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E4G: Killzone 3 impressions

E4G: Killzone 3 has one hell of an act to follow. Killzone 2 still stands as a shining example of first person (near) perfection, having taken onboard the criticism of the first game Guerrilla Games then proceeded to make everything bad, brilliant and make everything good, great. In many ways Killzone 3 will be like the successor to Uncharted 2, in that many gamers will wonder how the hell the game can get any better.

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Hitman07695706d ago

I loved Killzone 3 when I played it at E3. The 3DHD and Move support are definitely factors but I can tell you from playing it on DualShock 3 in HD that its great whether you care about those features or not. Keeps all the things that were great about the original and makes many great improvements!

plb5706d ago

How the graphics compare to KZ2? It's hard to tell from youtube videos

Fred-G-Sanford5706d ago

LOL @ "Killzone 2 still stands as a shining example of first person (near) perfection".

Seriously, come on now.
Killzone 2 has the worst controls/controller lag I have ever seen in a modern FPS. It's beyond laughable.

The only people that deny that fact are blind fanboys (and the developers, sadly).

4me25706d ago

I'm not going to deny that K2 had lag problem with controllers. Actually I confirm that (just to make you happy). But the lag it not something that would prevent anyone from from playing the game. For me is not a big deal. In fact it made the game more difficult ... and a like difficult. There is a difference between slight lag and unplayable one.
You play, you recognize that, you adjust , you think ahead and you can have fun despite lag problem. But I guess that just me and I am glad we all have choices. For example I do not like MW2 but millions do.
For me MW2= (Spawn+Run+Shoot+Die)*Repeat --> all of it in few seconds.
People often complain about noobtubes , campers ... well it is in the game so change your tactics, out maneuver them and win it! Personally I hate campers(unless you defending something) and if I find one, that annoys me sufficiently, I will do my best to make sure that his spot is very unfriendly even if I go 1:20 K/D.

Fred-G-Sanford5706d ago

"But the lag it not something that would prevent anyone from from playing the game."

That simply isn't true.

I'm glad (sincerely) that it didn't bother you, but MANY people feel that the game is broken due to the lag issue.

If you don't believe that, just do a Google search for "Killzone 2 Lag" and look at the amount of complaints. How many other FPS games have page after page of controller complaints?

The game is a graphical powerhouse with truly horrible controls.
It's as simple as that.

I am able to recognize (and accept) that because I don't worship everything that Sony does.
Most of the posters here on N4G can't say the same.

IHateYouFanboys5706d ago

@Fred-G-Sanford: "Killzone 2 has the worst controls/controller lag I have ever seen in a modern FPS. It's beyond laughable.

The only people that deny that fact are blind fanboys (and the developers, sadly)."

the thing is, even the developers admitted that there was ~200ms of input lag - the fanboys just wouldnt admit it, despite the developers they love saying its there.

i LOVED killzone on the PS2. it had the 'weighty' controls but without any input lag, just like Battlefield Bad Company 2. Killzone 2 though, i wanted to love it, i tried to love it, but as soon as i got to top rank online i stopped playing. you shouldnt have to 'put up' with input lag. you shouldnt look at it like 'its different, so i need to learn how to do it'. the reason other games dont have input lag is because its not a good thing, and noone wants it. you want responsive controls, and input lag is the direct opposite of that.

after GG said theyve completely eliminated the input lag in KZ3, it rocketed straight back up my list from 'probably wont buy' to 'definitely will buy'.

lets just hope the campaigns not as boring as Killzone 2s, and that your viewpoint isnt that of a young midget.

Fred-G-Sanford5706d ago (Edited 5706d ago )

Yes, I am very encouraged by GG's claim that they have "fixed" the controls for KZ3.

I'm going to rent the game first, though, just to be on the safe side.

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beavis4play5706d ago

your act really is getting old.

Fred-G-Sanford5706d ago

Grow up.

My posts are simply my opinions about the current state of gaming.

If you disagree with them you can say so, but trying to reduce them to nothing more than "trolling" is lame.

You do realize that for months after the release of Killzone 2 the only thing being talked about was the horrible controls, don't you?

dkblackhawk505706d ago

I got in the beta! Sucks to be you guys :P

-Alpha5706d ago

Man I'm very jealous, I'd love to actually test it and leave feedback instead of having people just use the chance to play it early.

karl5706d ago

well. i was feeling bad enough already for not getting into it..

thx dude.. hope u report lots of bug.. do your part =P

monkpunk15706d ago

me too been playing non stop virtually for 3 days.... A little hint its good....very good.

CovertGunman5706d ago

Saw this while at E3. Didn't have a chance to play it, but nonetheless, it's still looking good.

Chefooba5706d ago

It's got MASSIVE competition with the CoD crew... I suppose its refreshing compared to all the realistic modern conflict shooters of the day though.

Hitman07695706d ago

What game doesn't have massive competition with COD? Who cares though I play what I like not what will sell great :)

mrv3215706d ago

Black Ops is the opposite of both realism and 'modern conflict' the cold war is over.

STICKzophrenic5706d ago

I can't wait to play Killzone 3. Killzone 2 is why I bought a PS3 and I wasn't disappointed. Hopefully Killzone 3 improves on a couple key areas (co-op campaign and bonafide party system).

Does Killzone 3 have a set release date yet?

cochise3135706d ago

yeah it will be released in late february

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piroh551d ago

There's too many games to choose from

No Metal geat solid 1,2,3,4?
No Resident evil?
No Silent hill?
No Midnight club 3?
No NfS Underground 2?
No Final Fantasy?
No Burnout 3?
No Dragon quest 8?
No Days gone?
No Ace combat?
No Tekken/Soul calibur?......
just from the top of my head

PS1 era was full of great RPGs, PS2 was racing generation i would pick top 200 and even that would be just a fraction.

FinalFantasyFanatic550d ago

30 is way too low over the entire history of Playstation, I just wouldn't be able to narrow it down that much, I would pick 100 at least.

Storm23550d ago

Yeah...really odd list. I get that it is personal preference and I love most of the games listed, but my list would definitely be different. I agree though, it would be incredibly difficult to come up with just 30.

lockedongamer1550d ago (Edited 550d ago )

I only picked first-party titles. Otherwise, I agree!

EDIT: Except for Days Gone, I don't get the love for it but you do you!

Chocoburger541d ago

I didn't like Days Gone either, it doesn't deserve to be on any best of list.

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20 Years of Guerrilla: The Story of a PlayStation Studio

The Amsterdam-based studio reflects on its humble beginnings, beloved franchises, and growth through the years.

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SullysCigar1116d ago

Up there with the top tier in the industry. Love Guerrilla Games - Horizon Burning Shores is simply STUNNING.

1Victor1116d ago

Can’t wait for their next franchise

SullysCigar1116d ago

Same. They nailed it with Horizon. The trouble is I also want a new Killzone! Can't I just have it all?!

jznrpg1116d ago

I’m with you I want Horizon 3 , Killzone and new IPs

badz1491116d ago

I have yet to play Burning Shores as I just started Forbidden West (bought at launch, just unwrapped last weekend LOL) and playing on PS5.

man...I still can't believe the graphics especially now I'm playing it on my LG OLED. that graphics and with stable performance backing it up, GG really is the master of their craft!

Vengeance11381116d ago

32.7M sales in the Horizon franchise! With 8.4M coming from Forbidden West alone! Truly a hugely successful game and franchise as a whole. Looking forward to Horizon III

Shane Kim1116d ago

That's kind of a huge drop though. It's only been two games.

VersusDMC1116d ago

One year after realease HZD sold 7.6 million.

https://www.noobfeed.com/ne...

So not a drop off.

Unless you're saying a HFW should have sold as much now as HZD sold in 5 years?

Vengeance11381116d ago

It's been 3 games, this includes Call of the Mountain. Also no, its a great improvement over HZD.

solideagle1116d ago

lol you are comparing:

HZD: 28 February 2017 - May 2023 (6 years+)

HFW: 18 February 2022 - May 2023 (1 year+)

We will see if it surpass original number.

Phoenix761116d ago

@shane, 2 full main games, 2 DLC add ons, 1 VR spin off game, oh and a an official LEGO set.
Not too bad for an ip that's only been on market for 6 years

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REDGUM1116d ago

Wow, very impressive. I didn't know the numbers were so high for Forbidden West. Still playing through it myself

thesoftware7301116d ago (Edited 1116d ago )

Yooo, when I first saw that Killzone 1 footage at E3, my friends my brothers and I were like, Holy shit! When it came out, it didn't look exactly like it, but we sunk so many hours into 1 & 2.

I even liked Killzone: SF, it was a spectacle to look at, and even today it looks good. I hope they make a new one. Can you imagine how that will look, and they can get some modern FPS pointers from Bungie.

blacktiger1116d ago

thank you fps lover, I'm with you

talocaca1116d ago

Such a wonderful studio. They deserve all their success.

The Decima Engine is absolute 🔥 I'm just mad they have abandoned Killzone.

OzzY-waZZy1116d ago (Edited 1116d ago )

Kinda wish they move on from Horizon tbh.

lukasmain1116d ago

They are probably working on mutiple projects. One of them is Horizon 3, but another is a multiplaer game and probably somehting else.

Imalwaysright1116d ago

There were rumours that they were working on a Socom reboot.

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Killzone 3 is playable with mouse & keyboard on PC via RPCS3 & KAMI

DSOGaming writes: "While Sony does not plan to release Killzone 3 on the PC, Yahfz shared a video that gives us a glimpse at what such a PC version could look like."

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bouzebbal1867d ago

Still looks secure 2 gens later... one of my favorite ps3 moments. With 3D and move the game is on another level

MadLad1867d ago

PC almost always ends up the best place to play games, even if it takes a while.

What would you rather play decades down the line? A game at a fixed resolution and frame, considering you have a working disc, and the hardware?
Or run it on an emulator that can update the experience all around, and let you use whatever control input you prefer?

If you insist on the former, it's really only for the sake of nostalgia.

Applejack1867d ago

I disagree. The main draw for consoles has always be the simplicity of just putting the disc in / downloading it and playing without worrying about anything else. The average person just wouldn’t want to deal with emulation even though it’s very important for preservation.

Terry_B1867d ago

Even emulators are super simple to use.

jukins1867d ago

Youre getting flak because people on here thibk of themselves as pc wizards. But honestly most poeple try and go get emulators and romz they end up with malware.. yes theyre "easy" if you know the basics but alot of people dont. That said the fact that its taken nearly 20 years to get a sustantially better experience for ps3 games than on its native system shows the complexity of getting bc to work. Sony, if they have any intention, should just invest in a vastly better psnow experience.

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jukins

Most people who emulate don't get malware, you'd have to be going to some weird sites for that to happen, heck years ago people were getting sketchier ad's resulting in malware warning on this site if you didn't have a ad-blocker lol.

SinkingSage1867d ago

Can't get malware if you legally dump your own games, which you should.

Rachel_Alucard1867d ago (Edited 1867d ago )

That's fine if that's the main draw, but it doesn't make it a better experience, just a preference. Having the freedom to do the things you can do on PC is what the appeal of PC is. Buying a game on PC means you never have to worry about the console makers just deciding the next hardware shouldn't support the generation anymore, which means everything you bought is stuck on that hardware instead of moving up with everything else. Nintendo uses this tactic to keep reselling the same games over and over at inflated prices. Sony cut all previous gens off the PS4 and sold it back to people in a poor attempt with PSnow. While the PS5 supports PS4 games, that may not be the case in the next gen after this. No to mention shutting off all the previous stores and updates completely. Even MS stopped making new BC titles at some point, so now there's a big list with 17 pages of titles that are not playable on Xbone and are just trapped on older gen. That's not a problem on PC, the reverse happens where you only have to worry if your hardware can play the newest releases at ultra with no issue.

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AzubuFrost1867d ago

Shhh don't say that aloud! You're going to trigger a lot of console infidels here.

Shane Kim1867d ago

I rather play it when it's available then wait 10 years.

MadLad1866d ago

Did you purposely miss the entire point of my post?

Inverno1867d ago

Well that's the beauty of still owning a retro console tho. Those who usually complain about emulation are just being blindly loyal to a company. Emulation is great for many reason, but if I still owned the console then I disagree nothing beats plugging it back in and going down a nostalgia trip

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RevXM1867d ago

The RPCS3 devs are doing great work. And Kami works nicely with it too it seems.
Very neat.

Magatsuhi1867d ago

Been playing mgo on pc with mouse. It's not perfect but I can make it work.

Binarycode1867d ago

2 is the better game.

A Remake would be good. 60fps 2-4k

Omar3li1867d ago

60fps is peasant for FPS games now

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