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Is Sony's 'Welcome Back' Program Enough? | GoozerNation

Jason Trent with GoozerNation writes: "Sony is in a pretty bad place right now, and they need to take some pretty drastic steps in winning back their customers’ loyalty. A press conference early this morning has fleshed out the details of what Sony is calling a “goodwill gesture,” but is it going to be enough?"

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fluffydelusions5474d ago

For some it will be...others not so much. Some people are just never pleased.

CynicalVision5474d ago

'Some people are just never pleased'

You're so right, Sony could of said something like 'we're giving our customers a free copies of Uncharted 2, Infamous, Killzone 3 and free access to PS+ for a year to make up for the outage' and some people would still find a reason to complain.

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zootang5474d ago

It will never be enough for Sony, people want blood from them.

kreate5473d ago

i still got mixed feelings though. im disappointed with Sony regardless its their fault or not.

i think i should sell my PS3 and get the cheaper 360.

losing out on twisted metal and final fantasy versus 13 is the most saddening part for me though.

it depends on this year's E3. than maybe i will buy a PS3 again when those games come out, but for now. im done with PS3.

morganfell5473d ago

"...Sony is in a pretty bad place right now..."

Amazingly it is the so called 'journalists' that are the ones making these proclamations. For the most part, though there are exceptions, Sony fans are not on the same sheet of music as hit desperate sites that are owned by lonely high schoolers.

leogets5473d ago

Lol id complain cos i have all them games, joking aside i think sony owe us nothin as they were the victims and we missed out on 2 weeks of a free service oh golley gosh. All i expected was ps plus users to be extended for 2 weeks

xfrgtr5473d ago (Edited 5473d ago )

@Kreate
Youre a liar,you already have a 360,stop trolling.

ravinash5473d ago (Edited 5473d ago )

I think most people will be glad when PSN is back, and think nothing beyond that.
Its great to have a free months PSN+, but considering that normal on line play is free, they didn't need to do that.

People jump up and down saying Sony owes them!...for what? Its a free service!
And its only been down for a couple of days.

I'm sure there are a few who will be looking for blood, but as always in these things, they will be the most vocal.

Once PSN is back, then most of us will be happy and hopeful that our details will be better protected.

ravinash5473d ago

@ kreate

What you said makes no sense.
Why go out and sell a console only to go back and buy it again a few months later?

Sounds like a lot of effort to lose money.

crimsontower5473d ago (Edited 5473d ago )

Sad thing is that the majority of companies make money off selling personal info. These people keep making statements boosting the personal info over the cc breach. I think people should educate themselves on business practices.

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Nitrowolf25474d ago (Edited 5474d ago )

and now we begin the articles of "is it enough?"

also i really wish Sony could make quriocity run ingame, that would be a major reason to sub to it then if they did that.

i'm already a plus user, but 30 days is gonna fly fast

Klaykid1235474d ago

Free 21 (ish) days that you didn't pay for ;)

MysticStrummer5473d ago

We can't know if it's enough yet because Sony said there would be more announcements made about the Welcome Back program. I expect to hear something about compensation for DC Universe and Free Realms users.

omi25p5474d ago

Some people who have lost trust in sony dont want "free gifts" as an apologie they want to be able to trust sony again and no amount of free stuff can gain that trust.

Biggest5473d ago

Because trust is built in 30 minutes.

omi25p5473d ago (Edited 5473d ago )

when did i say trust was built in 30 minutes... Sony cant simply regain peoples trust by giving people free stuff.

Sony had their suspicions that hackers had gotten a hold of peoples bank account details and rather than warn people the moment they had any reason to believe this they waited, hoped and investigated then a week later warned people.

Thats why people lost trust in sony, if sony had warned people earlier it would have given people more of a chance to sort out there bank accounts. Then if there hadnt been any details stolen all the consumer would have lost is a few moments of their time securing their bank accounts, But sony warning its consumers a week later could of caused money being taken from them.

Also its sad to see that 17 people will forgive a company that could of lost them lots of money just because they gave you some free stuff. poor fanboys

BabyTownFrolics5473d ago

dont even try omi25p

I have lost 2 bubbles in the last couple of days just pointing things out using sonys own words. I think the welcome program is nice of sony, they didnt have to do any of this. But being pointing out any negatives about sony is inviting the wrath of certain users here.

I just want all this to be over, so we can move on to something else. I am bored of the sycophants, the fanboys, and the trolls.

Sevir045473d ago

.... child boo! theydidnt handthis over, when it happened they shut down the network andconducted research! you cant make false claims withsomething like this which iswhy you need to be sure! go sit down or go outside! people will never be satisfied! the fact of the real fact of the matter is as long as you post personal info to the internet you are at risk of being hacked and attacked. It isn't sony's fault.

omi25p5473d ago

sevir04, u have just written one of the stupidest comments ive ever read. It made no sense. Good job

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Scyrus5474d ago

more than good enough for me,i honestly just want psn back up so people can play my LBP2 levels lol, but awesome, I will download a bunch of stuff like themes with psn+

question, do Themes Expire once your PSN+ expire? u know the PSN+ exclusive ones?

BrianG5474d ago

Nope, themes, avatars, DLC, and items purchased on discount are there to stay forever.

fedexas5473d ago

Maybe Sony needs a bunch of sacrificial lambs or something. /s

I'm quite content with what they offered because I have PSN+. I think that's fair.

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cannon88005473d ago

Heck yeah! I'm pleased for sure! one month of ps+ Quriosity and free downloads!

Eyeco5473d ago

who cares if its good enough just bring PSN back online for god sake this has gone on long enough, i just wanna play Portal 2 online

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Dart895474d ago

Hellz to the mofo yea, but then again you got the whiners who say where's my cross game chat bla bla be thankful Sony even decided to reward us.Either way i'm happy with what Sony is giving us.

LOGICWINS5474d ago

"I think, at a minimum, Sony should offer 90 days of this service and Qriocity, but even then, I’d like to see some permanent benefits."

I agree, once the 30 month sub is gone I lose all my PS Plus content(except any discounts I get.) Sony DID say they were giving us free downloads...so those will be permanent benefits.

xTruthx5474d ago

^^^^ You don't know what ps+ has huh lol, this guy thinks its only discounts lol

LOGICWINS5474d ago

Well, I know it has themes, avatars, and DLC which I believe is free to keep as well

xTruthx5473d ago (Edited 5473d ago )

Yeah..... cus you asked on another article

http://n4g.com/news/754871/...

LOGICWINS5473d ago

Ummm yeah, because I didn't know. So whats ur point? Anyways, nice to know people r keeping track of my comments :)

xTruthx5473d ago

Not keeping track, just got to go to your comment history and see. My point ? your first reply about how you said

"once the 30 month sub is gone I lose all my PS Plus content(except any discounts I get.)"

You shouldn't post about things you don't know and ask on another thread if what you said was true, other people who don't know might believe it. That's all :)

LOGICWINS5473d ago

^^Like I said, thx for tracking me

solidjun55473d ago (Edited 5473d ago )

"Ummm yeah, because I didn't know. So whats ur point? Anyways, nice to know people r keeping track of my comments :) "

It's nice to know you're so emotional about it dead. :)

I see you working those disagrees on all my comments eh. @_@

solidjun55473d ago

"You shouldn't post about things you don't know and ask on another thread if what you said was true, other people who don't know might believe it. That's all :) "

That's his MO

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awiseman5474d ago (Edited 5474d ago )

We cant say until we find out what the undermined content is. The qriocity is rubbish as well as ths ps+ especially since its temporary..sony is playing you guys...and you refuse to see it...

imo I want a free dlc code for Hoard Its my favorite minigame on psn. If they give that im happy lol

LOGICWINS5474d ago

IMO, they should have just given us $20 PSN credit and let US decide what WE want.

nikoado5473d ago (Edited 5473d ago )

$20*70 million = $1.4 Billion...

I think
1. covering the cost of new credit cards and enrollment in fraud protection programs for customers
2. rebuilding and strengthening their security by working day and night
3. commissioning multiple independent security firms to investigate
4. cooperating fully with law agencies
5. offering PS+ and Quirocity content
6. offering additional free content above that
7. changing their policy so that customers can get their PS wallet refunded if they want to leave

is a pretty reasonable and adequate response considering they have no liability in their TOS.

The only criticism we can reasonably have is initial lack of communication, specifically saying they were aware of issues with the PSN etc. when they themselves brought it down. They could have communicated better there no doubt.

Focker4205474d ago

Giving people free content for a month is 'playing them'...

Riiiiggghhhhtttt... Your logic is flawed.

jizzyjones5474d ago

It doesn't matter if its enough or not as a safe PSN is the priority, although some Uncharted3/Resistance3/inFAMOU S2 beta would of been just lovely. But we may all get that with our free PSN+ anyway.

KillerPwned5474d ago

Here comes another series of articles now...

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Former Xbox Exec Says Developers Didn't Want a Sony Monopoly

Former Xbox executive Ed Fries comments on the early days of Xbox, the opinion of Japanese game companies, and more.

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Reaper22_11d ago

I dont think that'll ever happen. But i must say back in the day, they were definitely trying because they were more cash rich than their competitors.

CosmicTurtle11d ago

I think MS were and still are the richer company. They tried to acquire Sega back in the day (and considered doing so again more recently), they obviously bought exclusivity to Halo which was originally shown as a Mac title. I don’t think as a company MS can claim the moral high ground here. It’s a wilful lack of self awareness.

Of course Sony would try exactly the same if they had the resources, but when the PS2 dominated the industry was in a much healthier place with an abundance of great third parties.

This has been a depressing generation as far as first party decisions are concerned. The fact we are debating business plans rather than which game is better is a sad reflection of the state of things.

Darkseeker11d ago (Edited 11d ago )

There was Nintendo as well, Sony wouldn't have had a monopoly. In fact, the world would be better today if Xbox never existed in the first place. They pretty much brought all bad practices we have today. We might have gotten all of it either way, but not this early. In term of franchises, I don't think there is anything Microsoft released that would actually be missed if it didn't exist. Even Halo the world wouldn't notice if Halo didn't exist.

S2Killinit11d ago

MS was definitely a bad influence on gaming.

raWfodog11d ago

I think almost everyone will agree that a monopoly is not good for the industry. But that being said, the competition needs to be smart and strategic with their business. Simply buying up publishers and traditional third-party studios just to keep them out of the other companies reach is not a sustainable practice. That goes for all parties so don't think I'm just referring to Xbox.

I'm no business guru by any stretch of the imagination but I firmly believe that the best way to drive consumers to your software and hardware is to invest smart in your first-party studios. Give them full support and guidance in making unique, fun games that are only available to play in your ecosystem and the gamers will come.

Reaper22_11d ago (Edited 11d ago )

But first party studios aren't enough. They only make up a small portion of the industry. Without 3rd party there would be no industry for Microsoft or sony.Developing games take time and money and sometimes you gotta make moves to stay competitive.

raWfodog11d ago

Nah, I never said first-party was enough. I said it’s the ‘best way’ to drive gamers to your platform. 3rd-party is a free-for-all and there’s no guarantee that gamers will use your hardware to play the game. If you want to push your own software and/or hardware you need first-party, or at least exclusive deals with third-party studios.

SimpleDad11d ago

They Shure did a great job... 25 years later Xbox is dead.

Reaper22_11d ago

Then why be so emotional and continue to talk about it. Xbox will never die be ause it stays in so many people's head.

lodossrage11d ago

How can you even see him being "emotional" in that comment?

If anything, you're the emotional one, constantly trying to go at anyone that says anything against Microsoft. So when you call him emotional, it comes off as deflection

Elda11d ago

I own an XBSX & I can say it's becoming irrelevant out of the 3 current consoles.

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Sony Shows Off 20 Minutes of Crimson Desert on a Base PS5

Sony uploaded gameplay footage of Crimson Desert on a base PS5 running in what appears to be Quality Mode at a stable 30fps at 4K.

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BlazedKong37d ago

looks god awful on the base systems

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PS5 Sales Pass 92.2 Million Units, Beating Nintendo Switch 2 in the Holiday Quarter

Sony announced its financial results for the third quarter of fiscal year 2025, alongside the traditional update on PS5 shipments.

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italiangamer79d ago

Sony and Nintendo are both thriving and I'm happy, thank goodness for them or otherwise the whole gaming industry would be in shambles if they only had PC to rely on!

dveio79d ago

• Total G&NS revenue: 10.5 billion USD
• Operating profit: 900 million USD
• Hardware sales: 8M units shipped
• Software sales: 97M units
• PSN MAU: 132M

vs. Xbox:

• Total gaming revenue: 5.96 billion USD
• nothing else gets reported

__y2jb79d ago

Xbox operating costs are without a doubt eye wateringly high, way way way higher than Sony. GP is costing them an absolute fortune to operate.

Tapani79d ago

That is a very solid operating profit. It's not net, obviously, but still a very healthy amount of cash you make after cost of debt and taxes (+ other expenses), and can invest into R&D and future endeavours. And give back to your shareholders or buy back shares.

DivineHand12579d ago

It would be in Sony's beat interest to not rush next generation. Let 2029 or 2030 be the start of next generation. There is clearly plenty of demand for the PS5 and gamers are not asking for more at this time.

S2Killinit79d ago

Yup especially with the price of tech going up. They already have the PRO to hold them over.

__y2jb79d ago (Edited 79d ago )

Exactly this. Let Xbox wither on the vine for a couple more years and there will be nothing left.

fr0sty79d ago

I fully agree for 2 reasons:

1. Microsoft seems to be in a hurry to release the new Xbox, if they do at all... AMD speculates a 2027 release. This will hurt them in the long run, because:

2. Datacenters are buying up ALL the RAM, and some RAM manufacturers have stopped making RAM for consumer products entirely, while the other remaining ones are scared to ramp up their production capacity to make more RAM because they're worried this whole AI thing is a bubble that is about to pop, and they don't want to be caught holding the bag when it does pop. So, for now, it costs $300-400 for 32GB of DDR5. That's the MSRP for some entire consoles.

If Microsoft drops the new Xbox now, it's going to cost them a fortune. If Sony holds their cards a moment and lets PS5 cook for a while, as it's showing no signs whatsoever of slowing down in sales, then by the time PS6 is ready to drop, RAM prices should have stabilized, allowing Sony to devote much more of their budget towards making PS6's CPU and GPU more powerful, in addition to the tech itself maturing and the available CPU and GPU parts being much more powerful for the same price point than they would be if released today. So, we'd get a super powerful PS6 in say, 2029, that won't have to cost $700-800. They speculate, based on the current specs, that the new Xbox will cost north of $1,000, and that was before the RAM shortage came into the picture. It's definitely going to be even higher now that RAM costs so much.

MS will be shooting themselves in the foot (again) if they try to drop a new Xbox now, and Sony would be wise to capitalize on that mistake by holding their cards a while longer, raking in more of those PS5 profits, and then dropping a new console as soon as the hardware market stabilizes from this AI datacenter BS.

darthv7279d ago

7 years is a hurry...? Its the same amount of time between XBO and series. The same amount of time between PS3 to PS4 and PS4 to PS5. The 360 was 8 years between it and XBO.

If they do release first, and then Sony a year or two later... is it not possible for prices to come down in that time?

repsahj79d ago (Edited 79d ago )

I think Switch 2 beat PS5 during December 2025 that is why the gap decrease to 1m units. Because during black friday, I know PS5 sales is 2:1 against the Switch 2.

And I just want to add that the PlayStation 5 is currently 1.94 million units BEHIND the PlayStation 4 when you align launches. While Switch 2 is 10M ahead against the Switch 1 when you aligned covering it's first 7 months.

S2Killinit79d ago

I think you are forgetting to mention the chip shortages for PS5.

salis84479d ago (Edited 79d ago )

No one wants the Switch 2 to do badly.

PS5 being less than 2m behind PS4 is not a big deal; PS5 had to deal with COVID and ongoing supply and pricing struggles that clearly still exist today. Sales of software are incredibly strong, and the size of the community is bigger than its ever been.

PS5 is well on pace to exceed its early (2021) estimates of 110m by end of life even if that's 2027. PS5 will hit 100m before November and then sell another 6-8M in November + December.

PS5 is doing great, and so is Switch 2, it's good for everyone that they succeed, pitting the two against each other is more damaging than anything related to the sales of the two consoles individually.

repsahj79d ago

"No one wants the Switch 2 to do badly."

majority on this site tells otherwise.

Dexterio79d ago

@repsahj
Yup because they’ve been the anti consumer they are for so long and needs to be humbled 😆

CrashMania79d ago (Edited 79d ago )

I'd be lying if I said I didn't regret my purchase a bit. I mainly bought it for Mario Kart World, but I find it pales in comparison to 8. I'm annoyed that Nintendo charged money for a super barebones 'upgrade' to Jamboree, no new minigames? No new boards? Just some gimmicky low res camera mode. Oh and Midtroid Prime 4 let me down as well, yet to go back and finish it.

I don't want the Switch 2 to fail, it's contributing to a healthier console market with the death of xbox consoles. I'll get use out of mine long term, but some of Nintendo's decisions like the ones above just annoy me lol.

jznrpg79d ago

@respahj the only thing I want Nintendo to badly is the 80$ games so they lower the price.

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