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Beta and Demo: What's the Difference?

EA and DICE call their demo for Battlefield 3 a beta. What's the difference between a beta and a demo?

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Wizziokid5355d ago (Edited 5355d ago )

"Beta and Demo: What's the Difference?"

a beta is testing the game for bugs and other issues

a demo is promotional

/end pointless article

iamnsuperman5355d ago

I would argue against that. More and more times are "Betas" being used to advertise the game with them coming weeks before release. The term Beta hasn't changed but the abuse of the word has. Betas are becoming more like demos than actual betas

xPhearR3dx5355d ago

Agreed, but you can't really argue with what Wizziokid said. He speaks facts, yet the industry twist them and turns "betas" into more of a demo like you stated.

iamnsuperman5355d ago (Edited 5355d ago )

@xPhearR3dx that is true but the meaning of words change over time. http://writinghood.com/styl...

and I think we are seeing this transition because of the industry

JellyJelly5355d ago

Are you saying DICE can't test their server functionality with the beta in order to have it running smooth for launch? Is it not a beta if you use it in that context?

DBergmark5355d ago

@JellyJelly I'm not saying that at all. I was explaining how I believe the actual beta process is usually at the beginning of the game creation process instead of after a game has been submitted to consoles for certification. In the context that they are working to improve the title by strees testing the servers, I guess you could consider that but a beta is so much more than a stress test.

Raf1k15355d ago (Edited 5355d ago )

I agree with Wizziokid but demo is short for demonstration.

Originally demos were used to promote a game giving people the chance to see what it's like before buying. These days more devs are using the betas as a way to demo the game as well which is why some games will have a beta client and not a demo.

If players are going to treat betas as demos (which quite a few do) then I see nothing wrong in having the beta be the demo too.

edit: The only problem I have with betas being used to also demo a game is that not everyone gets to play the beta. I think everyone should be able to try a game before making a decision to buy it so it would be good to at least have the beta client updated with the fixes made for the final build as a freely available demo either before or on release of the full game.

Deputydon5355d ago

They could just take the Guerrilla Games route and just call pretty much everything they release 'Pre-Alpha'.

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DBergmark5355d ago

The reason why I bring it up is because so many companies use the term beta in the wrong context. I also was interested in seeing what people thought.

JoGam5355d ago

Like Wizzio said, Beta is a test. Demo is promotional. With that said if companies releases a Demo but say we want to test the game out for bugs, they are using the incorrect term. Demo is short for Demonstration. For example if you came over my house and played 5mins of KZ3 for the first time you just Demoed the game. A Beta is to test software, servers, etc.

MrSent5355d ago (Edited 5355d ago )

Dice has stated they have the ability to change and tweak the engine up until launch. The Beta will absolutely serve as a back-end test and a client side test. they are listening, and have been listening to customer feedback since the Alpha. Maybe some companies get the definition of a 'Beta' wrong, but not DICE.

I think it's the community, fans and gamers that are more often confused with the term.

A 'Beta' is a work in progress, a 'Demo' is a snapshot of the finished product. The good thing about DICE is that their Beta has already had gameplay tweaks, bug fixes, and driver updates, and System Requirements

Solidus187-SCMilk5355d ago

yeah, demos/betas always have a message saying "its not a finished product" but demos are almost always pretty much the same as the final product, unless its a demo way before a game is out(gow 3 demo was from year before it came out).

koehler835355d ago

Problems in a beta are forgivable. Problems in demos are not.

GamerSciz5355d ago

Beta is an unfinished game...demo is a shortened version (snippet) of the finished game. At least that's the way they "were" defined. But as others stated earlier, nowadays betas are being used as advertisements and promotions. However the latter still stands that the definition hasn't changed just yet.

Check out the wiki...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wik...

Nitrowolf25355d ago (Edited 5355d ago )

"Beta is an unfinished game...demo is a shortened version (snippet) of the finished game."

Demo can be of unfinished games to or early builds. God of war 3, Resistance 3, GT5 all had early Demo Build before they were even completed and there are loads of other ones.

But yeah Beta are used as promotion now a days.

Also a Beta doesn't always mean it's an unfinished product. Well I mean yes it is, but it's possible for betas to have final build codes. Depends what Unfinished means really cause both can be unfinished

BF3 Beta is pretty much a demo/beta. Dice can analysis and test their servers and such before release, but since it's so close to release it's pretty much a demo.

GamerSciz5355d ago (Edited 5355d ago )

Disagree all you want. According to the Wiki as well a game demo is just a piece of the full version game in order to promote/persuade people to buy the full game. Whether or not Devs call an early build a demo or not, it is technically a beta if it is not the final code especially.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wik...

TheFirstClassic5355d ago

Can't always trust wikipedia anyway.

TopDudeMan5355d ago

Yeah, by the time the demo comes out it's too late to fix anything, but a lot of people treat them as though they are the same which you can't really blame them for doing because to them it's a chance to see how the game plays and judge whether or not they're going to purchase it.

RegorL5355d ago

"too late to fix anything"
Yes, it would be late to fix their single player.
But that is not what they are testing in this Beta...
They are testing multiplayer, multiplayer requires network access, network access => you may download patches.

DanSolo5355d ago

Basically these days they see an open beta as a bit of both....

It's a Beta as they use it to identify and fix problems and test the servers.... but it is also quite obviously used as a demo as well to promote their game.... it makes sense to be honest.

It will still be called a Beta as it is being used as that.... whereas the term Demo is used when it is purely promotional.

ddurand15355d ago

The line between beta and demo has certainly been blurred in the past couple yrs. That was the point.

peeps5355d ago

Beta's are certainly used as demo's, that much is clear. especially when access to a beta is 'given away' to people who pre order, buy certain games etc etc.

And agree around the point that by calling this a beta still, any bugs found can be put down to 'it's just a beta' despite the fact that the games only a month away.

It's just what this gen is all about, I can't think of a single game that hasn't been patched after release. It's obviously good that games can be updated, but last gen I don't remember having any real problems

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EA Lays Off Staff Across All Battlefield Studios Following Record-Breaking Battlefield 6 Launch

EA is laying off an unknown number of individuals from across its Battlefield teams, including workers at Criterion, Dice, Ripple Effect, and Motive Studios, IGN understands.

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peppeaccardo70d ago

When logic meets EA it generates anti-matter ..... so try not to apply it in any meaningful way. Entropy is what matters in there !!

badz14970d ago

cue the apologist saying that these are mostly just contractors hired for this specific project bla bla bla

HyperMoused70d ago

TTK for BF employees needs adjusting

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EA makes layoffs at Skate developer Full Circle

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Profchaos82d ago

The community warned them this would happen but nope they knew better they continued with the live service push the made the art style cartoonish and this is the result

isarai_lee82d ago

It's always so bizarre when studios announce something super early in development under the suggestion of forming the game to player feedback, and then they push against all feedback heading straight for the cliff while everyone is warning them along the way

badboyz0982d ago (Edited 82d ago )

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US Lawmakers Urge Review Of EA Sale

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Trilithon116d ago

lol ya think? they're sending all that work to the cheaper labor market as soon as possible. and FYI, that labor market has exploded in the last 5-10 years. They have enough people to replace every single job. But honestly, EA is over filled with useless upper management as it is. You could probably trim 25% of their staff with no real loss in production. They aren't gamers, they're business execs. Just look at how many AI related jobs they're already starting to post. Its also hilarious that PIF owns Battle field 6

lodossrage116d ago (Edited 116d ago )

Wait,

The same congress that attacked Lina Khan when she fought the Microsoft Activision purchase.
The same congress that allowed Disney to buy 90% of Fox
The same congress that allowed Liv Golf to buy the PGA
The same congress that sits back while Paramount tries a hostile takeover despite losing the bid for Warner Bros.

NOW, the suddenly cares about doing what's "right" for works? Yeah, right.

thorstein116d ago

No. There were elections and some of the scum were replaced.

TheColbertinator116d ago

Different elections. Different scum. Same results.

rlow1116d ago

i know its a long shot, but i hope this gets shot down.

ZwVw116d ago

EA now owned by The Saudis and Ubisoft to inevitably be owned by China. In hindsight, once EA and Ubisoft started having their financial woes, they should have pulled a Koei Tecmo/Bandai Namco by merging their operations into one.