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Why should we bother about a "former" employee? Nothing tells us that this guy was competent whatsoever.

Jump Beyond.

wow this guy seems to know what he's talking about........LOL sorry I can't keep a straight face saying that!
Anyone know what games has this guy actually worked on? Is he a big shot dev or just some low lvl dev that does the busy work for people? LOL a no name low desk job dev talking all big HA

Edit: who gave me a disagree? Can't you spot sarcasm when you see it?

yeah, i know i'm going to get knocked down for this, but i believe what he says. he has worked on both platforms and has written a blog detailing what he believes to be true about the development for ps3 games. with so many ports being inferior on ps3 compared to it's counter-part, how can any reasonable person believe that these aren't very real possibilities as to why? he obviously has technical knowledge of programming and developing on the ps3 and the 360. i own a ps3 and only a few games because in all honesty i find the games on the ps3 to be less quality then the 360 by a mile. that may change next year but with the exception of littlebigplanet, there are no games that i absolutely feel i must have. of course i'll get mgs4 and ffXIII and others, but i also know as soon as i have gotten through those games i will be back on my 360.
and if you don't believe i have a ps3, my tag is chester97 and you're welcome to add me. i am an avid warhawk player.

Please read...
From a poster on that site:

"Getting data off the blue ray drive takes about twice as long as it does to get the same data off the 360's DVD drive."

Afaik the average speed on SL DVD´s is more or less the same as Blu-Ray. On dual layer DVD´s Blu-Ray has a slight advantage.

"Basically, they take the data they would normally send to the graphics chip, send it to an SPU which optimizes it in some manner, then send it to the graphics chip."

They take advantage of the Cell CPU, this is a good thing not a badt thing.

"The code needed to make the PS3 work is most likely only useful to you on the PS3, as the types of tricks you need to do to make the thing perform are very unique to the platform and unlikely to be useful on any other architecture now or in the future."

Yes and No, if you "thread" carefully you will gain speed on the 3 core cpu in the 360.

"but thats unlikely to be realized in any useful way".

Drakes fortune and Rachet and Clank takes up way more space than the 7GB you can store on a 360 DVD.
Maybe you shouldn´t use a launch game as evidence :-)

"The fill rate on the PS3 is significantly slower than on the 360"
If you want to take advantage of the "fill rate" on the 360 you have to reduce the resolution on your games. Hello Halo 3, hello Grand Turismo HD 4 real :-)

And about the author of this blog post:

Playstation Home will compete directly with his new company, so the PS3 is his enemy at the moment. With this as the backdrop, it's hard to lend any credence to his technical arguments.

If your wondering about what this blog author is up to: http://www.neogaf.com/forum...

so its for hisbenefit to discorage developers away from sony's console.

take this and any article bashing the tech of any next gen system with a grain of salt...

okay, so this site only allows blogs that bash the ps3
i thought u werent supposed to submit blogs on this site

They really hate my black box.
You know, my PS3 is gonna get an inferiority complex if you dont back down. Let him be, you bastards! (sniff)

5 guesses where this thread will go.

Must have been one of the Lazy ones. LOL

... title should read ... former and bitter dev talks out his a$$ in some radom blog.

what whiny pity devloper..lol..what games have he made that was graphically amazing..heck i dont even know who he is at all..someone mad at sony for making his life harder..lol..is he even workin on a psp game or ps3..i read that sony didnt want anythin to do with him..maybe that why his going nuts and hating..

lmao

ahahaha!!! some nerds opinion. This site gets worse everyday.

Is truly an idiot, doesn't he realize that he just said that ports will almost always be bad on the PS3? Everyone already knew that, he just tried to put it into vague terms just to dish out some punches at an architecture that he doesn't fully understand.

He said that in order to utilize the power of the PS3 you'd have to be optimizing from the beginning (NOT PORTING) which is what everyone already knew.

This guy just went on and on about how the Playstation 3 can't efficiently run 360 code (NO KIDDING IT'S NOT A 360). Oh, and BTW, what kind of graphics has Harmonix dished out? Yea, I thought so.

after harmonix fired him. So he bashed Sony. He'll apply for a job at Microsoft next get turned down, bash them and follow up the rear with nintendo, ea, naughty dog, epic, activition, midway, the list goes on and on. This dude is a butt monkey, who likes sniffing his own butt, eating his own feces and throwing the extra crap on the wall hence his blog. This dude doesn't belong in somebodys studio. he belongs at a truck stop cleaning the restrooms.

I'm glad were posting blogs from a disgruntled dev w/ a conflict of interest.

Can we start posting forum trolls as credible sources yet?

N4G.com

At 9:05 AM, Anonymous said...

what would you know about it? all of harmonix games looks like sh!t

enough said. if heavenly sword or ratchet didn't come out I might believe him. explain 720p and 60fp with pixar level graphic.

maybe he should speak to those guys over at insomniac

This seems fishy. Then how come so many games on the ps3 run at 720,1080i, and 1080p, and most 360 games are lower than that. Look at halo 3. Plus Have they played ninja gaiden sigma or especially rachet and clank where there is almost 0 load times, from gameplay to cutscene and zero loud time from area to area. I remembering playing guitar hero on my ps2 and it still had load times. Its not like those games had great graphics to begin with.

sigh, by a mile eh? haha man some of you people. The games not made by EA normally do the same if not better, just look at GRAW 2 and oblivion. When you build it for the ps3 it runs better, if you just half ass port, it will rung like a half ass port.

Firs tof all this guy is a former Dev. He said that the ps3 is not more graphical then the xbox 360. I want the 360 to show me any game that looks better then racher and clank. There is no game that looks better then rachet and clnak on the xbox360. And i own both console so i know. All pse game run on a native of 720p but halo runs at 640p This guy doesnt know Crap. No wonder he got fired, the day he got fired was a victory for gamers.

wHO CARES WHAT HE THINKS.... IT'S NOT GOING TO CHANGE THE END OF THE CONSOLE WARS AND A 200$ BLU RAY PLAYER WITH AMAZING GAMES!

devs should optimize for ps3 first and then port to 360, because its easier to cut down codes and compress than to do the oposite. if 360 games came on hd-dvd, then the ports would be even. ps3 is a beast, and it takes real talent to make it sing. and this article is gonna turn into a fanboy war real quick. just wait.

PS3 exclusives do not suck??

Heavenly Sword is great, Resistance is great, Warhawk is great, R&C, GT5 are awesome (having played the demo).

This guys a strange one. We all know what the PS3 is capable of having watched the demos for games like MGS, LBP, KZ2.

I dont care which is system is more powerful. Theres plenty of good stuff on the PS3 to keep me happy.

I wish these silly devs would just shut the hell up and do their job!!

Well, after seeing Ratchet & Clank PS3, I call him a crazy idiot. If something like Ratchet TOD can be done in a console's first year, the future is more than bright.

This guy sounds like an idiot. What is he smoking?

Half of those ports are games that even 360 owners wouldn't have bought if they had better choices early on (example fear and Saints Row). Oblivion, according to gamespot (oooooh gamespot) runs and loads better and faster than 360 (they have on video too...ooooh)so..whatever. MGS4 and FFXIII and VERSUS are three examples of third party exclusives to PS3 that will: a.) sell better than any third party exclusive 360 game and b.) will demonstrate to the world how great games from real third party developers run on PS3 (example Capcom, rockstar, Square Enix). Even Capcom said that DMC4 has no differences. GTA IV, a real seller, we will see how they feel next year. This is sooo a 2007 statement, bring on 2008! PS3 games will not be in the shadow of the 360 or wii next year. This is no flaim, PS3 will also have their share of first party (4-15 million unit sellers, example (LittleBigPlanet, Gran Turismo 5) this generation. And when I talk about third party, I mean third party developer exclusives (like the blockbuster Bioshock which will be the top selling third party exclusive game on 360) not Oblivion or a franchise like Gears which is owned by Microsoft first party.

i think he is working on getting a libel and slander case filed against him....

STONE HIM! BURN HIM!! HE is a (insert here).

1.Biased
2.Paid Off
3.Paid Off By M$!
4.Stupid

Thats about what we will hear from the sonyfanboys more or less.

i stopped there

"You're no Gabe Newell. Stop trying to be."

Not only wins, owns.

This guy is 'former' for a reason. He has no clue what he's talking about. =P

I think I remember reading a rumor that MS is creating a rival for HOME. Could they have sourced it to his company?

http://www.neogaf.com/forum...

What's your agenda buddy?

Give this moron Uncharted Drakes Fortune for 5 minutes

fanboy nonsense in the comments, now its becoming the 'news' to...

any chance of getting a CRAP tab at the top for this type of 'news' to go under..?

Oh damn. PS3 fans just read it. Facts facts facts. I know you want to shoot it down being a 'blog' but this should be a new chapter in the bible.

Especially DJ reading and copying all those 'dev blogs' have you paid close attention to this info?

"The PS3 is more graphically advanced than the 360"

"Fill rate is one of the primary ways to measure graphics performance - in essence, it's a number describing how many pixel operations you can perform. The fill rate on the PS3 is significantly slower than on the 360, meaning that games either have to run at lower resolution or use simpler shader effects to achieve the same performance. Additionally, the shader processing on the ps3 is significantly slower than on the 360, which means that a normal map takes more fill rate to draw on the ps3 than it does on the 360. And I'm not talking about small differences here, we're talking roughly half the pixel pushing power.

"Ok, fine, but the cell is like, super powerful"

In theory, sure, but in reality it doesn't work out that way. Game code simply doesn't split well across multiple processors. You can probably find a way to split a few things off fairly easily - put the audio on one processor, animation on another; but generally the breakup is always going to leave several of the SPUs idle or underutilized. On top of that, it's usually not CPU speed that restricts the visuals in games - it's fill rate.

"Uh, Blue Ray!"

Great for watching movies, but not so great for games. Getting data off the blue ray drive takes about twice as long as it does to get the same data off the 360's DVD drive. That translates into longer load times, or god forbid if your streaming from disk, tighter constraints on the amount of data you can stream."

Well there they go: all those so called 'advantages' of the PS3 aka just a cheap BluRay player...

Ok strike that.

Burn him hes a (insert here).

6.Give him this game

Lets see those games are being MADE SPECIFICALLY for ps3, with close supervision from sony to give those companies *most of which are 2nd party devs* treatment in the area of Tech support when it comes to the ps3.

And all we need as proof that what he says is true is this....

11m sales vs 5.5m
Higher attach rate
More game sales
More games released
Multiplatform games even when created on the ps3 loook better, and work better then the ps3 counterpart.

This is why everyone should buy American. Remember we Americans created video games in the 70s. The 360 is the best!

After playing Rachet & clank which by the way look's fu@king fantastic and runs as good as it looks. Any developer that can't match Insomniac's prowless is nothing but a dud. Nuff said!

You are quick to show the rating of a biased website but not the one of the non biased once. I dont have to show you the score rachet got, cause i am sure you already know. Rachet and clank Was compare to pixar graphic, Ign gametrailers and numerous other website has said it. so dont come with that gears or bioshoch crap, cause it doesnt even compare. Show me a X box game that runs at native 1080p. then you can come an talk to me.

Developers that build their game from ground up to utilize the hardware, are the ones who create great games for both systems. The so called "lazy developers" that develop games on the 360 hardware and then port it to the PS3, are the ones who encounter problems.

One problem with his argument of 'Game code simply doesn't split well across multiple processors.'

While its true that programming for multiple processors is more difficult, its also true that code designed for multiple procs is going to have a much greater performance benefit.

On top of that, Mutiple core CPU's are here to stay. in the past few years you have seen very little in the way of faster single core cpu's. In the future, ps3 or not, if you are a game developer you are going to have to learn how to program and program well on a muticore cpu. Be it PC, PS3, or some as yet unknown future console.

perhaps this guy should go home and get his FVCKING SHINE BOX.

I yet again say

The basics of what we will hear from the sonyfanboys can be boiled down to this.

STONE HIM HE IS (insert here).

1.Stupid
2.Biased
3.Paid off
4.Paid off by M$
5.show him this game its amazing but hey its a title created specifically for the ps3 and only for it, with close supervision, tech help, and money to make it.

Who is this guy and what games has he made?

EDIT: Sorry didn't see anything in his blog just looked it up. Guitar Hero, RaRappa the Rapper, Beatmania, Dance Dance Revolution. Give us a break and you want us to take this guy serious? Lol

Fill rate is one of the primary ways to measure graphics performance - in essence, it's a number describing how many pixel operations you can perform. The fill rate on the PS3 is significantly slower than on the 360, meaning that games either have to run at lower resolution or use simpler shader effects to achieve the same performance. Additionally, the shader processing on the ps3 is significantly slower than on the 360, which means that a normal map takes more fill rate to draw on the ps3 than it does on the 360. And I'm not talking about small differences here, we're talking roughly half the pixel pushing power."

so that is why bad looking games like halo 3 is only 640p on 360 and awesome looking games like uncharted is 720p on ps3? :lol

he has no idea what he is talking about.

No he is clearly being biased from the start he said that all Ps3 game will suck, right then and there you can tell he is being a troll. therefore i can not take his article seriously.

He's not saying the PS3 is inferior, he's saying that for a developer to get the same results of an x360 game on a PS3 game, it would take more resources like money, time, and more developers and looking this from a business stand point is not a good thing.

Why would a developer spend more resources on a game for PS3 when, a) They could use it to work on another games development and b) PS3 game aren't selling so there is no incentive for them. They wont spend time and money on a game when PS3 owner are not buying games. Its simple.

I think he is accurate with he's blog.

This guy is a joke, if you havent worked on a game that uses the cell or any of its power, like say you make PSN game or something like every day shooter for example, why do all of a sudden you think you know the system, that game is not even on the level of most games coming out right now or even next year, your making games that dont even use any SPU's just the basics and you think you know the in's and out's of the system, and the only people that know this are sony and the first party devs.

EDIT: "How do you know that 8 SKU's are better then one" I had to stop right there, first off its SPU's and second all SPU's are the same so ya it is better than 1. Sony should really send out their tech guy and school this person, because until you develope more games for PS3, and games that work with the cell and Nvidia GPU, you shouldnt bash the system.

its ok ill go roundhouse kick him and that will solve all issues

well seems more like porn for the xbox fans to me.

maybe you could get a poster of this guys above your bed....

OK, no one here, and I mean no one knows as much about the PS3 architechure then someone who made a game on it. Yes I believe you have to take the information he said with a grain of salt, he spent the article bashing PS3 without giving the other side of the coin the strong poitns of the ps3. Every system has problems he just highlighted the PS3s and made them see detrimental.

Bashing his games for not being graphic powerhouses is dumb. Graphics come from budget not from skill. Guitar Hero spend the majority of their budget on licensing fees, and did't need to have super graphics.

You ps3 fanboys are rediculous calling him a moron, and you believe that everyone gets paid to say something bad about the ps3. Its his opinion you don't ened to agree with it but at least think about it before disregarding it because its not the same as yours.

If this is true, how do Killzone 2, R&C, and Gran Turismo Prologue even exist?
In the first year of the ps3's life no less(maybe a LITTLE bit after the first year, but c'mon)

i'm sorry ?!??
but is he trying to say that direct ports ( without optimiztion ) wont look good on PS3. Well Duh!!!

And PS3 exclusives wont look good. !!?!?

I must be blind than. Because R&C looks like a freaking Pixar movie and GT5 looks like freaking real life.

Silverwolfe, you're absolutely right about the same level of perfection.

But Who the H3ll is this guy? R&C average is 9.2 or 9.3. Paid off by M$ for sure!

But his opinion has more weight than any of yours. He's a dev! He's worked on 360 and PS3. How many of you can say you've done that? Sounds like he's venting, and he's not the first one to do so concerning the difficulties surrounding the PS3. He's not trashing the console. If you read it, you'll see that he's responding to all the little fanbabies complaining about all the PS3 ports and such. Why should they put more resources into the PS3 version in order to make it run as good as the 360 version? Especially considering the installed base and attach rate of the PS3. Don't attack the devs. It's not their fault. They only have so much time and money. Be grateful that you get the games at all.

It is true, The GPU in the 360 uses unified shading technology that will operate at almost 100% efficiency at all times. The RSX GPU in the PS3 does not, it will operate at about 60% efficiency.

It isn't a big industry secret that the "Cell" isn't a games processor. It is a server or multimedia processor. The SPU's primary purpose is for imaging of Bluray movies. Sony did not choose the Cell bc it is a great gaming processor, they chose it push their Bluray agenda. Sure it can run game code but not as well as it can play HD movies. Isn't it kind of funny how developers are constantly bashing the Cell? The Cell will spend it's life as a crutch for the RSX's shortcomings. That is for the developers that even take the time to use it. The only game I know of that the Cell is used to render graphics is Warhawk.

Not to mention most developers don't want to break down their gaming code into small fragments to run on the SPU's. Sony just wanted to have a processor that could render graphics. Much like the "Emotion Engine" in the PS2. They don't like paying other companies to make hardware for them. The Cell on it's own wasn't powerful enough so they added the RSX. The whole architecture is a programmers nightmare. Using CPU's to render graphics is nothing new, what do you people think PC's did before Graphics Cards were even around??

MART, WillaimLBarker, bloodmask, cyber etc. etc. etc.

lol

Blog post. Sony bashing crew approved. Good job.

As for that guy speaking up, I wonder how long he has had to get used to the hardware. I would like to hear from a developer of a potential triple A title such as someone from Epic of Unreal Tournament fame.

UT3 makes this guy look like an idiot. All you have to do is look at the screen shots and pretty soon play the game to see how much further ass-to-face looks like a dummy.

There aren't loading issues with PS3 games, the only game I have run into with horrid loading was F.E.A.R.

Just a question O.o

the guy looks like jesus..

Coming from an actual developer, i suppose most of them are more or less true.

BUT

"why most ps3 exclusives will likely continue to suck"

This is just uncalled for. In recent memory, if i'm not mistaken, the only major ps3 exclusive that got horrendous review everywhere was lair, and it was mostly because of sixaxis control.

I'm not too sure where "continue" came from, but i suppose he only remembers ones that sucked.

This guy is a troll, he said that must frist party ps3 game will suck. What a troll.

I don't know if he's right or not. All I know is that a lot of third party games do look better on 360 and a few of PS3's exclusives like Lair and even Heavenly Sword fell short.

Others were pretty damn solid like Resistance, Ratchet & Clank Future and Motorstorm.

Sony has always made great hardware, I doubt they made inferior trash they way this guy seems to be saying.

Oh snap.

This guy is a nobody developer. developer all over are saying that the ps3 has alot of untapped power, hideo kojima himself a well respected developer described the ps3 as a theatre. Look at what developers like konami, naughtydog, insomiac and infinity ward are doing. and you can tell right of the bad that he is a troll by coming out and saying that all frist party ps3 game will likely suck in the future.

So how come nba 2k8 and call of duty play the same. this guy is a troll.

The fact is that PS3 games don't look and play as well as 360 games. The 360 has proven to be more powerful. You don't pay $400 or more for excuses. You pay that money to play the best games, which are on 360.

Lazy ass dev!!
back to the Acid Mines for Him...

honestly i believe ratchet and clank heavenlysword killzone 2 mgs 4 and uncharted as alot more than this guy.argue that xbots.believe what you see is what i say

THIS GUY WHO'S PROFESSION IS A GAME MAKER KNOWS NOTHING ABOUT CONSOLES WHERE AS EVERYONE ELSE DOES....................COME ON GET A GRIP OBVIOUSLY HE KNOWS WHAT HE IS TALKING ABOUT A LITTLE.....

Who Is this Guy???
Suzuki Sans protege???LOL

First off I own: Lair ,Heavenly Sword and Motor Storm.
All 1rst Gen Exclusives.
Compared to 2nd gen games on 360 they are Graphically superior,The Sheer size and scope is beyond Xbox 360's(limited dvd and cpu output)

Interms of game play & controls,different!yet very unique in many ways..But none the less something new,not same old console crap! That is the major difference that defines Next Gen..
Not Ports of PC games or PC spec type games you see on 360.

Lets see him port a exclusive PS3 game , when all SPE's are firing at 100% effeciency and 50GB blue-ray is maxed and sixaxis and rumble are fully used.

Sony try's hardest to innovate!!!
NOT imitate!!

Cheap dullard underfunded C++ programmers crying like babies. Go back to HTML ...lol

Its Hilarious how many people started bashing Halo 3 when it didnt even come up....i'll say this i dont know if this is true or not but there is some evidence i.e. Madden,NBA Live, and now Fifa Street and orange box having to be released 2 months later than the 360 version

These are truths about Playstation 3 development supported by the constant delays and inferior ports of Xbox 360 games. Time and time again, you hear this type of news from developers. Developers can tell you this until they are sick in the face and most of you fanboys will continue to deny it.

3 good examples of 5-15 million selling third party exclusive PS3 games that will look as good as they run. The best port was Oblivion...ran better on PS3 anyway back in April. The worst port..who the F&%$ cares...no money to u. PS3 by the end of this generation will have the most successful third party exclusives plus the better looking ones. Period. This statement is sooo 2007.

this was a blog and shouldn't have been approved, N4G is cheapened because it was. Sad! Two this guy hasn't worked on anything and does as he's told. The proof is in the pudding and I see a nice big spoonful of R&C that contradicts anything he has to say.

Is that there are some definte facts here, but they are mixed with some obvious bias, so a little harder to beleive. But he is far from the first person in the industry to say the same thing-- John Carmack of ID and Gabe Newell from Valve, 2 very well known and well respected members of the development community have said much the same thing. Guess what- both are developing for the PS3. The point is, that games developed for both systems that are "started" on the 360 and then "ported" to the PS3 will always look better on 360-- look at the PS2 to Xbox games last time around. But developers that design a game for only the PS3, Resistance, Heavenly Sword, Ratchet, and Uncharted-- these games look fantastic. (on a side note, however, I still do not think that they look "better" than games designed for 360 only, Gears, Halo 3, etc.) Then we have the oft-mentioned COD 4. It looks and plays great on both systems-- but is basically 2 different games, one made specifically for PS3 and one for 360, that just look and play the same. If all games on both platforms were developed like this, you would notice fewer differences between PS3 and 360 versions. BUT, it costs more money and takes more time to do so. Sorry, kids, to let you in on this, but the videogame industry is about making money-- developers and publishers, as well as retailers, are out to make money. I know, its a big shock, but it is also why cross-platform games on PS3 and 360 ARE NOT developed separately in most cases-- it costs TOO MUCH MONEY for what they will get back. No one can claim the PS3 is selling as good as Sony hoped and predicted; so spending extra time and money to make a better version of a PS3 game is not worth it. Lets just hope that the PS3 versions of cross-platform games (the orange box, fatal inertia, etc.) that have been delayed are being polished up, not just pushed back in hope of larger install base....

People in gaming industry are bashing the PS3? SHOCKER!!!!!

I might as well go and kill some chicken and eat some fried wings(yah the type that kills you in the long run, long live KFC). My brain is going asplode if I read any more of this.

Like it or not, EA developers have said it, Take2 developers have said it, Capcom and several others. I tend to believe them. The only other option is saying they are all just lazy, or sabotaging the ps3. There is no conspiracy, they are just trying to let the public know the facts, and let sony know that they need to do something to fix this.

who cares about this guy, he needs to worry about find a new job "former Harmonix dev" lol f@#$%*g prick.

screw this guy.believe what u can see with ur eyes noobs

fanboys pwnd again. Y'all can dish it but cant take it. For the Sony ppl that arent fanboys..PS3 has got beautiful games out there that make this guys comments look uninformed and you dont care what he says. Game on!

"Oh damn. PS3 fans just read it. Facts facts facts."

I stopped right there with you. I don't mind when you state your opinion, which you are entitled to. However, when you start claiming facts, you are no different than Nasim when he states facts. You and him are some of the biggest extremists on this site. It's the way you want to hear it and no other way.

I enjoy reading your "opinions," but when you state facts, you lose a lot of credibility. Your arguments have no balance. You state all positive and no negative (vise versa). That's why you get a lot of disagrees.

As for the article, what does this even mean. Straight forward, someone who used to work for Harmonix doesn't like the PS3. Claiming that the 360's resolution will/is higher than the Ps3's, well that was proven wrong over and over. It's hard to take him seriously when I see games like Ratchet&Clank and Uncharted. Especially R&C, which was completed in about a year with that much polish(not saying it is perfect though).

You can counter pretty much everything he said.

"Uh, Blue Ray!"

"Great for watching movies, but not so great for games. Getting data off the blue ray drive takes about twice as long as it does to get the same data off the 360's DVD drive. That translates into longer load times, or god forbid if your streaming from disk, tighter constraints on the amount of data you can stream."

Granted that the PS3 Blu-ray is a little slower then the DVD drive, but with a standard HDD, some games will install a game cache to help with load time, yeah waiting five minutes for an install to take place can be a drag to some. But its a one time thing and load times are pretty good.

"But it's got a lot more space than DVD"

"Ok, you got me there - it does have a lot more space, and there is the potential to use that to do something cool, but thats unlikely to be realized in any useful way. There are tons of compression techniques available for data and I'd personally rather be able to get my data faster than have more of it. Most developers who use the entire Blue Ray drive are doing it to work around other problems with the ps3 such as it's slow loading - for instance, in Resistance: Fall of Man, every art asset is stored on disk once for every level that uses it. So rather than storing one copy of a texture, you're storing it 12 times. If you took that entire game and removed all the duplicate data, it would likely fit on a DVD without any problem. They do this to speed up load times, which, as I pointed out before, are painfully slow on the ps3. So in this case, the extra space is completely wasted."

Again for load times the PS3 has a standard HDD that can have a game cache installed and so what if some developers have to copy their data 2-3 times (12 has never been done, if you can prove me wrong with a link from a valid gamer website then I will take it as is) if it helps with load times and the games performance then whats the problem, if its okay for a a 360 game to compress data to fit and perform on the 360 why isn't fair game for PS3 developers to use the tools they have.
and a side question how many 360 games would fit on a DVD if not compressed?

"Why the PS3 version often pails in comparison to the 360 version, and why exclusives often suck:"

"As outlined above, getting equivalent performance out of the PS3 requires a lot of work unique to the platform, and in many cases, even with all these tricks, you still won't see equivalent performance. Thus, many ps3 games have simplified shaders and run at lower native resolutions than the 360 versions. On top of this, there is shrinking incentive to do this work; the PS3 isn't selling."

This is an Idoit remark, Games like Oblivion, all the 2K sports games and handfull of others, even though at times delayed a certain amount of time have looked just as good if not better then the 360 version.
Plus all games that are exclusive with the exception of Lair have been praised for somthing great that has been done and all have scored on the 8's and Rachet and clank is averaging 9's (with one exception, but no use in crying over spilled milk.). My favorite line is the part of lower resolution. last time I checked all PS3 games first and third party ran at no less then 720p. While the biggest game in all of Xbox history ran at 640p using the ana/hana chip in order to achieve a "real" resolution figure.

"The code needed to make the PS3 work is most likely only useful to you on the PS3, as the types of tricks you need to do to make the thing perform are very unique to the platform and unlikely to be useful on any other architecture now or in the future. These issues all stem from unbalanced hardware design, and any future hardware that is this unbalanced will likely be unbalanced in a completely unique way."

He started this article with trying to convince people that devlopers are not to blame. Well this line just didn't do it for me. IT's no big secret that the PS3 can not run the same code as the 360, there for making it "harder" to develop for. But this can apply to just about any type of programming. Windows code will not run on a Apple OS or on a Unix system and vice-versa and interchangeable. So what to do? code for the different OS's. Just like you have to program for MAC or windows, it would make sense that Code made for the 360 runs better on the 360 then the PS3 and vice-versa.

"Finally, there's the problem of resources. Game Development is, at it's heart, a resource management challenge. Given finite resources, do I have these five engineers work on optimizing the PS3 version to look better, or do I use them to make the game play better and fix bugs? Do I change my design to fit with what the PS3 hardware does well, or simply run the game at a slightly lower resolution on the PS3 to make up for it? Developers striving to push the PS3 hardware have often sacrificed their game in the process."

Again, its no big secret that the companies that Sony or IBM does not work personally have had issues with the programming so for that Sony take the full on blunt of blame, but the he continues and add "Lower Resolution" All PS3 games at least native 720p, Halo 3 640p using ana\hana to achieve a real figure. And how about we ask Hideo Kojima what "sacfices" he has had to make. last time I checked he was doing just fine and acutally wanted a bigger Blu-Ray disc.

"This post might come across as a lot of Sony bashing, but it's just the reality from the trenches. Sony let their hardware be designed by a comity of business interests rather than a well thought out design that would serve the game development community. They are going to loose hard this round because of it, and I hope that in the next round they take lessons from this round and produce a more balanced and usable machine."

The same thing was said about PS1, PS2 and now PS3 and guess what for third party developers there has been no bigger cash cow then the Sony brand. plus the title says it all "Former Harmonix dev. bashes PS3"
If you are not willing to try something new you don't belong.

What a hilarious read. Sony's got problems.

Why are some ports better on the ps3?? I heard dirt, oblivion, and Call of duty 4 all are better on the ps3.. This guy is talking out of his a$$.. He has no clue what he is talking about..

And why is heavenly sword, motorstorm, resistance, folklore, warhawk, and ratchet and clank all really awesome games???

And what games have you made for the 360 and ps3.. I think you were meaning any game Harmonix makes will likely continue to suck.. Instead of the ps3..

Dont be mad at sony that you guys are about to go out of business..

He has worked with both machines though. That's more than you can say about anyone in here. There wouldn't be 126 comments in 60 minutes on this thread if he didn't write something that had at least some truth in it...

every dev that said the oppisite is lying? IBM is lying too?

The SPEs of the Cell BE make it well-suited for graphics applications like gaming, image ... processing, and hi-definition TVs.
The Cell BE processor is a very powerful processing complex. Specialized programming techniques employed either directly by the programmer or indirectly through tools (like compilers) can pay great dividends toward application performance. Armed with the strategies and techniques outlined in this article, you can realize the full potential of the Cell Broadband Engine processor.

I think he's just lazy.

http://www.ibm.com/develope...

It is way too early to tell if the 360 ports will be better in the future. They have not programed mulit-plat games seperately, they are ported to the ps3 so of course they will be better. They just recently started to program seperately for both systems from scratch (COD4) (Assasins Creed).

Grand Theft Auto: Vice City (Rockstar) (13 million)
Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas (Rockstar) (12 million)
Grand Theft Auto III (Rockstar) (11 million)
Gran Turismo 3: A-Spec (Polyphony Digital) (11 million)
Gran Turismo 4 (Polyphony Digital) (8.79 million)
Metal Gear Solid 2: Sons of Liberty (Konami) (7 million)
Kingdom Hearts (Square-Enix) (5.6 million)
Final Fantasy X (Square-Enix) (5 million)
Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater (Konami) (3.7 million)
Final Fantasy XII (Square-Enix) (3.68 million)

Most of these titles have games coming out in the next six months or so. I dont think that Sony is worried about this clown.

Stop with the Gears of War and Halo 3, Valve and Epic technology.
This is all PC engine technology.(I could just get a cheap Nvidia card for this stuff and be playing in no time with better than 360 specs!!!WHy bother.

Im a new nextgen Console owner(PS3) and I want Innovative Nextgen exclusive games!

Screw ports!(unless its Cheaper for me to buy)Seriously ports should be!

NEWSFLASH!!! This just in the PS3 is HARDER to dev for. If your trying to call this guy a moron you didn't read his blog. Lmao at some of you, you get so butt hurt. The PS3 is harder to dev for, and the install base is smaller so the return is not worth the extra work, that and their confused. If you disagree with this comment or this guy, your wearing some fanboy colored glasses, everything in this article has been known for a LONG time. The ONLY thing anyone could argue over is the "Pixel fill rate" being better on the 360, I am not a dev so I will leave that alone.

I dont know what the hell fiil rates are but all i know is first party games like Uncharted are looking amazing. As for the multi platform game we'll have to see. I've heard other Devs saying (in interviews)the trend is gonna reverse eventually.

You call the comments stupid and uninformed and the make a stupid one yourself. Halo spits out frames at 640p how the hell are you combining the two frames to make one. Bungie said its 640p that means that there are to different frames alternating one at a time not combining thats retarded they still come out one at a time our eyes combine them because the carry image information for so long while receiving new images but each frame coming out is 640p. Frame 1 using lighting 1 frame 2 uses lighting 2 then frame 3 goes back to lighting 1. Mention its fun says its a great game with tons of features but don't make an ass of yourself calling people dumb and then following suit.

But I will about the importance of what he said...or better put...the importance of "that he said it".

Look we can all debate which is more powerful, etc. Probably 99% of us wont change our minds no matter how many good / bad points are thrown from each side.

It is noteworthy though that this developer has publically spoken. It's noteworthy because ( although some hear would argue ) he has credibility in the industry when it comes to the eyes of Joe Public and the lessor informed press core, etc. Right or wrong...he has taken issue with the PS3 and felt motivated enough to publically post on his own blog site. That is a pretty powerful thing to do when we all know how volatile this industry and fans are when it comes to outspoken developers (...see Jaffee).

What this really tells me is.... Sony still has a major PR issue with some of the 3rd party developers. I could be wrong but I have yet to ever hear anyone crack like this on the 360 or the Wii in terms of the way you have to develop for it. Sure I have heard "it could only be done on this system" type comments...but none of the magnitude of "it stinks" kind of level which we read here. And he isnt the first...

This is an issue...and its an issue that Sony themselves really need to spend the time on to clean up if they can. Perception is huge...and perception right now is the PS3 continues to be a difficult machine to work with. Which translates down the pipes to the kids working at Gamestop, etc... saying "PS3 has worse games".

What a load of crap. Thats why he got fired. How can Sony, IBM and their partners invest 70 billion dollars on research only to develop a crap box please. I have been to IBM website and downloaded the information about the cell chip. It is incredible. Yes it will take time to really get alot out of it but at least Sony is not taking long to produce good quality games. Ratchet and Clank: Future would have taken till the end of the PS2 lifespan to come out. It is already before the PS3 has turned one. Incredible. The RSX chip was built to handle all the graphics so that dude needs to go re-educate himself.

His quote:

"I suspect a small number of PS3 only developers will optimize the hardware to do something cool. However, this will be an exception to the rule,..."

Love this:
"... If those will prove to be fun or not is another question."

The facts:

http://www.neogaf.com/forum...

I would not get too worked up over this guy. Other devs have already proven him wrong. Other developers will get up to speed as time goes on...

Yep a former dev, I think we all know now why he's a former dev haha and btw didn't Activision say just a few weeks ago PS3 is the most powerful console? Haha yep, a current 3rd party publisher said that. End of story

hmm...so what this guy among other people have said is that the cell is powerful but may not be the best chip for gaming? Is that right?

Oh I'm to late, like the games for the PS3 always late, damn. It's funny how Sony hyped up their machine's power only for reality to shoot it down.

Lol that guy is a joke, he tell al kinda stuff but dose not give any numbers. Blu-ray is 54 mbps and dvd 360 is 36.55 mgps, so Blu-ray transfer faster.

Dont blame devs....the blame falls mostly on sony with their shortsightedness on how the memory is distributed in the game. This guys mentions "people duped by marketing spin" because thats a great example of some of the people on here...and in all honesty...didnt everything he said was wrong about the ps3 right though..no where I see someone saying he is lying with his facts...Duped indeed.

GIve a donkey cart to ferrari driver and i bet he wont be able to drive it very good.

nuff said

#1 lol, I'v notice Sony supporters will attack anything they can when somebody says something offensive about their prefered console. Shouldn't be that way.

Sony still has much respect in the industry more devs could come out but they don't knowing it would end the PS3 before it got started.

i feel that by the time ps3 reaches its full potential the next xbox will appear

he is a FORMER Harmonix dev, Uncharted and Ratchet look and will most likely play fantastic, and if I've been brainwashed by Sony's "great" advertising, I suggest you look at the hype that is Halo 3, it is a good game but it's not that great.