The casual crowd (whom this is clearly targeted at) will likely never sign into the XBox Live Marketplace (or whatever it's called), so they just need enough space for game saves. 4 Gigs is enough for them.

Trust me, if ever a casual user runs out of memory some window will pop-up advertising MS brand USBs and additional harddrives. Remember also, casuals don't buy games that require much DLC, except for GH and RB - but it's not like their buying map packs and 800 MB Shadow Compex games. MS know the core already have a 360 or would by a 250 gig console, they're already taking your money and think it's not enough, now they want what Nintendo's got aka huge profit.

they will still 'trick' gullible people LoL

#1 360 games dont have huge mandatory installs so that isnt an issue.
#2 You can add up to 32gb of flashdrive storage.
#3 I seriously doubt casuals will be downloading huge amounts of stuff.
#4 360 game saves require very little space.

Its obvious to me this garbage site has missed the whole demographic of who this console is intended for.

i want too see kinect take off but i just really dont see it happening not with the new price mark, this bundle is fantastic however they really should of done a larger memory on the unit

Shows just how much MS is willing to sacrifice to con people into buying their console.

"Hey look at our bundle: for less than the price of the PS3, you get the console, Kinect, AND a game."

Except the console will need a hdd upgrade within the month--an outrageously-priced proprietary MS hdd. Not to mention paying for Live if you want to play online, which is free on PS3. So, if you want to play on your 360S w/ Kinect bundle for MS's projected 5 year life-span, you'll have to shell out almost 400$ extra. Bet you'll wish you'd gone with the PS3 by the time you realize that, huh?

Well done MS, you fooled all these poor uninformed casual gamers and parents.

Tell me again how the multiplatform strategy was supposed to fix everything. Look at your results and compare them to Nintendo, which keeps thriving with exclusives. Your loyal fans are gone. And let’s not forget the pile of IPs you purchased only to let them rot.

The worst thing is this is down from last years numbers/expectations which was down from the previous years numbers/expectations. You think about how long “down” has been a consistent part of the communication and you realize those subscriptions are what’s holding that boat together. The price cut of gamespass is still a price raise in a string of price raises. They are trying to use players to offset the missing revenue. Now call of duty is out of gamespass, which is literally WHY they bought the company. To draw people to the subscription. They realized they missed a boatload of money and that wasn’t sustainable. Now you pay for it like you would have if they never bought the company… so why buy the company? Mind you those billions still need to be paid back. Yeah it gives you a chance to say we make the biggest FPS… but the internal conversations must be brutal at high level on topics that really matter. Like revenue. Profitability. And ROI for the shopping spree.

Is this like the 10th quarter in a row they're down 33% on hardware how is that even mathematically possible. You would think their mediocrity would Plateau

Helix will be expensive but it's still a day one for me.

Oh, my days...
So Nadella meets with the US president multiple times to ensure AI regulations are minimal if any at all, donates to the inauguration and ballroom, and his boy not only won't regulate AI as farmers lose land and billionaires/corporations buy up farmland to build data centers...but because he's insane and compromised, he starts a war on behalf of a rogue colonial zionist state and [further] destabilizes the Middle East, restricting component access and helium supply.

Now the head of Xbox is saying the hardware pricing "could impact" next generation hardware pricing? Asha,...your boss at a minimum played a direct role in this. What are we even talking about?

Yea because a $3 trillion company can’t absorb the majority of the cost to keep the product lower for consumers.

Expensive… oh no, here comes another flop.

Could? Strange how prices rise for virtually everything we buy, yet when things settle down, prices don't come down. This has been happening in the UK probably before I was born. With that, how much is a next gen console going to cost? Look at the price of the PlayStation 5 Pro, which has been a flop for Sony. On that note, we don't need the next consoles for another 5 years.

I guarantee if people just stopped buying this kinda stuff all together. This would all be sorted within 2 weeks and everything would be back to normal.

We seen the exact same thing through the COVID period. Companies just jumped on the bandwagon realising that they can get away with charging far more under false pretences and fear mongering.

Consumers now have this fear of "you know what, I only live once. I'm going to spend all this money I earned through my hard work" Or "I only live once I'm going to take a loan out and enjoy my time here".

Silicone Valley spends literally billions of dollars researching how much they can push society to the limits to increase spending. You can research it yourself. There's published written documentation about it. Have a look for yourself into their group research into subscription programs to see how evil they are and why it's such a giant focus of current civilization. Its the very essence of corporate capitalism.

Just delay all new consoles. I could easily go another 5 years with my base PS5.

could? it's already affecting current gen pricing.

It is greed. Apple are selling at the same price, while Microsoft Surface increases 500$ per unit. Karma will tell.