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Does the Xbox 360 need cloud storage?

Now that Sony have implemented a cloud storage system, is it time for Microsoft to follow suit with the Xbox 360?

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DaThreats5551d ago

If they do, they will increase the price of XBL Gold

yen8885551d ago

it's a good point, Microsoft are always looking to get the most money out of people

darthv725551d ago

they already have. You can buy stuff from the marketplace through a pc and then download it to your 360 or a friends 360 if you sign in as yourself. Your achievements and friends list are all attached to the gamertag, not the console.

Game saves would be nice to upload but I would think it is just quicker and more convenient to have your profile on a thumbdrive. I do and I will take my profile from one 360 to another and download a game I bought and play it from anywhere. With the exception of having to download the game on another 360, i keep my saves with me at all times.

Now if sony had autosync then we are talking. You play a game and get to a certain point. You save/upload the save to your psn profile. Go to a friends house with the game (or download the game through psn profile on their ps3) and get your save from your psn profile. Get further in the game and it autosaves your progress changes to the cloud version so you dont have to remember to do it yourself.

That would be nice.

Biggest5551d ago

How did you just spin the question to more suggestions for the PS3, which already has cloud storage? You're cool with the 360 not having it at all, but you also expect more from the PS3 which actually has the feature.

gamingdroid5551d ago

because maybe having the feature doesn't necessarily mean it is as useful as one would like it.

MintBerryCrunch5551d ago

don't forget the adapter!! how would it work w/o one :D

Venatus-Deus5551d ago

@gamingdroid

But not having the feature is better?

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B1663r5551d ago

For a few saves??? I think not, my game saves are not that important, but I havent lost any in 5 years now...

Venatus-Deus5551d ago

Think of cloud storage as insurance.

You never know when you will need it, but you thank fuck you have it when you do.

Megaton5551d ago

I wish more games utilized Steam Cloud.

Aarix5551d ago

Or extend the value of the current subscription

TomInc5551d ago

Sony's cloud service isnt all the great anyway! For starts limiting it to subscribers of Playstation Plus just moves further towards an Xbox Live style.. and the lack of subscription was always something that made Playstations online kick Xbox's ass!

SnakeMustDie5551d ago

I hope that Sony keeps the online play free and those awesome features like Cloud available only to Plus subscribers.

yen8885551d ago

Do you think Plus is too expensive for what it is? £40 a year for a couple of free games and 150MB of space?

TomInc5551d ago

I dont think the limitation comes with its cost. I think to a certain extent it could do with more space and some other features. But at the same time it's jsut early days and I'd hope sony so develop it a lot. Playstation Plus itself is good for the content a lot more rewarding than Xbox Live, which is a plus.. I just think opening the cloud to a wider basis would be cool, even if it was just on different levels.

Lou-Cipher5551d ago (Edited 5551d ago )

PlayStation Plus is well worth the money, Im actually suprised at how much stuff you get with the $50 price tag.

I have at least 20+ games free/15+ Dynamic Themes free/20+ Regular Themes free/Big discounts on games and DLC and many other features. Plus all the other stuff that is either free or discounted, plus the early access to demos and other stuff.

I spend $50 on a service that has literaly saved me hundreds of dollars.(and I haven't even used the the full 13 months yet) The only time Microsoft gives away free stuff is if your 360 blows up and burns down your house. I recently stopped paying for Xbox Live (Gold) because it really has no value (exept for X game chat)when compared to PS Plus.

darthv725551d ago

The amount of stuff you get free with psn isnt really free. Its free for the length of your membership. Cancel at any time but you dont get to keep the free gifts. The only stuff you are guaranteed to keep are items you bought at a discounted price.

Funny thing is that once you sign up it shows sony that people are willing to pay for the service. At least MS had a paying service from the beginning and added a free component to the service. Not hiding anything there. Sony has the potential to start dwindling down things that are really free if it feels they can make $$ off it. Like members only content for games.

Being a free member and you buy a new game only to find that while you can play online...you cant play online in the same tracks, levels, maps, etc that are deemed "members only". I dont blame sony for cashing in on the membership side of things. After all...there have to be some things that make the service worth paying for. You have to have that feeling of worth to make it as if you are above the rest who are just a bunch of freeloaders.

They had to start off free to get people interested in it. Now they have moved into the same strategy as any other membership service. Find ways to get more members. When you have signed up a member...you give them stuff to keep them a member.

winflasher05551d ago

@darth.The things you get from PS Plus you get to keep even if you cancel. Free means something has no cost. Spin it all you want but the free things you get from PS plus you get to keep.

blackpanther255551d ago

@Darth
Dude what are you saying the only point of psn+ is services and content cause playing online is free without paying......so if they were to theoretically ever start to dwindle on service then people will leave cause that is the whole point of psn+ from the beginning.......its not like people are forced to continue to pay to play online

darthv725551d ago (Edited 5551d ago )

that is news to me. They must have changed their ToC. It was my understanding that the free games are free for the extent of your membership. You renew...you keep on playing that game. You cancel, that game or other free content becomes invalid. If that is no longer the case, then i will sign up.

Also, to be honest, free doesnt always mean what we think it means. Sometimes there are conditions. Free for a ltd time. Free while supplies last. Free for as long as you are a member. Those are just a few marketing examples still in use today by businesses.

edit: @black "its not like people are forced to continue to pay to play online" that remains to be seen. I dont want to ever see that happen on psn but there is just to much temptation for sony not to make a little $$$ off the service by way of exclusive game content and play modes. That includes online. If they came out and said we are having an exclusive members only tournament in gt5 do you think non members would be upset at not being able to participate?

Sony knows when and where to stike when it comes to manipulating their service. If they want to start have members only areas in home, they will do it. Same goes for any of their high profile games. I never said online play would NOT remain free. I am simply saying what could happen with creating more relevance to the service for paid members.

If I were a paid member, I would like it if there were exclusive game maps or tracks to play in that the freebies cant. It certainly would make the service worth more to me.

FFXI1015551d ago (Edited 5551d ago )

"Cancel at any time but you dont get to keep the free gifts"

Wrong, we get to keep everything. Games, themes(or dynamic themes), avatars. It only means the game that were FREE won't work but you can still use theme, avatars.

"Its free for the length of your membership"

What services aren't like like? Can you continue to use Netflix or GameFly or your internet connection if you STOP paying them?
At least peopl can still playing games ONLINE even if they don't want to buy PLUS.

"At least MS had a paying service from the beginning and added a free component to the service. Not hiding anything there"

When did Sony HIDE it? Jack Tretton SAID it during the E3 conference last year and many magzine and website have post the info of PS plus. If people don't know that only means two things, they are either ignorant or too lazy to check/research it.

"Being a free member and you buy a new game only to find that while you can play online...you cant play online in the same tracks, levels, maps, etc that are deemed
members only"

That's funy cause if this was a problem to you how come I don't see you complain about XBL's services? cause if you aren't a gold member you CAN'T play online with your friends, you CAN't use most XBL features whereas PSN let you do all those things WITHOUT PAYING and I don't know where you get the "Can't play the same tracks, lvls, maps thing" It has nothing to do with the Plus, you just have to play or buy the DLC like everyone else.

SlyFoxC5551d ago

@ Win

everything purchased with PlayStation Plus, and yes even if it says "FREE" it is still a purchase, is only able to be used while you have a current subscription to PS+. As soon as you cancel your subscription you lose all access to anything you got from PlayStation Plus.

(on a side note, buying the DLC for a discounted price isnt part of that deal. so people dont worry about not being able to play your dlc that you got for 20% off if you cancel. Only games you got "FREE" from PlayStation Plus are unavailable after you cancel.)

TheDivine5551d ago

cloud saves are not AWESOME lol. Wow i have 320 gb harddrive but i can save a few games that take up 20mb to the cloud? WHO CARES? If sony saved my profile to the cloud so i could use my content and saves on my friends ps3 that would be cool.

darthv725551d ago

"Once downloaded, the games are yours to keep and play as long as you are a member of PlayStation Plus. If your subscription lapses and then you re-subscribe, the games you have already downloaded will reactivate, so you still have access to them. Additionally, if you delete one of the titles from your PS3, but decide you want to get it back, then you can re-download from the PlayStation Plus section of the PSN Store if the game is still there, or, if the game has expired from the PlayStation Plus section of the PSN Store, you can simply search for it on PS Store and download it again at no extra cost."

This is from the PS blog about the Plus service. So far it has been the costco of online services. I would actually like it if sony had some members only maps in KZ3 or tracks in GT5. It would give the service more worth to those who pay. Otherwise they see the free people playing in the same games as them and they will wonder why they are paying. It cant just be for the discounts.

DFresh5551d ago

I'm pretty sure the basic online will always remain free it's just if you desperately want those extra features PS Plus seems like the way to go.

Hell I'm surprised Microsoft doesn't allow users to play the basic online with a Silver Membership and just offer the extra crap if you want to sign up as a Gold member.
(I'll never understand it.)

Daoshai5551d ago

Way to prove them wrong darth

And you still got all the disagrees. I thought everyone knew that about PSN plus, but I guess not.

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Masterchef20075551d ago

Multiplayer in PSN will always be free. Remember this is Sony not Microsoft.

Daoshai5551d ago

I'll wager anything that next generation your statement is not true.

Masterchef20075551d ago (Edited 5551d ago )

It will still be true because Sony has raked in a lot of people into PSN because of its free online. And i still expect it to be free in the future.

People will expect PSN to be free and so it shall remain free. Theres no point in charging to play online. However there will be a plus service that will provide many benefits.

Daoshai5550d ago

like I said, I will wager ANYTHING your wrong.

Masterchef20075550d ago

Ok How about your life? The one who looses has to slit his wrists with razor blades and to prove it you have to do it via a web cam.

LOL im just kidding. But you will never be right you know. Only Microsoft is capable of charging you to play online with a P2P based system.

That is why PSN is free to play online. Because it is a open network with an online system similar to those on PCs.

If they charge for PSN devs will charge for PC as well.

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Bleucrunch5551d ago

Dude have you ever used storage before?? It cost MONEY to implement things like that bro...how are they suppose to support that infrastructure and maintain it so it is always accessible and working without any funds?? For what you get with Plus it is well worth the price...If M$ does the same then I would hope they wouldn't need to up the price of the service for it..but then again M$ still hasn't been able to justify the cost of live to me anyways..but that is just me.

Aarix5551d ago

Dude they have sky drive they could integrate that into xbl

Dan_Vivian5551d ago

Cloud based systems can be useful, but you have to have the bandwidth to go along with it. It don't really see it as being an issue as both consoles come with pretty adequate space now anyway.

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MaximusPrime5551d ago

good idea for people with old xbox 360 on a verge of RRoD

yen8885551d ago

couldn't they just use a usb stick though?

MaximusPrime5551d ago

could do. people have choices to make. on usb, external hdd or cloud storage

killcycle5551d ago

You can't copy copying-prohibited data via usb.
You can via Cloud storage.

DavidBaller5551d ago

Cloud backups would have saved my life when mine died =/ Oh well!

Aarix5551d ago

I accidentally clicked "delete profile and items" and was 20 hours in ff13

sethbalmore5550d ago

"good idea for people with old xbox 360 on a verge of RRoD"

durr...

RROD doesn't effect the HDD at all

SeanScythe5551d ago

Works good for me when I have saves that I can't back up to USB.

SMOK3xFFx5551d ago

Noone NEEDS cloud storage, it would be a welcome addition however.

killcycle5551d ago (Edited 5551d ago )

I NEEDED it. Because i could not copy my Copying-prohibited Data without it unless i brought another ps3 and done a full ps3 to ps3 back up.

FFXI1015551d ago

I agree, I lost my Rainbow six 2 save because I couldn't transfer it to the USB drive so I lost the progress(same as Dragon Age saved data)

Now have the cloud storage I won't have to worry about losing it, so is a NEEDED feature to ME.

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Microsoft Gaming Revenue Drops 7% Year-on-Year, Content and Services Down 5%, Xbox Hardware Down 33%

Microsoft announced its financial results for Q3 of fiscal year 2026, including an update on its gaming Xbox business and more.

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Jin_Sakai28d ago (Edited 28d ago )

Not looking good. Hopefully Asha Sharma is able to turn Phil’s disaster around.

dveio28d ago

To me it's still quite remarkable how they can cash-in 5.3bn in revenue in a single quarter, since their hardware is basically dead.

Jingsing28d ago

The stock mark is what makes Microsoft remarkable, They have convinced every institutional and retail investor to just keep piling money into them. Like many big tech giants they are just a big growing pyramid scheme. As long as people keep dropping money into ETF's that cover the market Microsoft will always be liquid. At the same time it is completely stifling innovation and competition. People need to start being more discreet in how they invest their money as it's killing the system.

Tanktopmaster9228d ago

Once they re-evaluate exclusive all will be fine….

S2Killinit28d ago

Riiiiight because people will just flock back to them for one or two games per year.

Jingsing28d ago

15+ years of bad performance is what they call irreparable in business. It is time for them to sell off the assets and get out of entertainment.

Tanktopmaster9227d ago

These declines are on the back of extra revenue received from releasing games like Forza horizon 5 on PlayStation. So I’m being sarcastic here when I said they should go back to exclusives. Killing off a revenue stream from Ps5 sales will only make things worse

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(For Southeast Asia) New Price Changes for PS5, PS5 Pro, and PlayStation Portal remote player

For Southeast Asia, new price changes.

Prices effective starting May 1st, 2026.

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BeHunted30d ago

Looks like PlayStation took a hit with Marathon and is now quietly adjusting prices worldwide to recover the losses

andy8530d ago

Lets be honest raising prices doesn't do that when no one's buying it. I imagine the profit it greater selling 10 times more at a lower price

Pergele30d ago

Whatever you say buddy, let's all wear the tinfoil hats.

IceKoldKilla29d ago (Edited 29d ago )

LMFAO Your comment alone says a lot more about you than anything else. When has one game not selling 10 million copies made a company raise the prices of their console? Then Xbox would be costing $5000 by now lol. You remind of the crazy drug addicts on the street rambling on about conspiracies. xD You sure you don't need a hug, buddy?

ChunkyMonk29d ago

One game that Sony payed $200 million for. lol
Also, you sure were quick to get triggered. Maybe your the one who needs a hug?

Eonjay29d ago

If nothing else, we should be united against the real issue here. AI and unnecessary tariffs that are effecting all gamers.

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Athlon10130d ago (Edited 30d ago )

The price increases are due to the RAM demand associated with AI and the US-Iran war. You can look to any business news website and local news to see that. Heck, even the 2026 Asus Zenbook Duo I've been eyeing has faced delays and has had a price increase of $400; that laptop has two specs. Asus is doing a staggered release with per-orders for the lower spec now and shipping in May and pre-orders for the higher spec that I'm eyeing starting in June. Basically, all computer manufactures are affected. It'll most likely start affecting smart phones too if it hasn't already. I can't remember the last time any major console maker (Nintendo, Sony, Sega, etc) increased the price of their console mid cycle outside of Microsoft just to make more profit.

S2Killinit29d ago

Its not the war. Its the RAM issue.

jznrpg29d ago

War is causing gas prices to rise. Transport of everything requires gas so the prices of those items go up as well. So it does have an impact

Athlon10129d ago (Edited 29d ago )

The blockage of the Straight of Hormuz due to the US-Iran war has affected raw components used in semi-conductor manufacturing such as bromine, aluminum, and helium. Iran had attacked the liquified natural gas (LNG) plant in Qatar which is a large producer (1/3 globally) of helium which is used in semiconductor etching. So it's the both the war and the RAM crises.

badz14930d ago

Oh no...should I get the Pro now before the price increase?

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Xbox boss Asha Sharma has discussed how component shortages will impact the company's plans for Project Helix.

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Eonjay29d ago

When does this end? Its killing everyone. Consoles and PC. And for what? AI? The benefits of AI are completely outweighed by the negatives. And the government should have never allowed one company to buy up all the RAM.

Lexreborn230d ago

This kind of proves this is an after thought product, most products like this are in r&d 5 years before they start mass producing. So they typically have the cost of components and things worked out long before assembly starts.

This is an assumption still, but I wouldn’t be surprised if project helix is similar to Scalebound,perfect dark and sod3. They had an idea but no actual execution other than concept stage. Being impacted by the ram shortage likely would also put this device 3-4 years out.

I’m not even sure MS has that endurance with Xbox yet

Fishy Fingers30d ago (Edited 30d ago )

I mean.... what?

We're at a point that Samsung wont even provide their own phone department ram because they can sell it at higher prices to 3rd parties (AI). Its more profitable to sell the ram than make their own devices with it.

You think because R&D starts 5 years ago the 3rd party component manufacturers will honour that price? They'll sell it to whomever is paying the most today, not some gentlemens agreement they made years ago. AI farms will buy more volume at higher prices than any console manufacturer will. It'll be the same for Playstation.

Lexreborn229d ago

Contractual agreements are not the same as “gentlemen” agreements. If you think that they work with their distributors a month before production then their entire business model is trash. They work with companies like nvidia constantly for building the graphics cards they need. They work with companies that build motherboards years in advance. This is what proper business planning does.

They are not buying components on a whim like a consumer. So again, considering the ram isn’t a singular module and is integrated into the motherboard I highly doubt they wouldn’t have a final schematic that they are supposed to be building around.

If they are delaying production another 3 years then it’s obvious again this is an after though project and is just trying to be responsive to their bad execution they had the last 14 years.

It also isn’t far fetched to use their failure to produce first party titles the last 7 years including the highly anticipated games I mentioned all being cancelled. That they would continue to you know… lie

Sitdown30d ago

You don't really know how this works huh?

Profchaos30d ago (Edited 30d ago )

Helix is going to be stupidly expensive

Instead of leaning into smarter upscaling techniques they're brute forcing hardware that will cost them dearly and it remains to be seen if it's genuinely going to provide a meaningful differential

I know in the oc.doace people like to brag about not using frame gen or dlss to get to high on a game but for the majority of players they happily use those technologies without a second thought

That's going to be ps6 vs Helix

Eonjay29d ago

Yeah with FSR 5 they should be able to offer a much cheaper version of Helix.

Eonjay29d ago

While this does seem to be the case, I am encouraged by the statement from Microsoft about wanting to provide affordable options. If this means a Series S style Helix, at least there will be something affordable being offered.

XBManiac29d ago

Series S is what has killed Xbox Series so... Will they dare?

blacktiger30d ago

It's called systematic inflationary. Yes we get it Microsoft, keep raising in the name ofall kinds of stuffs

pwnmaster300030d ago

Honestly if there was thing I learned from this generation is that new consoles arnt day one anymore.
I can wait 1-3 years.

DarXyde30d ago

Another important lesson from this generation: while Nintendo showed us that prices don't necessarily need to ever drop, we've now learned that waiting 1-3 years does carry some risk that prices increase. This generation is just bizarre in all the wrong ways.

LucasRuinedChildhood30d ago (Edited 30d ago )

The factors are largely external. Covid and Russia-Ukraine war causing inflation led to the first price increase in 2022.

Then we get Trump's tariffs increasing hardware prices, AI boom causing a RAM crisis, war on Iran causing a worldwide fuel crisis which impacts the cost of everything.

Gaming doesn't exist in a vacuum. The last few years have been a shitshow and lot of it was definitely avoidable.

DarXyde29d ago

LucasRuinedChildhood,

For sure. No disagreement on the external factors doing a lot of this. Where I have to gently push back however is on two fronts:

1. The pandemic definitely caused some issues: asynchronous development was a big issue and really complicated timelines and affected game quality. At the same time, when it comes to price hikes, it's really difficult to know what was genuine necessity and what was taking consumers for a ride. The pandemic brought about "stag-flation" which was increasing prices and stagnant wages, which was a problem caused by supply chain constraints. There was also "Greed-flation", where companies that were slightly affected or had no issues took advantage of the situation and squeezed everyone citing supply chain issues when there were none.

2. It's definitely true that the tariffs, AI boom, and RAM crisis were all things enabled by tech broligarchs throwing money at this caricature of a world leader, one of them being Satya Nadella. I don't think Sony and Nintendo have contributed much to this problem if at all, but Microsoft's Nadella I feel was instrumental in causing every one of those issues. Microsoft as a company contributed to both candidates (though they gave Harris 4x as much if I recall), but Nadella was all in on letting AI run wild. He paid for unregulated AI, and got a war that's not a war (even though Trump called it that at least five times on television) that screwed up helium access. So for me, I feel that one of the players in the gaming industry is a key architect of these issues, and for that reason I struggle a bit to think of it as "external".

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