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What's Wrong With Killzone 3 Multiplayer

A game with as many bugs as Killzone 3 should never get a 9 or 10 review score. No website should give any game that requires this much fixing a high score. Apparently there are many people who actually believe that the multiplayer mode is fine. Lets take a look at why they are wrong.

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dangert125473d ago

I love kz3

But
- spawn kills...at the very start of the game(spawning enemy's behind you) is a piss take

- inconsistant hit detection i hate firing my gun then thrwing snow balls at an opponet for him to put on shot in me and i die and its not a head shot(i was being extra with the snow balls part) but sometimes it does feel like your throwing everything at them

-the balance of the noob classes or lack of
*marksman (we all no abwt the complaints here so im nt gna)
*infiltrator...a rocket launcher ? run behind enemy lines blended in and spam rockets

joing games with less then 5 mins left

not being able to join games as the world is fuul

ribbons not showing up on your stat screen after getting them a gizzilion times

and after all that it suprisingly is a fun addictive game :')

Eyeco5473d ago

unbalanced multiplayer, lack of content, NO custom games seriously Guerrilla games its the year 2011 not 2002 how does the multiplayer not have custom games ?

-Alpha5473d ago (Edited 5473d ago )

It's coming via patch.

Everybody knows how I dislike certain things and how I am disappointed with what it lacks in, but I also love it a lot despite my complaints. One thing I wouldn't call Killzone is buggy. It has networking issues, yes, but nothing that isn't being worked out. And personally I've had a smooth experience.

It's so difficult to judge opinion pieces but most of them are garbage. Every time I read something submitted to N4G I always assume it's with the intention to make it to the top of the newsboard. And when you label something an opinion piece it almost always gets through because what can it ever be reported for? I'm finding that a lot of websites are beginning to pick up on this and are submitting flamebait topics this way. I've seen so many "Where are all the 360 exclusives" for example, and it always gets hits.

The same person that reviewed K3 and wrote this opinion piece reviewed Black Ops and gave it a higher score. And it is a matter of fact that Black Ops has more issues with its game than Killzone.

Sorry, just smells like major flamebait to me. Not to say Killzone doesn't deserved to be judged before COD, but must every opinion piece a website has be glorified through N4G?

Eyeco5473d ago

i realized there is an incoming Patch but like i said in previous articles a developer shouldn't have to send a patch to give gamers a feature that is so common in FPS something that has been common for YEARS

and whether the reviewer gave BO a higher score doesn't mean anything especially seeing as so many other gaming sites have given BO a higher score than KZ3 (gamespot, ign, g4, gametrailers)

RedDead5472d ago

I would like Co-op multi online aswell....Just saying that's become a standard nowadays.

Heavy_Rain5472d ago (Edited 5472d ago )

@Eyeco - What??? Didnt ign give 8.5 for BO as well and didnt KZ3 get 9.4 from GT. Dont know what you are saying

NewMonday5472d ago

Main problems I have is from player attitudes, tired of me the only one picking tactician, worse is I don't get points from kills in my raidar

BattleAxe5472d ago

The lack of content is what I don't like the most. If I didn't like the graphics and the campaign as much as I do, I would have traded it in just like I traded in BC2 for having a poor amount of content.

jjohan355472d ago

The incoming patch, as posted on Killzone forums by developers, will address network issues, features in interface, and subtle features in gameplay. The patch does NOT address class balancing issues. Right now the Marksman and Infiltrator are vastly overpowered. I can't decide which is worse, invis + sniping = camping or invis + 2nd primary weapon (assault rifle) = camping. I am getting very tired of maps in which snipers pretty much camp at open doorways, aiming down long corridors or alleys the entire map.

Infiltrator is also overpowered with the ridiculous masking + speed. I love KZ3, it fixed a lot of issues I had with KZ2. While new patches will certainly add much needed features such as clan support, squad support, and multiplayer loading fixes, they seriously need to fix the class balances. The medic is currently useless while everyone else is playing Marksman and/or Infiltrator.

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NanoSoldier5472d ago

Hi, I bought a PS3 Slim today and Killzone 3 and Homefront. What is wrong with KZ3 Multiplayer :( ???

thisguywithhair5472d ago

Unless you meant you preordered Homefront because it doesn't come out for almost a week now.

darx5472d ago

Really, I am picking up Homefront instead of KZ3. Hope there isn't any problems with that online but I am sure there will be.

sinncross5472d ago

I want 2 player split-screen support like R2 and Black Ops

:)

cyborg69715472d ago

The only thing wrong with this game is that it's not killzone two.

LiL T5472d ago

Yes that and the fact that no one does team work in warzone. Like most here I play tact and switch to engineer cause everbody needs ammo. My other prob is medics that run past injured players. Other than that is good for me as long as I get a team that doesn't care about K/D and care about objectives.

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Nate-Dog5473d ago

I haven't had any bugs or glitches myself so far (mind you I know a few people that have had problems, seems to me to be a few problems in connecting people together who have different NAT types). But every big-release game has problems on its multiplayer side of things. Look at the last few CoD games, I don't think any of them have had a problem-free and completely successful first week, it takes a while because they have to adjust the servers to withstand the amount of players playing and trying to connect to each other.

Disagree about the replay mode too. It can be good but you're saying that any multiplayer shooter that doesn't have a replay theatre fails and only mention 2 that currently have them?

I agree about the map limitations though, particularly about the lack of a custom/private games function (which Guerilla said they'd patch in in a few weeks after release, but I mean c'mon, that sort of thing needs to be in at the start, especially in a game that claims to have a large focus on clans). Plus releasing DLC with this and that edition on day one irritated me. I bought this to play with friends, nice and simple. Then I realise some have DLC maps, and some don't, and on day one of the EU release Guerilla outline their first DLC package. C'mon, if you're already bringing out DLC that early (even before the game is out) then you can either include it with every game or release it for free.

dangert125473d ago

yeah lack of custom gams hurt me :'(
i have a friend who noobs the marksman class and has a better K/D R the me so i want to rape him in a 1 on 1

i use the tactician,engineer,and medic and have not touched the over 2 classes where as he has ranked up with
the sniper and infiltrator first blatently with noob tactics as he never plays as good with the other less noob friendly classes

Nate-Dog5473d ago

Yeah I took a while to find a class that worked for me but Tactician is my favourite now. The recon perk is great for your team especially when you're in a small map or in a certain area you want to take or defend, and the ability to see enemies in your range with the other perk works great for me too since I try and stick around with teammates. The first gun too is good at short and long ranges I think so I just use that. Haven't even tried recon but I was in a game last week where one guy ended up on 46-0, he literally sat in one building for the about 25 minutes of the whole game sniping and refused to move. -__-

dead_eye5472d ago

It is all about finding the right class for your style of play. I can't seem to play as a tactician at all. I do play well as a marksman. As long as you play the objectives shouldn't matter what class you use.

I really miss the long games from k2.

dangert125473d ago

Tactician was my favourite class in kz 2 was in 3 for abit but now im really diggin the engineer as i trust myself to put up ammo creates around the map and can play offensive with the sta11 or defend and area with turrets and c4

add me on psn you sound like a good team player

psn id: greazy91

Focker4205473d ago

*reads article*
*Looks at the flaws in nearly every other FPS*

You were saying??? Every game has some minor issues in one way or another. No game is 100% perfect. Quit with the double standards. Just because every tiny thing isn't to your liking doesn't mean its not a 9/10 or even a 10/10 for someone else. If your going to bitch about all the small flaws in one game, then I had better see you do it for every single other game.

BX815472d ago

10/10, really? A game with bugs can be considered a 10/10 for you? Listen KZ3 has problems in single player and MP. Relax sweetie. Just because you like KZ3 you don't have to get all upset about it. Try going to the KZ website and looking up some of the issues others are having. No game gets a 10/10 unless it's perfect thus the rating system. I would give KZ3 A 7.5/10 at best.

Focker4205472d ago

Did I say I'd give KZ3 a 10/10?? No. I'd personally give it a 9/10 because there are a few minor flaws but the game is excellent overall. What I'm saying is what we see as flaws may not bother someone else. So in their mind the games a 10/10.

I'm a frequent visitor the KZ3 forums and yes there are so many whiners its unreal. There are some legitimate concerns with the game, some that I share but the majority of them I don't.

I'm just saying if you're going to go out of your way to make an article to nitpick a game to death, then I should see one for every other FPS. They all have problems so why just choose this one?? None of the problems he mentioned were game breaking, and most are being fixed in the next patch.

BX815472d ago

Why pick this one? Because it just came out. Every major title goes through the same amount of crap. The difference between titles like KZ, Halo, Gears etc. is they are supposed to be the cream of the crop. If your main titles have this many problems upon release imagine what the rest of the library has in store. You're right it'll be patched but it's that same thinking oh well well patch it later that lets devs put out crap. Perfect example is Gears 2 online. An incoming patch is no reason to turn a blind eye to a games flaws. Game breaking? Hit detection in a shooter won't ruin it correct? Try sniping through a tiny crack and let me know what happens. Clear line of sight doesn't matter in shooters though.

metsgaming5473d ago

i hate the ememies that are invisible and that seemed to be on your team and arent. If those were removed the game would be more balanced.

bacano5472d ago (Edited 5472d ago )

Just when I've got a good kill streak and trying to go slow and not to screw it up... a f**ng marksman "appears" in front of me.

I usually play as engineer and tactician, and sometimes as an infiltrator. no problem with this class (actually, I like its faster sprint), you can easily detect infiltrators and it's fun, IMO.

blackburn55472d ago

You know what amazes me. I agree that KZ3 has a few flaws(that are being patched). But why is it that PS3 games treated this way. All the time FPSs before KZ3 are given perfect scores. Then months later after the game makes millions then articles appear talking about all the problems the game had.

KZ3 is torn apart from the starting gate and expected to be perfect. Why is it expected to set the standard? Why suddenly this nonsense about games like this should never get perfect scores? Where were these kind of articles when we were counting the glitches and hacks in MW2 or the broken MP in other shooters? Did that stop the perfect scores? No. Suddenly KZ3 is the pariah of FPSs because the MP has a some annoying problems just like any other MP shooter has right off the bat.

lee_ten5472d ago

you don't understand. it's a ps3. it needs to be picked apart. the call of duty series can have these issues and still be a 9/10 game.

it's double standards and it's pathetic.

The_Ultimate_Guy5472d ago (Edited 5472d ago )

Call of Duty 2 - 89
Call of Duty Black Ops - 87
Call of Duty World at War - 84
Call of Duty 3 - 83

Only COD games that got 94 on meta were COD 4 and MW 2.

Killzone 2 has a 91 on meta.

So out of the whole COD games that have been released this year, COD has 1 more game in the 90's than the KZ franchise, and that's because there are much more COD games released this gen.

http://www.metacritic.com/s...

Know what you're talking about before you make typical Sony Supportive ignorant comments. The COD franchise DIDN'T get a "free pass" as many of you Sony sheep like to proclaim.

lee_ten5472d ago (Edited 5472d ago )

The_Ultimate_Guy: please point out an article where ANY reviewer pointed out glitches for the call of duty series. point out any article that complained about the multiplayer aspect of those games.

go on, i'm waiting.

and by the way, i am not talking about metacritic. i'm talking about sites that gave the cod games 9's and 10's individually.

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piroh463d ago

There's too many games to choose from

No Metal geat solid 1,2,3,4?
No Resident evil?
No Silent hill?
No Midnight club 3?
No NfS Underground 2?
No Final Fantasy?
No Burnout 3?
No Dragon quest 8?
No Days gone?
No Ace combat?
No Tekken/Soul calibur?......
just from the top of my head

PS1 era was full of great RPGs, PS2 was racing generation i would pick top 200 and even that would be just a fraction.

FinalFantasyFanatic463d ago

30 is way too low over the entire history of Playstation, I just wouldn't be able to narrow it down that much, I would pick 100 at least.

Storm23463d ago

Yeah...really odd list. I get that it is personal preference and I love most of the games listed, but my list would definitely be different. I agree though, it would be incredibly difficult to come up with just 30.

lockedongamer1463d ago (Edited 463d ago )

I only picked first-party titles. Otherwise, I agree!

EDIT: Except for Days Gone, I don't get the love for it but you do you!

Chocoburger453d ago

I didn't like Days Gone either, it doesn't deserve to be on any best of list.

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20 Years of Guerrilla: The Story of a PlayStation Studio

The Amsterdam-based studio reflects on its humble beginnings, beloved franchises, and growth through the years.

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SullysCigar1029d ago

Up there with the top tier in the industry. Love Guerrilla Games - Horizon Burning Shores is simply STUNNING.

1Victor1029d ago

Can’t wait for their next franchise

SullysCigar1029d ago

Same. They nailed it with Horizon. The trouble is I also want a new Killzone! Can't I just have it all?!

jznrpg1028d ago

I’m with you I want Horizon 3 , Killzone and new IPs

badz1491028d ago

I have yet to play Burning Shores as I just started Forbidden West (bought at launch, just unwrapped last weekend LOL) and playing on PS5.

man...I still can't believe the graphics especially now I'm playing it on my LG OLED. that graphics and with stable performance backing it up, GG really is the master of their craft!

Vengeance11381029d ago

32.7M sales in the Horizon franchise! With 8.4M coming from Forbidden West alone! Truly a hugely successful game and franchise as a whole. Looking forward to Horizon III

Shane Kim1029d ago

That's kind of a huge drop though. It's only been two games.

VersusDMC1029d ago

One year after realease HZD sold 7.6 million.

https://www.noobfeed.com/ne...

So not a drop off.

Unless you're saying a HFW should have sold as much now as HZD sold in 5 years?

Vengeance11381029d ago

It's been 3 games, this includes Call of the Mountain. Also no, its a great improvement over HZD.

solideagle1029d ago

lol you are comparing:

HZD: 28 February 2017 - May 2023 (6 years+)

HFW: 18 February 2022 - May 2023 (1 year+)

We will see if it surpass original number.

Phoenix761029d ago

@shane, 2 full main games, 2 DLC add ons, 1 VR spin off game, oh and a an official LEGO set.
Not too bad for an ip that's only been on market for 6 years

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REDGUM1028d ago

Wow, very impressive. I didn't know the numbers were so high for Forbidden West. Still playing through it myself

thesoftware7301029d ago (Edited 1029d ago )

Yooo, when I first saw that Killzone 1 footage at E3, my friends my brothers and I were like, Holy shit! When it came out, it didn't look exactly like it, but we sunk so many hours into 1 & 2.

I even liked Killzone: SF, it was a spectacle to look at, and even today it looks good. I hope they make a new one. Can you imagine how that will look, and they can get some modern FPS pointers from Bungie.

blacktiger1028d ago

thank you fps lover, I'm with you

talocaca1029d ago

Such a wonderful studio. They deserve all their success.

The Decima Engine is absolute 🔥 I'm just mad they have abandoned Killzone.

OzzY-waZZy1029d ago (Edited 1029d ago )

Kinda wish they move on from Horizon tbh.

lukasmain1029d ago

They are probably working on mutiple projects. One of them is Horizon 3, but another is a multiplaer game and probably somehting else.

Imalwaysright1029d ago

There were rumours that they were working on a Socom reboot.

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Killzone 3 is playable with mouse & keyboard on PC via RPCS3 & KAMI

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bouzebbal1779d ago

Still looks secure 2 gens later... one of my favorite ps3 moments. With 3D and move the game is on another level

MadLad1780d ago

PC almost always ends up the best place to play games, even if it takes a while.

What would you rather play decades down the line? A game at a fixed resolution and frame, considering you have a working disc, and the hardware?
Or run it on an emulator that can update the experience all around, and let you use whatever control input you prefer?

If you insist on the former, it's really only for the sake of nostalgia.

Applejack1780d ago

I disagree. The main draw for consoles has always be the simplicity of just putting the disc in / downloading it and playing without worrying about anything else. The average person just wouldn’t want to deal with emulation even though it’s very important for preservation.

Terry_B1780d ago

Even emulators are super simple to use.

jukins1780d ago

Youre getting flak because people on here thibk of themselves as pc wizards. But honestly most poeple try and go get emulators and romz they end up with malware.. yes theyre "easy" if you know the basics but alot of people dont. That said the fact that its taken nearly 20 years to get a sustantially better experience for ps3 games than on its native system shows the complexity of getting bc to work. Sony, if they have any intention, should just invest in a vastly better psnow experience.

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jukins

Most people who emulate don't get malware, you'd have to be going to some weird sites for that to happen, heck years ago people were getting sketchier ad's resulting in malware warning on this site if you didn't have a ad-blocker lol.

SinkingSage1779d ago

Can't get malware if you legally dump your own games, which you should.

Rachel_Alucard1779d ago (Edited 1779d ago )

That's fine if that's the main draw, but it doesn't make it a better experience, just a preference. Having the freedom to do the things you can do on PC is what the appeal of PC is. Buying a game on PC means you never have to worry about the console makers just deciding the next hardware shouldn't support the generation anymore, which means everything you bought is stuck on that hardware instead of moving up with everything else. Nintendo uses this tactic to keep reselling the same games over and over at inflated prices. Sony cut all previous gens off the PS4 and sold it back to people in a poor attempt with PSnow. While the PS5 supports PS4 games, that may not be the case in the next gen after this. No to mention shutting off all the previous stores and updates completely. Even MS stopped making new BC titles at some point, so now there's a big list with 17 pages of titles that are not playable on Xbone and are just trapped on older gen. That's not a problem on PC, the reverse happens where you only have to worry if your hardware can play the newest releases at ultra with no issue.

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AzubuFrost1780d ago

Shhh don't say that aloud! You're going to trigger a lot of console infidels here.

Shane Kim1780d ago

I rather play it when it's available then wait 10 years.

MadLad1779d ago

Did you purposely miss the entire point of my post?

Inverno1779d ago

Well that's the beauty of still owning a retro console tho. Those who usually complain about emulation are just being blindly loyal to a company. Emulation is great for many reason, but if I still owned the console then I disagree nothing beats plugging it back in and going down a nostalgia trip

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RevXM1780d ago

The RPCS3 devs are doing great work. And Kami works nicely with it too it seems.
Very neat.

Magatsuhi1779d ago

Been playing mgo on pc with mouse. It's not perfect but I can make it work.

Binarycode1779d ago

2 is the better game.

A Remake would be good. 60fps 2-4k

Omar3li1779d ago

60fps is peasant for FPS games now

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