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A Gamer's Perspective: The Problem With Killzone

Join PixelJumpers as we take a look back at the Killzone Series and exam one of the critical problems that has held it back from true greatness.

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firemassacre5435d ago

The article goes well into detail,killzone has its problems, although i believe the killzone series is still one of the best fps games out there. check out these graphics...(in my personal opinion) unmatched on a console. :)

NovaXz5435d ago

I do agree with regards to visuals, although I definitely see where the writer is coming from. The world of Killzone is far more interesting than your standard shooter but Guerilla never really takes advantage of it.

TheKindRoost5435d ago (Edited 5435d ago )

Here lies the problem with many devs today. They create this rich universe but never take any advantage of it. Expanding them in more than just an fps is a logical way to explore the games universe.

a_squirrel5434d ago

I like Killzone... The first one the most actually...

Ducky5434d ago

@Yellow

Yea, I'm seeing this with a lot of recent FPS games.
Homefront and Brink are two other cases where I also felt the devs failed to take full advantage of the setting.

Then again, story-telling in FPS games is a difficult thing to execute, and only a few games seem to do it well. Which is rather unfortunate.

raztad5434d ago

KZ will reach its true potential when the helghast become the real good guys and their story be told from a different viewpoint than vulgar nazis wannabe.

Stop with the dude bro, stereotypical "good guys" (aka marines) stories GG. Nobody cares about Sev and Rico.

BattleAxe5434d ago (Edited 5434d ago )

I've just decided to trade in KZ 2+3, mainly because I didn't like either campaign enough to replay them again, and I was just totally disappointed with the small amount of content that both games released with, and the problems with the maps not rotating properly kinda sucks. IMO Resistance is the best exclusive FPS game on PS3. GG always delivers with great graphics, but their games always seem to be missing the mark.

kneon5434d ago

@raztad

I had been hoping that was where KZ3 was headed. I had wanted Sev to realize the true nature of this war and try to stop it rather than win it. That of course would have created a huge conflict with Rico.

KZ2 was a much better game than KZ3. Hopefully for KZ4 they stop trying to make it like COD and do their own thing again.

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dragonyght5435d ago

good read, make sense cmon GG give us a helghast game

ASTAROTH5434d ago

Now that you mention it. . . the problem that the Killzone series always had was the media and the fans of other consoles and even PS fans never let it being a game on their own... They always compared it to Halo and the media wanted it just to be another Halo. Fortunately it is not. The first game was great if you forgot about Halo or whatever FPS. The second Killzone is an amazing achievement and Killzone 3 was the "culmination" of Guerillas efforts. An even better graphical achievement than KZ2 and that is not an easy feat.

KZ 3 suffered fron the CODtization of the genre and thats thanks to the ones who complained so much about the fell of KZ2. I think GG could have make an even better game and story if they have ignored the haters.

Same hapenned with Resistance. People complained about the bland an colorless graphics of the first and Imsomniac listened. They made R2 more colorfull and bigger in scope and guess what?? The poeple still complained about the now colorfull and cartony graphics. I as an artist always stay in what I believe not in what a bunch of people tell me. Thats my 2 cents... PEACE

dinkeldinkse5434d ago

But CODtization works just as well. I definitely agree about GG needed to ignore KZ2 haters while making KZ3. I won't go into my problems with KZ3 again, but let just say I would prefer this version of KZ3 to not exist.

thugbob5434d ago

Most KZ fans agree that KZ2 is a better game than KZ3 while still saying that KZ3 is a solid game. I personally think KZ3 is trash, but I'm still looking forward to KZ4.

dinkeldinkse5434d ago

thugbob, did you read my mind?

ASTAROTH5434d ago

Well to say KZ3 is trash is also an exagerated thing.

Every KZ2 fan felt that KZ3 is more akin to Call of Duty because it has a more lightier feel. Make no mistake here... KZ3 is nothing like COD. . . even if its lightier than KZ2 it still heavier than any COD. Also you need teamwork. I believe that KZ2 elitist felt betrayed and all but thats the way they get more people from playing it. Its ok and IMO, and I know I will get a ton of disagrees, KZ3 is the best of the 3. Yes I like it better than KZ2 Its more accesible and less frustrating in the MP.

Also KZ3 has the best graphics of any FPS available rigth now on any console. Yes better than Crysis 2 and I have played a lot of C2. The caharcters in KZ are more interesting and overall the game is still the best FPS so far this year... like it or not.

As I said in a thread about Uncharted 3 beta and how Uncharted 2 "fans" are already complaining all I have to say is ... haters gona hate.

Ohh buddy I respect your opinion but KZ3 is far from being trash...

thugbob5434d ago (Edited 5434d ago )

KZ3 being lighter isn't the only thing makes it feel like CoD. Recoil is now low and Health is now low which means fast kills/quick deaths which means first sight first kill. People will take advantage of this by sitting in a corner of a room taking advantage the probability that an enemy entering the room is high and that they will see the enemy first. This is known as camping which was almost nonexistent in KZ2. And I don't even want to go into detail about how much the classes are unbalanced in KZ3 and how bad the tactical spawn point system is. Who cares if KZ3 is the best shooter this year all of them including KZ3 were disappointments after disappointments. Hopefully Battlefield 3 isn't one of them. Anyway I'm already looking past KZ3 to KZ4 and I hope GG doesn't try to make their game for other fans this time around.

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keith-ps35434d ago

i rent this for like two weeks i play it with my cuzin coop it was just ok nothing great online was fun but i would have been mad playing 60 for it i will get it when its under 20 u can buy part 2 for like 8 bucks at gamestop lol

synchroscheme5434d ago

Very interesting article. Loved the argument on how "modern shooter games dehumanize members of other ethnicities and nationalities by portraying them as the main antagonists, with little motivation behind their actions other than “they’re the terrorists” or “they’re the Russians”."

I feel the connection was unintentional on GG's part, but it's great food for thought in my opinion.

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Helldivers 2 sparked renewed interest in Killzone. Do we deserve it?

Now, with most games these days, live service included, comes the inclusion of microtransactions. In Helldiver 2's case, these come in the form of Warbonds and the superstore. Some of them were a hit, others were a miss. But one of the superstore items that have sparked interest is the Killzone set. While this is nice, this would have much better served as a warbond. Putting it in the superstore comes off as greedy, but that's an issue for another video. More to the point, the Killzone franchise fanbase had taken note, and it sparked renewed interest in wanting the series to be revived.

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lodossrage411d ago

lol well, as fans we'd naturally say that (yes myself included).

But given some of the complaints the series garnered over the years when it was available is why we asked it it was deserved

RaiderNation411d ago

I think it does. A complete reboot would be ideal with a better story and main protagonist. I love the asthetic of the Killzone universe, along with the premise of Earth warring with another planet of humanoid beings, and Earth possibly being the antagonists. They just need to develop a good main protagonist and have better writing. A Killzone reboot in the latest version of the Decima engine would be incredible.

Abear21411d ago

If it makes dollars it makes sense, that’s how these decisions are made.

Clearly Sony or whoever makes this decision isn’t convinced Killzone would sell enough to support the cost of development. They also have a hit with Horizon that isn’t going anywhere anytime soon and prints money.

JunonZanon411d ago

A trilogy remaster with KZ2 MP would be a good start

Cacabunga410d ago

With Move and sharpshooter support? I can dream!

lodossrage410d ago

considering the time we live in, it would more than likely get a VR option to replace the move support

Jingsing411d ago

Not unless they come up with some amazing marketing campaign otherwise it will just perform as bad as Halo these days.

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Killzone composer would love a remaster trilogy, “don’t know if a new game” would be successful

Killzone and Horizon Zero Dawn composer Joris de Man would like PlayStation to make a remaster trilogy, but not a new game.

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_SilverHawk_417d ago

Id like a remaster trilogy and the ps vita version remastered as well. It should also have killzone 2 multiplayer

Cacabunga416d ago

Yes make them start with KZ2 multiplayer remake as standalone!! I would play the carp out of it.

INMATEofARKHAM416d ago

Knowing Sony and how the Uncharted remasters shipped without their MP components they'll likely do the same with Killzone.

Outside_ofthe_Box416d ago

Then there's no point in remastering it imo. KZ2's MP was the best thing about Killzone.

Knightofelemia416d ago

I'd day one a remaster trilogy I'd even day one a remaster trilogy or Resistance as well.

GamingManiac414d ago

Same! But with KZ2 and R2 multiplayer!

JEECE416d ago

I'm glad they stopped making Killzone before people started saying "mid," so I am spared seeing all the braindead "Killzone is actually mid" takes that people inevitably would have offered up in lieu of legitimate analysis.

INMATEofARKHAM416d ago

They were mid, tbh. Just the best Sony put out in the 1st person/exclusive department.

RedDeadLB416d ago

I don't know about that. They weren't the greatest shooters out there, sure, but nothing even came close to the atmosphere of 2 and 3. The feeling of weight, the animations, the style, the multiplayer and the trophies made it one hell of a game. All shooters are in essence point and shoot, but few make you feel the way Killzone made you feel while doing it.

senorfartcushion416d ago

They will cast a woman on one of the lead roles, just like how they did it in the past, but toda's nerds will find an excuse to be angry about it.

ibrake4naps416d ago

It should be a crime that they didn't put out a version of part 2 that supports their VR headset. A no-brainer...

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Killzone Deserves More Than A Helldivers 2 Crossover

Arrowhead is now giving away its second load of crossover cosmetics for free.

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_SilverHawk_511d ago

I would really like a remastered killzone trilogy on ps5. I wouldn't mind even just a killzone 2 remake or remastered with multiplayer but I think it's time for sony to revisit the franchise and do something big.

isarai511d ago

Id love that, with 120fos modes Augh😩

Cacabunga511d ago

KZ2 was and still is masterclass.
KZ3 was great too but KZ2 had a better multi.
SF was not as great but solid game still.

We just want KZ2 remake!

Becuzisaid511d ago

@cacabunga
Don't leave out that Vita game (Mercenaries?). That game was phenomenal. I rank it between KZ2 and 3.

Army_of_Darkness511d ago

Acknowledging the current trends of Sony, I would say if they were to make a new Killzone, they would probably remake it into WokeZone😂

Knushwood Butt510d ago

The isometric game on PSP was a blast too. Had a really solid feel to it. Hope that gets a release on PS Plus Premium.

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TheEroica510d ago (Edited 510d ago )

Begging for remastered games is just so lame... Killzone was mid. Nothing more. Make new stuff.

TriniOutsider510d ago

They're making new stuff...

FPS_D3TH510d ago

lol yeah about all that new stuff….

chicken_in_the_corn511d ago

It needs a new game. Better yet, a new stand alone trilogy.

robtion511d ago

Killzone 2 was INSANE when it came out. The look/graphics were so far ahead of everything else at the time and the story and gameplay were top tier. It still looks better than a lot of games that release now.

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