@jrbeerman11

so by your 'logic' the fact that I had no glitches/bugs playing vanilla Skyrim from day one means that all the problems experienced by the majority of other players can't be true ?

and there is no 'argument' - it's a well known fact that for most people, mods can be troublesome & cause conflicts despite mod managers & such.

Just take a look at the Bethesda, Steam & Elder SCrolls Nexus forums !

i was only using myself as example. But for arguments sake lets throw that out.

You said "often a nightmare to install", maybe for you, but anyone who goes to "the nexus" knows this is not true. I even told you there's a downloader/installer that does everything for you, its as easy as posting on this site. Even without that program, every mod has easy instructions for manual install.

You also said, "& cause so many conflicts you spend more time trying to resolve issues than playing the game". My answer is that modders know what they doing. (if they don't people rate the mods and endorse working ones) They tell you what they are modding and anything it could come in conflict with, which isn't much. And again the mod manager takes care of this, if something causes conflict....turn it off (hitting one button). Oblivion Mods had better bug fixes than Bethesdas patches did. There are already mods that have proven to improve the performance of Skyrim (the forums are actually filled with people comparing FPS improvement on Skyboost)

and for your argument on forums and issues, only people who have problems post, look at the download amounts on those mods and then count the problems and come back to me with a percentage....it will be under 10% and where I come from that doesn't mean "most". So I am sorry but I disagree with the "well known" fact that its hard for everyone, especially Bethesda games.