What Battlefield 3 needs to avoid

Ducky5657d ago

It was better in the early days when the only way to take down the chopper was somalian style.
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toaster5657d ago

It needs to avoid consolization.

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ChineseDemocracy5656d ago

- Mix up the classes/weapons a bit.
- Please remove that greasy mustache from the medic character model.
- More weapon customization.

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Wenis5656d ago (Edited 5656d ago )

I think the choppers in BC2 were just not balanced at all. On one hand, choppers could base rape wayy to easily. On the other hand, they could get destroyed by AA way too easily. On the third hand, they were too easy to destroy with tracer darts. On the fourth hand, they were too hard to hit with stand alone rockets. Hope this mess gets fixed to being:

sort of hard to base rape
sort of hard to destroy chopper with an AA
sort of hard to destroy a chopper with rocket
& like you said panda, no more tracers. Maybe bring back GTAMs though.

y0haN5656d ago

Play BC2: Vietnam. Somalian style is the only way to do it and it feels 500x better to take one out of the sky without help.

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socomnick5657d ago

Yea get rid of tracer darts bring in Stinger missiles.

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ATi_Elite5656d ago

BF3 wish list articles
12 days of christmas with BF3
BF3 vs. Crysis 2 screenshots articles everyday
BF3 vs. Call of Duty anything
BF3 vs. BC2 comparison
people crying about not being able to play BF3 PC on XP (don't give in DICE, just say UPGRADE)
needs to really avoid GFWL
need to avoid using "opposition forces" instead of Insurgent or Taliban
need to avoid using any PC that was used to make Medal of Honor

As a PC gamer I know Battlefield 3 PC will reign supreme but DICE needs to avoid making a mediocre PS3 version which I'm sure the 360 and ps3 version will be equal cause DICE is a first class developer unlike *cough Craptivision Cough*.

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SixZeroFour5656d ago

i think they should keep the tracers, but have it the way it was before the patch made it super fast and accurate

i liked using it where you had to lead the chopper to nail it...i felt a sense of accomplishment whenever i landed a tracer, now its just easy

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TurismoGTR5657d ago

What BF3 needs is to return to there roots from BF2 on the PS2. That game was seriously epic fun.

Or they should take a risk and come up with something completely different than what we have with COD/BF

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Pandamobile5656d ago

Return to the roots from BF2 on the PS2?

Excuse me?

BF2: Modern Combat was an entirely different game than BF2 (BF2:MC Metacritic was like 75, BF2 Metacritic was like 91).

If DICE made BF3 like BF2:MC, the series would go down the shitty pretty quickly.

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Pandamobile5656d ago

shitter*

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Wenis5656d ago

Modern Combat was fun though, but I think, like the Bad Company series, it could to without the 'Battlefield' in it's name. But again I had a ton of fun on BF2MC on Ps2, was my second most played game behind Battlefront 2.

Mozilla895656d ago

I'm not sure if you played the game at all but the multi-player was damn good. The game was actually developed in two parts one dev team did the single player but DICE did the multi=player.

Pandamobile5656d ago

I played the hell out of BF2:MC because I saw a video of BF2 on the net, and I bought BF2:MC thinking it was the same game.

It wasn't.

Not even close.

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Neo Nugget5657d ago

I want some freakin' big ass maps to run across.

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Ducky5657d ago

Why run when you can submarine?

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Xfanboy5657d ago

no DX9 or console port = done...

Frostbite 2 is primarily developed for DX11. XP & DX9 is _not_ supported, 64-bit OS is recommended. Lots of time to upgrade if you havent!

http://bf3blog.com/2010/12/...

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soundslike5657d ago

I don't get the gripes with the unlocks, BF has had them since before COD.

But yea the classes got weird

Step 1: Take C4 away from Recon

Step 2: Take motion sensor away from Recon

Step 3: Give the C4 and motion sensor to a class that focuses solely on stealthily c4ing things.

Oh hey sup Spec ops, here's your silenced SMG that for some reason the DUDE WITH THE ROCKET LAUNCHER(not stealthy...) was holding for you.

Ducky5657d ago (Edited 5657d ago )

Someone needs to pry the LMG's from those dastardly medics.
Nothing rages me more than getting snipe-sprayed by a Medic... and then having the killcam show his grinning face and moustache. Argh. =/

Give them a shotgun...

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Mozilla895656d ago

Haha, yeah I've had the same feeling. The mustache guy pisses me off.

ATi_Elite5656d ago

LMAO yeh I agree too. I hate that mustache guy. The red Barret dude is cool as his mouth looks like he is chewing tobacco but that mustache dude looks like a G.I Joe character. I just hate him.

Mozilla895657d ago

"Step 3: Give the C4 and motion sensor to a class that focuses solely on stealthily c4ing things."

Like recon and scouting? I can see the point with taking away the C4 but the motion sensor is fine.

I also agree about the Spec Ops thing. In the BF game on PS2 the Spec Ops class was pretty fun with the silenced SMG and C4, good times...

soundslike5657d ago

the problem is that they have sniper rifles that can shoot people from a mile away, but the recon grenades are made for close quarters

Sure, you can do some close range sniping or take the VSS but its a fundamental conflict of interest for the player's role in the game.

Mozilla895656d ago

I agree, but I think one of the neat uses of the recon grenade is to use it at your position to make sure no one sneaks up on you while sniping.

Not gonna lie though, my best game as a recon was using motion grenades and a shotgun to guard a heavily contested control point...not exactly recon work. Classes definitely need to be revamped.

TheObserver5657d ago

No Bullsh*t 24 player max downgrade. 64 players max and above if BF3 want to be true successor to the Battlefield name. I don't like the excuse that low player count make matches more "intimate" crap. It is supposed to be a chaotic battlefield, not a tea party.

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ThanatosDMC5656d ago

I got disagrees when i made that point that the player count in BFBC1 and BFBC2 is a downgrade from BF2's 64 player count. Apparently they like to shoot less people and want less stuff happening in a war game.

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bumnut5656d ago (Edited 5656d ago )

I'll be disappointed if it is not higher than 64, MAG has already raised the bar and shown that 256 is possible.

I hope they have as high a player count as possible on each platform.

And please limit the number of players for each class except assault.

PotatoClock5656d ago

64 players was manic on BF2. Both sides would hit a bottleneck against each other, there was so much grenade spam you couldn't help but be blown away

Ducky5656d ago (Edited 5656d ago )

When I boot up BF3, I want to be blown away.
I'd expect nothing less.

Crap... I've wasted all my bubbles on making half-baked comments. =/

edoman205656d ago

Its so fun when you are in the middle of a granade shower

EPIC XD

Da_Evil_Monkey5656d ago

If they bump it up to 64 or more they need to make sure the maps are big enough (much bigger than BC2) with multiple ways to move, not a few chokepoints. Nothing bugs me more than online games that have too many players for the size of the map and there's a fragfest at the main chokepoints with no way round.

Der_Kommandant5657d ago

More helicopters!

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SKUD5656d ago

If your a sniper. It should ban you from being a PILOT so you cant go to the tallest point and then BAIL leaving whole squad.

Pandamobile5656d ago

Maybe implement a system where you have to earn the right to fly vehicles.

Level 1 first time tries to grab a chopper or get and gets "You do not have the necessary requirements to pilot this vehicle. Please complete the flight training program by accessing the menu"

Then in the flight training it teaches you the basics of the controls, and to pass a flight test you must achieve something like 5 minutes of sustained flight time without crashing.

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lucifon5656d ago

Worried BF3 will just turn out like Bad Company, not that Bad Company is a bad game, infact I love it. But one of my greatest online experiences is with BF2 on the PC, a true sequel to that would be truly amazing.

VenomProject5656d ago

Battlefield 3 is being developed for the PC last time I read. Don't worry about the "consolization," Dice wouldn't do that to PC users. Bad Company was meant to be on consoles.

lucifon5656d ago

Battlefield 3 is being developed for the Xbox 360, PS3 AND PC. The sad fact is that the money is in the console versions, which means they'll do what any business would do and develop for them in mind.

VenomProject5656d ago

Do you mean releasing or developed? Because I'm pretty sure Dice will be handling the PC version separately from the console versions.

This is a sequel to Battlefield 2, not Bad Company 2. Have some faith. :D

MidnytRain5656d ago

I disagree about the regenerative health. Anyone who has played BFBC2 will tell you that. without the assistance of a medic, your health will recover VERY slowly. If you're badly injured and don't have a buddy to heal you up, you can look forward to sitting in a corner for 5 minutes hoping no one finds you.

Mozilla895656d ago

I agree, I don't think that once the blood around your screen is gone you're back at full health. I think only a small portion recovers.

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Anti-Fanboyer5656d ago

Bad Company = Communication limited to squad.= dead quiet

Battlefield 2/ Modern Combat = Can speak to whole team, and enemies if standing near them = in-game voices + player voice; epic?

What would you prefer.

MidnytRain5656d ago (Edited 5656d ago )

To be honest, I don't think I like the idea of 64 players yelling over each other through their mics.

mastirchaef5656d ago

"the average BF player is a lot more intelligent, patient and skilled than the average COD player". Wow, this guy is clearly butthurt about how blackops has taken most of the battlefield players away. Instead of insulting the game, he insults the PLAYERS. Get off your high horse. I bet you are going to say that treyarch is stupid for developing a game that is exponentially more successful than battlefield. I bet this guy thinks that treyarch should develop games for "hardcore" fps fans that only play battlefield. This is the thing with fanboys, if you don't play or buy what they like, then you must be unintelligent, impatient, and unskilled. Blame Dice for the nearly dead and forgotten game that is bc2, not the players.

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bumnut5656d ago

It would be pretty cool if they include a different game mode with famous historic battles with unbalanced teams.

e.g 10 guys trying to defend Omaha beach and the other 54 storming the beach would be sweet

MARKUS_MAX1MUS5656d ago

I need to crack my knuckles for this post, oh how I need to.

WELL,

we NEED JETS BACK!

We need Dynamic maps like the Carrier based BF2 ones and maps like the BLack Gold, Hidden on the BF2 console version

We need More vehicles, inventive ways to play, seen a guy mentioning submarine before. I applaud you sir for thinking of a possible new dynamic to gameplay. underwater.

We need more contextual intereactions with vehicles such as alternate fire, lock on hellfires with choppers.

WE need a large array of maps

We need large amounts of players both on console and PC

We would like the prone function back in

WE NEED proper hit detection

We NEED different factions i.e British army, PLA, American Army, Armerican marines, North Korea...lol.

Now:

We DONT need perks

We DONT need sluggish bad company movement

WE DONT need crappy pre rendered destruction for the noobs to go "wow look mom!" that was the sacrificial lamb for gameplay in Bad company 1 & 2

We dont need to simplify the game for mongaloids

We most definetely dont need grainy graphics

We really dont need a singleplayer, what made BF good in the first place?

We dont need tours of DICE's HQ were they show us their coffee making facilities and gym which they supposedly use. we need you to make a fuckign great game.

disagree with that and you obviously never experienced BF2 or you were shit at it and enjoyed the dumbed down gameplay of BC where you could shoot a guy in the foot and get a headshot or blow away a piece of pre rendered wall which was covered up with a crappy smoke effect.