leaning into smarter upscaling techniques they're brute forcing hardware that will cost them dearly and it remains to be seen if it's genuinely going to provide a meaningful differential

I know in the oc.doace people like to brag about not using frame gen or dlss to get to high on a game but for the majority of players they happily use those technologies without a second thought

That's going to be ps6 vs Helix

Eonjay13d ago

Yeah with FSR 5 they should be able to offer a much cheaper version of Helix.

Eonjay13d ago

While this does seem to be the case, I am encouraged by the statement from Microsoft about wanting to provide affordable options. If this means a Series S style Helix, at least there will be something affordable being offered.

XBManiac12d ago

Series S is what has killed Xbox Series so... Will they dare?

blacktiger13d ago

It's called systematic inflationary. Yes we get it Microsoft, keep raising in the name ofall kinds of stuffs

pwnmaster300013d ago

Honestly if there was thing I learned from this generation is that new consoles arnt day one anymore.
I can wait 1-3 years.

DarXyde13d ago

Another important lesson from this generation: while Nintendo showed us that prices don't necessarily need to ever drop, we've now learned that waiting 1-3 years does carry some risk that prices increase. This generation is just bizarre in all the wrong ways.

LucasRuinedChildhood13d ago (Edited 13d ago )

The factors are largely external. Covid and Russia-Ukraine war causing inflation led to the first price increase in 2022.

Then we get Trump's tariffs increasing hardware prices, AI boom causing a RAM crisis, war on Iran causing a worldwide fuel crisis which impacts the cost of everything.

Gaming doesn't exist in a vacuum. The last few years have been a shitshow and lot of it was definitely avoidable.

DarXyde12d ago

LucasRuinedChildhood,

For sure. No disagreement on the external factors doing a lot of this. Where I have to gently push back however is on two fronts:

1. The pandemic definitely caused some issues: asynchronous development was a big issue and really complicated timelines and affected game quality. At the same time, when it comes to price hikes, it's really difficult to know what was genuine necessity and what was taking consumers for a ride. The pandemic brought about "stag-flation" which was increasing prices and stagnant wages, which was a problem caused by supply chain constraints. There was also "Greed-flation", where companies that were slightly affected or had no issues took advantage of the situation and squeezed everyone citing supply chain issues when there were none.

2. It's definitely true that the tariffs, AI boom, and RAM crisis were all things enabled by tech broligarchs throwing money at this caricature of a world leader, one of them being Satya Nadella. I don't think Sony and Nintendo have contributed much to this problem if at all, but Microsoft's Nadella I feel was instrumental in causing every one of those issues. Microsoft as a company contributed to both candidates (though they gave Harris 4x as much if I recall), but Nadella was all in on letting AI run wild. He paid for unregulated AI, and got a war that's not a war (even though Trump called it that at least five times on television) that screwed up helium access. So for me, I feel that one of the players in the gaming industry is a key architect of these issues, and for that reason I struggle a bit to think of it as "external".

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15 Years Ago, Mortal Kombat (2011) Saved Gaming’s Biggest Fighting Franchise

A brutal reset, a smarter story, and a return to what made it great—Mortal Kombat (2011) revived the series.

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"Gaming’s Biggest Fighting Franchise"

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DarXyde18d ago

Underrated comment. I used to hate that game so much that any time my siblings asked me to play it, I just picked Hom and shut myself down mid-match.

Soy19d ago

And then MK1 killed it again.

DivineHand12519d ago (Edited 19d ago )

15 years went by so fast. I remember playing through the story mode at launch.

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Pixels in the Blood: The Journey of Rob Hewson

The name "Hewson" carries a special weight for anyone who grew up during the golden age of British computing. As the son of Andrew Hewson—the man behind legendary publisher Hewson Consultants—Rob Hewson didn't just grow up playing video games; he learned to spell his name from their title screens. However, Rob didn't just rest on his family's 8-bit laurels. From leading major LEGO franchises at TT Games to tackling the high-stakes world of technical porting at Huey Games, Rob has carved out a unique path in an ever-evolving industry. In this candid interview Rob to discussed the burden and beauty of a family legacy, the technical "scar tissue" left by the ambitious Hydrophobia, and why porting a masterpiece like Inscryption to consoles is far more than a simple copy-paste job.

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