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PS2 Classics require 'special development' - Sony

TVGB: This week’s PS Store update saw the much-anticipated arrival of classic PS2 games available to download and play. But without any HD remastering of trophy support, these are the original games in their most basic form.

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SonyNGP5340d ago

In other words, "we wanted to sell as many PS2s as we can before doing this".

Maddens Raiders5340d ago

...from the "article":

"But without any HD remastering or trophy support, these are the original games in their most basic form."

...and they're still as good as gold; as they were on the PS2.

“Special development”, eh? Sounds like it’s not as simple as sticking the games up on the Store, then. Will this limit the amount of PS2 Classics we see over time?

if you're that worried about playing PS2 games then go buy a PS2 and forget about it. Worried about NOTHING much? ha haaa

sikbeta5339d ago

Thanks for resume it for me, I was going to say if that was the case, where were the trophies? :P not a trophy-w*** but I like the feature so much and it shows how much dedication I have for the games I like...

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Ju5340d ago

It's a conspiracy! Must be! How dare they release games and charge $10 for them. /s

Maybe they are lying, but my engineering brain tells me, they are patching code to make the emu work. Well, and then package it up into an image that the emu can actually run (plus encryption and stuff).

Not so hard to believe after all.

sikbeta5339d ago

You're right! they should have charge them $50! lol NO! :P

I just want to have a big line-up available for dd for a reasonable price, I'm all for it, even if I don't like dd games (I have a history a HDDs failing on me so bad), I just want the convenience of playing all games in the same console.

Prototype5340d ago

I hope (and pray) Final Fantasy 11 comes to the store; another option to play it would help.

user8586215340d ago (Edited 5340d ago )

Could have added the extra time to add HD/trophy support... just saying

SonyNGP5340d ago

I'm perfectly fine without trophies, and God Hand looks pretty decent when upscaled to 720p.

HeavenlySnipes5340d ago

they wouldn't. Like Insomniac said, its a BIG hassle wading through old ass code trying to change/add things without breaking the game. Especially since its a old PS2 game, unless they are going to get a whole team to remaster the game (they might as well if they are going to open everything up again) it'd be in their best interest to do as little as possible to the games to keep them running properly without new bugs not there in the original game.

smashcrashbash5340d ago (Edited 5339d ago )

Don't waste you breath. Sense is something that is lacking on N4G. No matter how much you argue, use logic or give fact some idiot will keep saying the exact same thing over and over again @ Redempteur. E xactly. This has been discussed many times.

ddurand15340d ago

Or we could get backwards compatibility...

Redempteur5340d ago

you can't

The new PS3 can"t ( physicly ) emulate PS2 games without problem becuase they are missing components ..this is NOT something you can bypass with a All around emulator

montyburns0005339d ago

thats bullshit. after all this TEH CELL nonsense you're telling me it cant emulate ps2 games? i guess the ps3 isnt that powerful after all.

also, good luck getting backward compatibility in the ps4 next gen.

NarooN5339d ago (Edited 5339d ago )

@montyburns000

What are you, dumb?

Not even the Cell can emulate the PS2's complex ridiculous architecture that easily, as demonstrated in all the PS3 models which kept the GS chip but ditched the EE chip, software emu was a bitch, and it's a bitch even on the most powerful PC rigs today with the pcsx2 emulator.

Having to emulate EVERY PS2 COMPONENT at once is ridiculous, especially considering how jacked up the architecture was, and you expect the PS3 to do this without BOTH chips? Are you fucking kidding me?

I hope everyone notices a pattern with the 5 games they released so far: They're all really simple games graphics-wise. Nothing major being done, so I guess they're easy to do via the Cell. But games like Killzone and Gran Turismo 4? Forget about it. Not gonna happen unless they get the HD Remaster treatment.

v1c1ous5339d ago

put it this way. why add $15 chip for perfect emulation, when you can theoretically sell 3 games average over ps3 owner's lifetime at a ~$60 profit?

Hagaf225339d ago

Well why would Sony give BC if they can release PS2 Classics, charge you 10-15 bucks and make more money off it. They know very few retailers carry new copies of any ps2 games, if any at all. If they we to give BC to the consumers there would be no money in it for them, because all those sales would be used. With the PS2 Classics they can charge you again for a game you owned last gen.

I truly enjoyed last gen, but I'll stick to my current gen. Guess it doesnt help I have a BC PS3 so if I want to play PS2 games, I can play the originals.

Godmars2905340d ago

Con - This does nothing for current owners of original PS2 titles other than make them buy them again.

Pros - Given that the titles offered are rare and underplayed, more people now have access to them.

- Drastically undercuts the used game market for the same above reason.

The only question left is will these games be playable as is on the Vita, or will Sony be stupid and either not offer them, or try to make people pay for them a third time.

@Prototype:
FFXI will have to be a remastered. Given that its an MMO.

Then again, it may never come to the PS3 given FFXIV is suppose to be coming to it.

Prototype5339d ago

It would be a smart move if SE did decide to let PSN get at least a download for FF11 and just sell codes to new players; or use an older acct and just log in that way like they do with people who play on more than one console/pc.

When I first got the 60 GB PS3 I was able to play 11 no problems on it with either visuals or connections. Then again with SE's current track record it wouldn't surprise me if they came up with some reason not to. As far as 14 goes I was hyped for it, but ever since I got back in into 11 its one of those "never mind" type situations.

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(For Southeast Asia) New Price Changes for PS5, PS5 Pro, and PlayStation Portal remote player

For Southeast Asia, new price changes.

Prices effective starting May 1st, 2026.

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BeHunted21d ago

Looks like PlayStation took a hit with Marathon and is now quietly adjusting prices worldwide to recover the losses

andy8521d ago

Lets be honest raising prices doesn't do that when no one's buying it. I imagine the profit it greater selling 10 times more at a lower price

Pergele21d ago

Whatever you say buddy, let's all wear the tinfoil hats.

IceKoldKilla21d ago (Edited 21d ago )

LMFAO Your comment alone says a lot more about you than anything else. When has one game not selling 10 million copies made a company raise the prices of their console? Then Xbox would be costing $5000 by now lol. You remind of the crazy drug addicts on the street rambling on about conspiracies. xD You sure you don't need a hug, buddy?

ChunkyMonk21d ago

One game that Sony payed $200 million for. lol
Also, you sure were quick to get triggered. Maybe your the one who needs a hug?

Eonjay21d ago

If nothing else, we should be united against the real issue here. AI and unnecessary tariffs that are effecting all gamers.

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Athlon10121d ago (Edited 21d ago )

The price increases are due to the RAM demand associated with AI and the US-Iran war. You can look to any business news website and local news to see that. Heck, even the 2026 Asus Zenbook Duo I've been eyeing has faced delays and has had a price increase of $400; that laptop has two specs. Asus is doing a staggered release with per-orders for the lower spec now and shipping in May and pre-orders for the higher spec that I'm eyeing starting in June. Basically, all computer manufactures are affected. It'll most likely start affecting smart phones too if it hasn't already. I can't remember the last time any major console maker (Nintendo, Sony, Sega, etc) increased the price of their console mid cycle outside of Microsoft just to make more profit.

S2Killinit21d ago

Its not the war. Its the RAM issue.

jznrpg20d ago

War is causing gas prices to rise. Transport of everything requires gas so the prices of those items go up as well. So it does have an impact

Athlon10120d ago (Edited 20d ago )

The blockage of the Straight of Hormuz due to the US-Iran war has affected raw components used in semi-conductor manufacturing such as bromine, aluminum, and helium. Iran had attacked the liquified natural gas (LNG) plant in Qatar which is a large producer (1/3 globally) of helium which is used in semiconductor etching. So it's the both the war and the RAM crises.

badz14921d ago

Oh no...should I get the Pro now before the price increase?

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Former Xbox Exec Says Developers Didn't Want a Sony Monopoly

Former Xbox executive Ed Fries comments on the early days of Xbox, the opinion of Japanese game companies, and more.

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Reaper22_34d ago

I dont think that'll ever happen. But i must say back in the day, they were definitely trying because they were more cash rich than their competitors.

CosmicTurtle34d ago

I think MS were and still are the richer company. They tried to acquire Sega back in the day (and considered doing so again more recently), they obviously bought exclusivity to Halo which was originally shown as a Mac title. I don’t think as a company MS can claim the moral high ground here. It’s a wilful lack of self awareness.

Of course Sony would try exactly the same if they had the resources, but when the PS2 dominated the industry was in a much healthier place with an abundance of great third parties.

This has been a depressing generation as far as first party decisions are concerned. The fact we are debating business plans rather than which game is better is a sad reflection of the state of things.

Darkseeker34d ago (Edited 34d ago )

There was Nintendo as well, Sony wouldn't have had a monopoly. In fact, the world would be better today if Xbox never existed in the first place. They pretty much brought all bad practices we have today. We might have gotten all of it either way, but not this early. In term of franchises, I don't think there is anything Microsoft released that would actually be missed if it didn't exist. Even Halo the world wouldn't notice if Halo didn't exist.

S2Killinit34d ago

MS was definitely a bad influence on gaming.

raWfodog34d ago

I think almost everyone will agree that a monopoly is not good for the industry. But that being said, the competition needs to be smart and strategic with their business. Simply buying up publishers and traditional third-party studios just to keep them out of the other companies reach is not a sustainable practice. That goes for all parties so don't think I'm just referring to Xbox.

I'm no business guru by any stretch of the imagination but I firmly believe that the best way to drive consumers to your software and hardware is to invest smart in your first-party studios. Give them full support and guidance in making unique, fun games that are only available to play in your ecosystem and the gamers will come.

Reaper22_34d ago (Edited 34d ago )

But first party studios aren't enough. They only make up a small portion of the industry. Without 3rd party there would be no industry for Microsoft or sony.Developing games take time and money and sometimes you gotta make moves to stay competitive.

raWfodog34d ago

Nah, I never said first-party was enough. I said it’s the ‘best way’ to drive gamers to your platform. 3rd-party is a free-for-all and there’s no guarantee that gamers will use your hardware to play the game. If you want to push your own software and/or hardware you need first-party, or at least exclusive deals with third-party studios.

SimpleDad34d ago

They Shure did a great job... 25 years later Xbox is dead.

Reaper22_34d ago

Then why be so emotional and continue to talk about it. Xbox will never die be ause it stays in so many people's head.

lodossrage34d ago

How can you even see him being "emotional" in that comment?

If anything, you're the emotional one, constantly trying to go at anyone that says anything against Microsoft. So when you call him emotional, it comes off as deflection

Elda34d ago

I own an XBSX & I can say it's becoming irrelevant out of the 3 current consoles.

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Sony Shows Off 20 Minutes of Crimson Desert on a Base PS5

Sony uploaded gameplay footage of Crimson Desert on a base PS5 running in what appears to be Quality Mode at a stable 30fps at 4K.

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BlazedKong60d ago

looks god awful on the base systems