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Kinect Controls Work Great... in a Bubble

The idea of controlling your console with gestures in a neat concept, but it also comes with a slew of technical challenges.

At the top of the list of issues that Microsoft's Kinect controller for the Xbox 360 faces is the problem of interference from people not in the virtual driver's seat of the console.

What happens when you're trying to control the Xbox 360 with gestures and someone walks in front of you or behind you? Right now? Things go haywire, but the person demonstrating the technology to me at last week's GamesCom said that they are still tweaking the interface.

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Omega45735d ago

Luckily when you're at home you won't have crowds of people constantly walking behind you.

Nike5735d ago

If they're marketing the device at families, then I think you will.

captain-obvious5735d ago (Edited 5735d ago )

thats a nice spin you got in there omega

but since MS market this thing as a casual/family/party peripheral
so yes you well have things going on in the same spot
and you'll have people walking behind you

KingME5735d ago (Edited 5735d ago )

What happens when you are driving your favorite driving game going around a hairpin turn and your cousin walks directly in front of the TV?

What happens when you are going for that head shot in MW2 and your sister bumps your shoulder when she sits next to you?

What happens when you are using PS Move and someone stands between you and the camera?

I mean, really?

Some of you people act like because it is marketed to families that it is suppose to compensate for total craziness within the household.

We play the wii all the time, but we don't walk in front of each other while someone is playing, And I'm sure that if you did, there would be some sore of gaming backlash to it.

Godmars2905735d ago (Edited 5735d ago )

Not including roommates, parents, kids, friends, pets and assorted furnisher...

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jack_burt0n5735d ago (Edited 5735d ago )

yeah but you need so much space like 14ft of open terrain.

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listen all power to omega he tried it, he wants to buy it thats all fine, unless his alt account is mandatory install ppl need to give him a break.

Baka-akaB5735d ago (Edited 5735d ago )

well to be fair in his parents' basement surrounded by MS posters and ads material , he wont have that issue indeed

niceguywii605735d ago (Edited 5735d ago )

Yes families have dozens or hundreds of people around the TV LOL With unnatural lighting and cameras

I feel sorry for PS3 fanboys. Does anybody find it strange PS3 fanboys have this mentally ill obsession with Kinect? It's not normal and proves they're very worried about it.

twoface5735d ago (Edited 5735d ago )

Do you need a dozen to affect the controls?

How about ps move? Does it get affected by people moving around in the background, or does its algorithm recognize the balls of light as first priority?

Nike5735d ago

Apparently (in it's current stage - I don't know how much tweaking they can do since it's only 3 months from release), it only takes one person. Read the description again:

"What happens when you're trying to control the Xbox 360 with gestures and someONE walks in front of you or behind you? Right now? Things go haywire..."

Bellcross5735d ago

Kinect is perfect for you, you got no friends or family.

Milo and Skittles will keep you company at night.

pathetic troll.

Qui-Gon Jim5735d ago

The article mentions that all the demos units are located in areas enclosed by clear plastic. Plastic is opaque (not transparent) to infra-red. The Kinect system uses infra-red light for the 3D imaging. The camera cannot, therefore, see the crowds. Besides that, the software ignores anything beyond a certain distance, anyway.

The demo was being thrown off by the camera operator standing behind the couch. If you are playing at home, there very well may be people standing behind the couch watching. There's a simple enough fix, just make sure people aren't standing behind you, but it may cause problems for people, especially if people can't figure out what's wrong.

btk5735d ago

But Omega4 - I thought it could track 6 players... Seems like with only one a background person is going to be a problem.

And no - in my house there is a lot of people moving around. With four kids - if one is shouting at anyone who as much as cast a shadow in the living room because his Kinect is diskinecting... well - lets just say I am happy that I will be getting Move.

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jrbeerman115735d ago

Sounds like this tech may be a lil ahead of its time, hope it works out for em.

zootang5735d ago

Maybe you're behind the times?

jneul5735d ago

its ten whole years behind, it's already been done and proved not to work, controler-less gaming is not new and eyetoy did it first

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divideby05735d ago

when are we going to read something positive about Kinetic
I aint buying one since there is no killer app, its over priced and it dont play any REAL games.
I just am tired of reading all the negative press about it and waiting to read something that would remotely think about buying one

Pennywise5735d ago

The two people still defending this product are getting to look pretty sad. MS will never learn about taking shortcuts and rushing products.

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Microsoft Gaming Revenue Drops 7% Year-on-Year, Content and Services Down 5%, Xbox Hardware Down 33%

Microsoft announced its financial results for Q3 of fiscal year 2026, including an update on its gaming Xbox business and more.

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Jin_Sakai7d ago (Edited 7d ago )

Not looking good. Hopefully Asha Sharma is able to turn Phil’s disaster around.

dveio7d ago

To me it's still quite remarkable how they can cash-in 5.3bn in revenue in a single quarter, since their hardware is basically dead.

Jingsing7d ago

The stock mark is what makes Microsoft remarkable, They have convinced every institutional and retail investor to just keep piling money into them. Like many big tech giants they are just a big growing pyramid scheme. As long as people keep dropping money into ETF's that cover the market Microsoft will always be liquid. At the same time it is completely stifling innovation and competition. People need to start being more discreet in how they invest their money as it's killing the system.

Tanktopmaster927d ago

Once they re-evaluate exclusive all will be fine….

S2Killinit7d ago

Riiiiight because people will just flock back to them for one or two games per year.

Jingsing7d ago

15+ years of bad performance is what they call irreparable in business. It is time for them to sell off the assets and get out of entertainment.

Tanktopmaster927d ago

These declines are on the back of extra revenue received from releasing games like Forza horizon 5 on PlayStation. So I’m being sarcastic here when I said they should go back to exclusives. Killing off a revenue stream from Ps5 sales will only make things worse

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Xbox boss: Memory crisis could impact next-gen hardware pricing

Xbox boss Asha Sharma has discussed how component shortages will impact the company's plans for Project Helix.

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Eonjay9d ago

When does this end? Its killing everyone. Consoles and PC. And for what? AI? The benefits of AI are completely outweighed by the negatives. And the government should have never allowed one company to buy up all the RAM.

Lexreborn210d ago

This kind of proves this is an after thought product, most products like this are in r&d 5 years before they start mass producing. So they typically have the cost of components and things worked out long before assembly starts.

This is an assumption still, but I wouldn’t be surprised if project helix is similar to Scalebound,perfect dark and sod3. They had an idea but no actual execution other than concept stage. Being impacted by the ram shortage likely would also put this device 3-4 years out.

I’m not even sure MS has that endurance with Xbox yet

Fishy Fingers9d ago (Edited 9d ago )

I mean.... what?

We're at a point that Samsung wont even provide their own phone department ram because they can sell it at higher prices to 3rd parties (AI). Its more profitable to sell the ram than make their own devices with it.

You think because R&D starts 5 years ago the 3rd party component manufacturers will honour that price? They'll sell it to whomever is paying the most today, not some gentlemens agreement they made years ago. AI farms will buy more volume at higher prices than any console manufacturer will. It'll be the same for Playstation.

Lexreborn29d ago

Contractual agreements are not the same as “gentlemen” agreements. If you think that they work with their distributors a month before production then their entire business model is trash. They work with companies like nvidia constantly for building the graphics cards they need. They work with companies that build motherboards years in advance. This is what proper business planning does.

They are not buying components on a whim like a consumer. So again, considering the ram isn’t a singular module and is integrated into the motherboard I highly doubt they wouldn’t have a final schematic that they are supposed to be building around.

If they are delaying production another 3 years then it’s obvious again this is an after though project and is just trying to be responsive to their bad execution they had the last 14 years.

It also isn’t far fetched to use their failure to produce first party titles the last 7 years including the highly anticipated games I mentioned all being cancelled. That they would continue to you know… lie

Sitdown9d ago

You don't really know how this works huh?

Profchaos9d ago (Edited 9d ago )

Helix is going to be stupidly expensive

Instead of leaning into smarter upscaling techniques they're brute forcing hardware that will cost them dearly and it remains to be seen if it's genuinely going to provide a meaningful differential

I know in the oc.doace people like to brag about not using frame gen or dlss to get to high on a game but for the majority of players they happily use those technologies without a second thought

That's going to be ps6 vs Helix

Eonjay9d ago

Yeah with FSR 5 they should be able to offer a much cheaper version of Helix.

Eonjay9d ago

While this does seem to be the case, I am encouraged by the statement from Microsoft about wanting to provide affordable options. If this means a Series S style Helix, at least there will be something affordable being offered.

XBManiac9d ago

Series S is what has killed Xbox Series so... Will they dare?

blacktiger9d ago

It's called systematic inflationary. Yes we get it Microsoft, keep raising in the name ofall kinds of stuffs

pwnmaster30009d ago

Honestly if there was thing I learned from this generation is that new consoles arnt day one anymore.
I can wait 1-3 years.

DarXyde9d ago

Another important lesson from this generation: while Nintendo showed us that prices don't necessarily need to ever drop, we've now learned that waiting 1-3 years does carry some risk that prices increase. This generation is just bizarre in all the wrong ways.

LucasRuinedChildhood9d ago (Edited 9d ago )

The factors are largely external. Covid and Russia-Ukraine war causing inflation led to the first price increase in 2022.

Then we get Trump's tariffs increasing hardware prices, AI boom causing a RAM crisis, war on Iran causing a worldwide fuel crisis which impacts the cost of everything.

Gaming doesn't exist in a vacuum. The last few years have been a shitshow and lot of it was definitely avoidable.

DarXyde9d ago

LucasRuinedChildhood,

For sure. No disagreement on the external factors doing a lot of this. Where I have to gently push back however is on two fronts:

1. The pandemic definitely caused some issues: asynchronous development was a big issue and really complicated timelines and affected game quality. At the same time, when it comes to price hikes, it's really difficult to know what was genuine necessity and what was taking consumers for a ride. The pandemic brought about "stag-flation" which was increasing prices and stagnant wages, which was a problem caused by supply chain constraints. There was also "Greed-flation", where companies that were slightly affected or had no issues took advantage of the situation and squeezed everyone citing supply chain issues when there were none.

2. It's definitely true that the tariffs, AI boom, and RAM crisis were all things enabled by tech broligarchs throwing money at this caricature of a world leader, one of them being Satya Nadella. I don't think Sony and Nintendo have contributed much to this problem if at all, but Microsoft's Nadella I feel was instrumental in causing every one of those issues. Microsoft as a company contributed to both candidates (though they gave Harris 4x as much if I recall), but Nadella was all in on letting AI run wild. He paid for unregulated AI, and got a war that's not a war (even though Trump called it that at least five times on television) that screwed up helium access. So for me, I feel that one of the players in the gaming industry is a key architect of these issues, and for that reason I struggle a bit to think of it as "external".

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'The big things that we're thinking about'

In an exclusive interview with Game File, new(ish) Xbox boss Asha Sharma and Xbox chief content officer Matt Booty explain their vision for Microsoft’s gaming division

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Agent7511d ago

A good start would be to release games to go with the console. My Xbox Series X has gathered dust virtually from launch. My advice would be to ditch a next console and release games on PC, PlayStation and Switch. Another idea would be a hybrid console based on Xbox Series X tech and go the same route as Nintendo. Another idea would be to pull out of gaming altogether. Plenty of options there.

Reaper22_8d ago

Why would they pull out? They have the momentum. Sony has been getting nothing but bad news lately.