Rephrase that "Why should MS apologize to core gamers"

If I were a core gamer with nothing but an xbox I'd be disappointed. But from MSs point of view there is nothing to appologise for, their goal is to be successful and turn a profit, not cater to a certain demographic.

I still think it's foolish to potentially let your existing consumer base (core) slip through your fingers. I see a similar cycle for the 720, push hardcore while your hardware prices are still high then move towards casual as they drop. Except of course 'kinect' will be there from day 1.

this is ri-fucking-diculous

what imaginary games are not in production due to kinect?

MS strategy has been small number of high selling exclusives, and strong third party support

they have been successful with this strategy despite the rrod fiasco.

I think some of you bitches just like to complain.

They shouldn't, it's a decent piece of tech (apart from the input lag).

What they should apologise for (and they will after the loss in sales) is their lack of any decent games anymore. Oh, also they should be apologising to anybody who bought a Kinect :P But anybody with a brain obviously didn't buy one so nobody needs an apology.

Another failed attempt at journalism on N4G.MS has nothing to apologise for.what i want to know is,what gives us the right to exclude a segment of gamers,to corner them in a box and ridcule them,yes the casuals.i welcome them to XBL and PSN.the folks that says MS turned its back on the core is pure spin,and does not own a 360.kinect is selling pretty well and if MOVE was getting his kind of love we would not be having this conversation.the one that should apologise is the author of this piece for writting this selfcentered xenophobic trash on N4G.sorry for the rant guys,stop the hate :(

Nothing to apologise for, Kinect is what it is, it's exactly what we all expected it to be, a waste of time casual device with no core games. Hard to apologise when you've told the truth.

If you don;t like Kinect, don't buy it...simple as that.
Why should MS apologize for Kinect?
THIS IS A BUSINESS LADIES...

It amazes me how blind people can be sometimes.

The consumers who have made Microsoft what they are to this day are, by and large, NOT pleased with this current Kinect-heavy approach. These are the people who stuck with MS when their system had a greater than 50% fail rate. These are the customers who made Halo, Forza, and Gears successful.

Yes, there are some "core" gamers who like the Kinect. And that's great for them. Kinect is good for them. But what about those who DON'T want motion gaming? What about those who want new games on their system that can ONLY be played on their system?

Hell, I'm what you'd call a PS3 fanboy. But I've found a game or two I want to play on 360. I own a copy of Lost Odyssey and Fable II, both of which I play on my roommate's 360. But I really don't have a desire to spend money on a system that doesn't promise that future games will be to my liking.

I'm not big on motion controls, be it a Wii, the MOVE, or otherwise. I don't have a Wii, and a large part of that is because there aren't a lot of games that I'd want to play that don't require motion controls. I don't have a MOVE for similar reasons. I like, however, that Sony didn't put all its funds into motion control games, and though i'm skeptical of its success, I like that the WiiU is at least aimed more at core gamers than their current system is.

From Microsoft, I'm getting neither a new system that promises to be more core-oriented, nor a focus of any true sort on core gaming on their current system. Yes, you can call up multiplatform titles, but since they'll be on another system, that's not a draw. And yes, you can bring up the sequels to existing franchises, but those are a bygone conclusion: they will sell on their names alone, honestly.

So what motivation is there for a person who does not like motion control gaming to get a 360? What promise or indication do I have that Microsoft is interested in continuing to support the kind of gaming I like, outside of stuff that's been around long before Kinect? Where is the difficulty in catering to both those who like Kinect, and those who don't?

They have the funds to do so (or did, before their exorbitant marketing campaign on the Kinect), so what's the holdup?

The Kinect has been used in hospitals with custom software. It has aided in life-saving surgeries. There you go. Worth it.

Tell me again how the multiplatform strategy was supposed to fix everything. Look at your results and compare them to Nintendo, which keeps thriving with exclusives. Your loyal fans are gone. And let’s not forget the pile of IPs you purchased only to let them rot.

The worst thing is this is down from last years numbers/expectations which was down from the previous years numbers/expectations. You think about how long “down” has been a consistent part of the communication and you realize those subscriptions are what’s holding that boat together. The price cut of gamespass is still a price raise in a string of price raises. They are trying to use players to offset the missing revenue. Now call of duty is out of gamespass, which is literally WHY they bought the company. To draw people to the subscription. They realized they missed a boatload of money and that wasn’t sustainable. Now you pay for it like you would have if they never bought the company… so why buy the company? Mind you those billions still need to be paid back. Yeah it gives you a chance to say we make the biggest FPS… but the internal conversations must be brutal at high level on topics that really matter. Like revenue. Profitability. And ROI for the shopping spree.

Is this like the 10th quarter in a row they're down 33% on hardware how is that even mathematically possible. You would think their mediocrity would Plateau

Helix will be expensive but it's still a day one for me.

Oh, my days...
So Nadella meets with the US president multiple times to ensure AI regulations are minimal if any at all, donates to the inauguration and ballroom, and his boy not only won't regulate AI as farmers lose land and billionaires/corporations buy up farmland to build data centers...but because he's insane and compromised, he starts a war on behalf of a rogue colonial zionist state and [further] destabilizes the Middle East, restricting component access and helium supply.

Now the head of Xbox is saying the hardware pricing "could impact" next generation hardware pricing? Asha,...your boss at a minimum played a direct role in this. What are we even talking about?

Yea because a $3 trillion company can’t absorb the majority of the cost to keep the product lower for consumers.

Expensive… oh no, here comes another flop.

Could? Strange how prices rise for virtually everything we buy, yet when things settle down, prices don't come down. This has been happening in the UK probably before I was born. With that, how much is a next gen console going to cost? Look at the price of the PlayStation 5 Pro, which has been a flop for Sony. On that note, we don't need the next consoles for another 5 years.

I guarantee if people just stopped buying this kinda stuff all together. This would all be sorted within 2 weeks and everything would be back to normal.

We seen the exact same thing through the COVID period. Companies just jumped on the bandwagon realising that they can get away with charging far more under false pretences and fear mongering.

Consumers now have this fear of "you know what, I only live once. I'm going to spend all this money I earned through my hard work" Or "I only live once I'm going to take a loan out and enjoy my time here".

Silicone Valley spends literally billions of dollars researching how much they can push society to the limits to increase spending. You can research it yourself. There's published written documentation about it. Have a look for yourself into their group research into subscription programs to see how evil they are and why it's such a giant focus of current civilization. Its the very essence of corporate capitalism.

Just delay all new consoles. I could easily go another 5 years with my base PS5.

could? it's already affecting current gen pricing.

It is greed. Apple are selling at the same price, while Microsoft Surface increases 500$ per unit. Karma will tell.