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Microsoft lose $1.2 Million Due to Code Exploit

Yesterday afternoon a website started offering free Microsoft Points. I sure you if you type “free Microsoft Points” into Google you’ll still get pages upon pages of websites saying you will get free points if you just fill out 4 surveys and give them your social security number. This time, this really was a site giving away free Microsoft Points.

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Read my comment and you will understand they only lost approx. $20'000.
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Where do I start? Rewrite the article.
DMason5531d ago WhoDisagree(1)Agree(0)
Fake
No proof that Microsoft lost and money. Additionally, this site is nowhere near legit.
DMason5531d ago WhoDisagree(1)Agree(0)
Lame
There is no Proof that there really was a Site, and i think we would be hearing it from Microsoft by now.
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FailOverHero5531d ago

He he he...i tried but I was too late, it was fixed by the time i heard of it.
That ought to teach you for making people desperate for xbox live. Free is free and people will always want that.

DiRtY5531d ago

I gladly pay for Xbox Live. It is worth it.

Ducky5531d ago (Edited 5531d ago )

It might be worth it... but it kinda looses value when you can get a similar service for free from elsewhere.

Izanagi-no-Okami5531d ago

Ignore El Jugador, he is a well know PS3 fanboy in the forums.

mushroomwig5531d ago

Personally I don't think it's worth it, and I can say that after being a gold subscriber for nearly 2 years before switching to the PS3.

I say personally because opinions differ.

BiggCMan5531d ago

You can't tell people its not worth it, who the hell are you? It may be more than worth it for some people who actually use all the extra features like Netflix, Facebook, Last.fm, and whatever else there is. It may not be worth it at all for someone who only wants to play multiplayer games. It is different for each and every one of us.

MiloGarret5531d ago (Edited 5531d ago )

At least Jugador is honest about it.

winflasher05531d ago

So if online play was free for silver member ship would you still par for gold? I know I wouldn't.

TheDeadMetalhead5531d ago

"Xbox Live is worth it."

"No it isn't."

"Yes it is"

"How is it worth it?"

"Because it is."

"..."

Perjoss5531d ago

"but it kinda looses value when you can get a similar service for free from elsewhere."

Not really, with PS plus they are starting to put more and more stuff as plus timed exclusives, so if you want to play some of the newer demos you have to pay, not so free after all.

teething5531d ago

Hmmm... strikes me as an easy thing to track...

"who used the code?"

"here is the list sir"

"ban them! Make their 360 a paperweight!"

"Done sir."

blumatt5531d ago

Exactly, man. If Live Silver allowed people to play online multiplayer, and all Gold did was give you Twitter, Netflix, Facebook, LastFM, etc. then hardly anyone would pay for Live Gold.

I mean, who would pay $60 a year for access to all those services when it's free on your computer, PS3, and every other device? That's why I'm a Silver member.

DlocDaBudSmoka5531d ago

ps+ is sharable, so it only costs one person, if they share. can you share ur xbox stuff with other ppl, and still be able to purchase stuff on ur system? thats a legit question, i dont know but would like too.

Sitris5531d ago

PS plus is a totally different service, can't be compared to xbox live for the simple fact that it is a games service.

If xbox live silver was online gameplay enabled it would be a similar argument. But plus gives me games every moneth, it is a game service, I still have online play free of charge. If xbox live silver was enabled for online play, would you still pay for gold, I hardly doubt it, features for it are not as abundant as getting discounts, free launch games, minis, classics, dlcs, avatars, themes as well as acces to almost all betas. Gold doesn't do all those things, it is primarily a online service, which you must pay to play online. If it didn't offer online, it would be a niche service, like plus is, for the hardcore only.

No Way5531d ago (Edited 5531d ago )

Explain to me how it's not worth it?
Everyday things you pay for should be free.
Some of these things you pay for could be free.

Yet.. are they not worth to be paid for? Yes.

MisfitSmurf5531d ago

Its really not worth it, unless you want to play the other half of your game, which everywhere else lets you do.

Brash_Attack5531d ago

37 agree, 37 disagree. We have come to nothing...

duplissi5531d ago

@BiggCMan

you are correct, but only if that person ONLY has a 360, and not a blu ray player, tv, ps3, tv connected tablet, pc, wii that can do all of those extra services for free.....

granted not all tvs and blu ray players can access netflix/last.fm/facebook - but almost all sold today can.

Kazu0 Hirai5531d ago

they lost 1.2 million? serves the cunts right

kreate5531d ago (Edited 5531d ago )

Playstation Plus - gives u a bunch of games and entertainment content via the PSN. as well as discounts up to 50% for subscribing. u get to keep those games too. the ones u buy.

Xbox Live - gives u the ability to play ur games online via the Xbox Live by subscribing to the gold membership for 60 bucks.
basically for 60 bucks. u dont get anything.

both PSN and XBL gives out free stuff every now on than via special events or just for the heck of it regardless of the online status.

EDIT: how can u thumbs down this comment?
isnt it the truth? or u cant handle the truth?

Redgehammer5531d ago

I recently signed my family up for the Family Gold Plan, and the final tally for 15 months of XBL for 4 people came to 90 bucks. A price that you could say struck me (in the vernacular of Bill S. Preston, Esq. and Ted "Theodore" Logan) to be most excellent! XBL is a service, I have established multi-year friendships through its use, and most of all my son's and I have a fantastic time incorporating gaming into our active family time.
Worth is such a subjective topic; one that illuminates just how interesting the differences between human beings can be. However, from the moment I typed my first Load "*",8,1 I knew that PC gaming was worth something to me. And, I carry that love, and value for PC gaming still to this day. In 2004, imagine my sadness when after 21 years of steady enjoyment; a series of unfortunate events made gaming, from in front of a monitor, difficult and unpleasurable. Then, in 2007, my best friend, who ironically was always the "inferior" console gamer, introduced me to the Xbox 360 and GRAW 2, I was hesitant, but having had been away from gaming for a while, I was impressed a game could look that good on a console. Then he handed me what then, and still is the very best controller I have ever used, and I was hooked. I have been a happy owner of my own 360 since May 2007. As I mentioned, I am grateful, grateful to have a platform to game on that works for me, and as I've said , and I will keep saying it, I love XBL! It reminds me of a distilled, yet not comprehensive, take on PC gaming, and that is definitely worth something to me.

kreate5531d ago

PS3 has cross game chat.

YodaCracker5531d ago

With a statement like that, I would love to see El Jugador's Xbox LIVE gamertag. Haha....

radphil5531d ago (Edited 5531d ago )

What I find it funny is that those defending Live neglect to mention any difference than the 5 out of the 6 platforms that don't charge you to play with others in terms of multiplayer.

People don't need Last fm, Facebook, etc on the console. Multiplayer DOES affect the purchase of the game.

How do you justify that?

AntiHeroComplex5531d ago

"I gladly pay for Xbox Live. It is worth it."

It is worth it to pay for an internet connection which you are already paying for? Tell me... when you go to supermarket do you check out then turn around and check out again so you can pay twice for the same thing? How about when you are getting gas?

no? Then why pay for internet twice? Doesnt make any sense and all of you know it. Stop defending it at least. You pay because MS forces you to, and instead of making the sane choice and swapping 360 for ps3 you pay year after year.

Heh to each his own, i prefer to pay my bills once (or in this case not pay at all).

Masterchef20075531d ago

After switching to PSN XBOXlive isnt worth it to me. Cause i always had horrible conenction issues with XBOXlive but never had any with PSN. I mean with PSN i stream music videos all the time in HD and with XBOXlive i couldnt stream any videos at all without it skipping like crazy.

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Kurt Russell5531d ago

I am happy paying for live have done for 6 years. It's affordable and I spend many hours playing games online. When I decide it's no longer worth it, I will simply stop paying for it... shocking eh?

Nerds on this site can rage all they want, if it's not this it's some other inane pointless shit that in the grand scheme of things matters none.

Vherostar5531d ago

its worth it to play online?? Why should you have to pay twice?? You already pay your ISP why pay MS too? You don't pay on your ps3/wii/pc/DC/ps2/gamecube/mac /linux/mobile/iphone do you? I seriously say to anybody if they made online play free and just charged for the other gold features would you pay and nobody could seriously say yes they would pay.

radphil5531d ago (Edited 5531d ago )

@Kurt Russell

Then explain why you spend away $60/yr on a feature that is free on 83% of the platforms?

5/6 for those that don't know math conversions.

Instead of just GIVING money away to them, companies contest for your service. If you don't question them, they don't change things that NEED improvement.

That's why GFWL for example is just low on the PC scale, because they tried to be cheap and scam people the same way they do to the console users. They tried it with Shadowrun, and they did not get a warm welcome for that, when people came to their senses and questioned why should they be paying on top of a game, where literally hundreds of other ones don't for a utility service that you already pay for to begin with.

Active Reload5531d ago

It's not worth it if you don't have a 360...duh.

paintsville5531d ago

"Mandatory" firmware update incoming!!!!! OH NO wait....that's PS3...oops sorry. Nevermind. OH my "Mandatory" 5 gig install for Mass Effect is almost finished on my ps3!!! Hey wait...I played this game on my 360 without it even having a hard drive?? What gives all mighty ps3?

Theonik5530d ago

Not to me it's not. I get a better online experience on Steam for free. Besides that i am not paying a $60 extortion fee to use the online services i bought with my game.

Zydake5530d ago

"...and give them your social security number."

HEH! yeah right.

KingZFlipper5530d ago

@DiRtY

I agree with you. I pay approx. 40€/year of XBL. IMO it's a better service than PSN. Not saying PSN is bad or anything, it is also a good service. Just saying I like the features that XBL offers in Finland compared to what PSN offers. OK, PSN is free but still... That's like i would compare WoW and a normal shooter. The shooter's online is free, whilst WoW is about 25€/2 months

Gamer_Z5530d ago (Edited 5530d ago )

@DiRtY

Lol Thats what Microsoft wants you to think

ChrisW5530d ago

BiggCMan,

DAMN 'well said!'

And remember, there's also PSN+. If you use everything that it provides, it is also DAMN well worth it.

No Way5530d ago (Edited 5530d ago )

Why pay for satellite to watch tv and shows..
Just to turn around and then pay for HBO?

Same thing. You want the extra services.
The examples you used were weak. Try again.

@Vherostar - Uh. You do pay extra to use features on your phone?
Some phones charge extra to send big files.
Some charge you for time on the internet..
Some charge you for minutes to talk on your phone.
Some charge you to send a regular text message.

Weak argument.

Kurt Russell5530d ago

@radphil
I pay for it because it isn't free on Xbox, and if I don't pay I can't play. It's not fucking rocket science, if I didn't enjoy it I wouldn't pay for it.

I have a Playstation and a PC but neither have the games I am most addicted to... so are a moot point.

If you feel it's not worth paying your $60 to play, then don't pay for it... And if you're not paying for it, why the fuck are you poncing about on a message board raging about it?

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showtimefolks5531d ago

plus free psn if playing for free came with sliver i don't think many will pay for gold

facebook
twitter
espn

all free on pc plus tv

Masterchef20075531d ago

I think that for the majority of people who have gold. They have it for the online multiplayer. Which if you think about it since its not based off exclusive servers or anything should be free like PC and PS3.

ChronoJoe5530d ago

Online MP and cross game chat I'd imagine.

Mizz_mai5531d ago

This topica about xbl's worth always annoys me because xbox fanboys can never be truthful the TRUE QUESTION IS,if silver accounts would let us play games online for free would we still upgrade to gold ??

FunkMcnasty5531d ago

No, why would we PAY for XBL service if silver allowed access to online MP for free????? What i don't understand is why the hell other console owners care if xbox players are paying for their online service?? Does it affect you personally if you don't own an XBOX 360?? What's the point in just being a flaming troll about it? Everyone needs to shut the F**k up and just enjoy whatever console they prefer and not worry about what other people are doing.

I actually prefer the Xbox Live service over PSN, mainly because the connection and servers for MP seem to be stronger with less lag than I've found on PSN (at least in my local area where i live)... Having said that, I DO wish XBL was free, but in the meantime I think it's worth it to shell out $60/yr for a solid connection.

So the short answer to your question: NO. 85% of xbox live users would likely NOT upgrade to a gold membership if silver allowed online play.

dragon825530d ago

Maybe because other console owners also own a 360. The thing that annoys me the most about this site is that most of you people think that everyone owns only one console like you do. The fact is there is a very large group of us that own them all and care what happens on all of them.

Mizz_mai5530d ago (Edited 5530d ago )

@Funkmcnasty above
Whilst you make good points,why other console owners should care is that if one company is successful with a pay-to-play online business model....others will copy simple as that and playstation plus is a prime example of that.

Nintendo probably dont charge because online gameplay isnt a focus for the wii as that isnt what it does best.

And whilst connection are usually better on xbl than psn,my gold sub just ran out and my boyfriend lets me play his ps3 online and now it just seems silly to renew my gold membership.

xTruthx5531d ago

i think that people forget that you could stream almost everything if not everything with the ps3 browser. There are sites where you can download music,tv shows and movies directly to your ps3 for free. So basically your paying 60 bucks for p2p servers and c/s

ChronoJoe5530d ago

I've seen these code generators work in the past. For XBOX live. Never looked into it for PSN.

Never used one on either, though. As stated the majority don't work... but this isn't the first that has.

Solidus187-SCMilk5530d ago (Edited 5530d ago )

I ended up not even playing it because im not too interested in fable.

Why do you people give a shit whether each other think live is worth it. $60 is worth different amounts to some people. Some people pay $60 for some shit ass games or pay $100+ for lame collectors editions, I don't care what they buy, you shouldn't either.

I use all online services and pay for live on and off. It shouldn't cost money but I've gotten my money's worth when I due buy some months tho.

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Mystogan5531d ago (Edited 5531d ago )

Smells a little fishy to me.

you can't get 160 MS points.

I call Fake on this one.

alex33695531d ago (Edited 5531d ago )

well i got 2000 microsoft points sunday night so yea its "Fake" just dont tell ms haha. btw the reason why it was 160 is becuase it was a promotion from microsoft.... hence why xbox.com was manipulated to giving out these codes! its like they shot themselves in the foot.

MrBeatdown5531d ago

Don't tell MS? A little late for that.

That's like going to the bank, robbing it, then when they hand you the money, telling them to deposit into your account.

YodaCracker5531d ago

Don't be surprised the next time you log in to Xbox LIVE and receive a message that you have been banned until December 31, 9999. I can't wait to check out the Xbox LIVE Suspensions and Bans forum to laugh at your post along with all the others!

http://forums.xbox.com/Show...

Soldierone5530d ago

I would of done it once, maybe twice but to get 2000 points lol. IF MS is capable of tracking this at all, the easy targets are the ones that added too many points that day. 200 100 160 ....2000 ban him!

And by the sound of it, this is a "promotion" so either way its an easy track list.

LunaticBrandon5531d ago

Suddenly they all get banned and MS smiles as they buy new accounts and maybe even 360s.

SixZeroFour5531d ago

thats what i was thinking...i bet all they are doing is finding a loop hole to be able to either gt ban them or console ban them, then thatll make up for some, if not all, of what they lost

Flexatron5531d ago

Or they buy a ps3 because they are tired of paying for online and having no exclusives aside from kinect shovelware.

Brash_Attack5531d ago (Edited 5531d ago )

I saw this one on the xbox360iso.com. Apparently there were a few generators

EDIT: The site added a screencap as proof.

Injust075531d ago

A friend told me about this one. I was too late to jump on it.

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Microsoft Gaming Revenue Drops 7% Year-on-Year, Content and Services Down 5%, Xbox Hardware Down 33%

Microsoft announced its financial results for Q3 of fiscal year 2026, including an update on its gaming Xbox business and more.

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Jin_Sakai11h ago(Edited 11h ago)

Not looking good. Hopefully Asha Sharma is able to turn Phil’s disaster around.

dveio5h ago

To me it's still quite remarkable how they can cash-in 5.3bn in revenue in a single quarter, since their hardware is basically dead.

Jingsing3h ago

The stock mark is what makes Microsoft remarkable, They have convinced every institutional and retail investor to just keep piling money into them. Like many big tech giants they are just a big growing pyramid scheme. As long as people keep dropping money into ETF's that cover the market Microsoft will always be liquid. At the same time it is completely stifling innovation and competition. People need to start being more discreet in how they invest their money as it's killing the system.

Tanktopmaster924h ago

Once they re-evaluate exclusive all will be fine….

S2Killinit4h ago

Riiiiight because people will just flock back to them for one or two games per year.

Jingsing3h ago

15+ years of bad performance is what they call irreparable in business. It is time for them to sell off the assets and get out of entertainment.

Tanktopmaster921h ago

These declines are on the back of extra revenue received from releasing games like Forza horizon 5 on PlayStation. So I’m being sarcastic here when I said they should go back to exclusives. Killing off a revenue stream from Ps5 sales will only make things worse

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Xbox boss: Memory crisis could impact next-gen hardware pricing

Xbox boss Asha Sharma has discussed how component shortages will impact the company's plans for Project Helix.

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Eonjay1d 23h ago

When does this end? Its killing everyone. Consoles and PC. And for what? AI? The benefits of AI are completely outweighed by the negatives. And the government should have never allowed one company to buy up all the RAM.

Lexreborn22d ago

This kind of proves this is an after thought product, most products like this are in r&d 5 years before they start mass producing. So they typically have the cost of components and things worked out long before assembly starts.

This is an assumption still, but I wouldn’t be surprised if project helix is similar to Scalebound,perfect dark and sod3. They had an idea but no actual execution other than concept stage. Being impacted by the ram shortage likely would also put this device 3-4 years out.

I’m not even sure MS has that endurance with Xbox yet

Fishy Fingers2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

I mean.... what?

We're at a point that Samsung wont even provide their own phone department ram because they can sell it at higher prices to 3rd parties (AI). Its more profitable to sell the ram than make their own devices with it.

You think because R&D starts 5 years ago the 3rd party component manufacturers will honour that price? They'll sell it to whomever is paying the most today, not some gentlemens agreement they made years ago. AI farms will buy more volume at higher prices than any console manufacturer will. It'll be the same for Playstation.

Lexreborn21d 21h ago

Contractual agreements are not the same as “gentlemen” agreements. If you think that they work with their distributors a month before production then their entire business model is trash. They work with companies like nvidia constantly for building the graphics cards they need. They work with companies that build motherboards years in advance. This is what proper business planning does.

They are not buying components on a whim like a consumer. So again, considering the ram isn’t a singular module and is integrated into the motherboard I highly doubt they wouldn’t have a final schematic that they are supposed to be building around.

If they are delaying production another 3 years then it’s obvious again this is an after though project and is just trying to be responsive to their bad execution they had the last 14 years.

It also isn’t far fetched to use their failure to produce first party titles the last 7 years including the highly anticipated games I mentioned all being cancelled. That they would continue to you know… lie

Sitdown2d ago

You don't really know how this works huh?

Profchaos2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

Helix is going to be stupidly expensive

Instead of leaning into smarter upscaling techniques they're brute forcing hardware that will cost them dearly and it remains to be seen if it's genuinely going to provide a meaningful differential

I know in the oc.doace people like to brag about not using frame gen or dlss to get to high on a game but for the majority of players they happily use those technologies without a second thought

That's going to be ps6 vs Helix

Eonjay1d 23h ago

Yeah with FSR 5 they should be able to offer a much cheaper version of Helix.

Eonjay1d 23h ago

While this does seem to be the case, I am encouraged by the statement from Microsoft about wanting to provide affordable options. If this means a Series S style Helix, at least there will be something affordable being offered.

XBManiac1d 16h ago

Series S is what has killed Xbox Series so... Will they dare?

blacktiger2d ago

It's called systematic inflationary. Yes we get it Microsoft, keep raising in the name ofall kinds of stuffs

pwnmaster30002d ago

Honestly if there was thing I learned from this generation is that new consoles arnt day one anymore.
I can wait 1-3 years.

DarXyde2d ago

Another important lesson from this generation: while Nintendo showed us that prices don't necessarily need to ever drop, we've now learned that waiting 1-3 years does carry some risk that prices increase. This generation is just bizarre in all the wrong ways.

LucasRuinedChildhood2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

The factors are largely external. Covid and Russia-Ukraine war causing inflation led to the first price increase in 2022.

Then we get Trump's tariffs increasing hardware prices, AI boom causing a RAM crisis, war on Iran causing a worldwide fuel crisis which impacts the cost of everything.

Gaming doesn't exist in a vacuum. The last few years have been a shitshow and lot of it was definitely avoidable.

DarXyde1d 20h ago

LucasRuinedChildhood,

For sure. No disagreement on the external factors doing a lot of this. Where I have to gently push back however is on two fronts:

1. The pandemic definitely caused some issues: asynchronous development was a big issue and really complicated timelines and affected game quality. At the same time, when it comes to price hikes, it's really difficult to know what was genuine necessity and what was taking consumers for a ride. The pandemic brought about "stag-flation" which was increasing prices and stagnant wages, which was a problem caused by supply chain constraints. There was also "Greed-flation", where companies that were slightly affected or had no issues took advantage of the situation and squeezed everyone citing supply chain issues when there were none.

2. It's definitely true that the tariffs, AI boom, and RAM crisis were all things enabled by tech broligarchs throwing money at this caricature of a world leader, one of them being Satya Nadella. I don't think Sony and Nintendo have contributed much to this problem if at all, but Microsoft's Nadella I feel was instrumental in causing every one of those issues. Microsoft as a company contributed to both candidates (though they gave Harris 4x as much if I recall), but Nadella was all in on letting AI run wild. He paid for unregulated AI, and got a war that's not a war (even though Trump called it that at least five times on television) that screwed up helium access. So for me, I feel that one of the players in the gaming industry is a key architect of these issues, and for that reason I struggle a bit to think of it as "external".

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In an exclusive interview with Game File, new(ish) Xbox boss Asha Sharma and Xbox chief content officer Matt Booty explain their vision for Microsoft’s gaming division

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Agent753d ago

A good start would be to release games to go with the console. My Xbox Series X has gathered dust virtually from launch. My advice would be to ditch a next console and release games on PC, PlayStation and Switch. Another idea would be a hybrid console based on Xbox Series X tech and go the same route as Nintendo. Another idea would be to pull out of gaming altogether. Plenty of options there.

Reaper22_1d 7h ago

Why would they pull out? They have the momentum. Sony has been getting nothing but bad news lately.