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Deus Ex 3 'Developed on All Platforms' Simultaneously

Deus Ex: Human Revolution's producer has confirmed that the game is being developed on all 3 platforms simultaneously.

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BakedGoods5798d ago (Edited 5798d ago )

This is how you develop games: do it simultaneously. Until of course your tech maxes out the 360, then you go lead PS3.

If you want to be a competitive developer this is how you do it (see Visceral & DICE). Otherwise you're stuck with old tech and eventually struggle to compete.

If you disagree challenge my opinion instead of labeling this as trolling. I'd be interested in hearing your own opinion on console-led development.

gaffyh5798d ago

If you're going to port, it's better to lead on PS3 because the game will look near identical on both consoles then (proven fact). But I agree that simultaneous development is better, I mean look at MW1, it came out when all PS3 ports looked worse than 360 ports, but it looked identical on both platforms.

gypsygib5798d ago (Edited 5798d ago )

I don't disagree and make no mistake I love my PS3'games but it was stupid to make it so complex to design for, they should have just used pc architecture. It cost devs more to make games on it and often they get less sales. EVERY PS3 game could have looked better than 360 is they just used pc architecture with a superior graphics card to 360 and/or more ram - that's the advatage of releasing a year later. The whole untapped potential argument fails because they could have had superior graphics soonerand with less expense, bad press and developer frustration. The PS3 cost over 800 dollars to make at launch, 200 for the blu-ray but still they could have had a superior system to the 360 using more familiar stuff, and games may have looked even better than they do now.

talltony5798d ago (Edited 5798d ago )

I cannot complain about the architecture. Multiplats are mostly always even on both platforms even with ps3's harder to develop for architecture. The exclusives show both consoles true colors and that was the plan from the very beginning with the ps3.

Ju5798d ago (Edited 5798d ago )

If that would have been so easy, I am sure they would have done it. Both, RSX and Xenos were state of the art at the time. The CPUs have been custom made because there was nothing available for the performance per watt ratio needed at the time (the design was pushed by Sony, BTW - MS bought into IBM after). The PS3 dev started actually before 360. CELL was half way done when IBM sold the PPU to MS. And with the deal with ATI they could beat Sony to the market. Sony wanted more headroom for a longer lifecycle. PC type architecture simply can't survive to long - tech is getting updated all - what - 6 month ?

DeathMetal5798d ago (Edited 5798d ago )

on the superior platform the PC

@ above all tech gets outdated quickly if the cell was so great your games wouldn't choke on 720P at low frame rates.

Ju5798d ago

No, and no.

You lead on a PC for rapid prototyping. You have to go down to the target to optimize for the specific platform.

On the PS3, that also means a different render backend than DX. 360 has specific EDRAM, memory setup and specific optimized cachelines you need low level code for.

Further more, you'd want to optimize for memory constraints on consoles (and won't bother on the PC). You also might want to be careful how and when you load resources, how you manage resources on the console.

All things which could possibly be backported to a PC, but might not be necessary - or simply aren't done because nobody cares.

And the CELL is still a monster. Most PCs to this date do not run 6/7 parallel execution units. The amount of action on screen of latest games is unmatched with current main stream PCs. My one year old Quad cannot compete with it. I can possibly run some (maybe half) of my games with higher res and better AA - but with half the effects, too.

The bottle neck in those consoles is the graphics chip, not the CPU. And it survived the last 4 or 5 years to still be competitive, while my one year old PC is not.

DeathMetal5798d ago (Edited 5797d ago )

will whip the Ps3 are you kidding? look at gta 4 i can put as much traffic on the screen as I want and it runs fine vehcile density consoles 33 my old PC 50. Botom line is Gpu in the PS3 is weak tha's why games have low resolutions. If PS3 is so great then explain my every multiplat on the PC absolutley destroys the PS3 version.

Quagmire5798d ago

Imagine if this game looked as epic as it did in the CGI trailers. Heck, i wouldnt mind watching this as a film with that level of CGI.

Dragun6195798d ago

I would imagine they will try. They are using Square Enix's Crystal Tools engine for this game.

Hellsvacancy5798d ago

Im welll lookin 4ward to Deus Ex 3, cant wait

The-Tentacle5798d ago

Good, this means the PS3 version will not be restricted by inferior hardware. Its about time devs got a clue, the Xbox has damaged this gen enough.

gypsygib5798d ago

Not really, devs just don't want to spend the money finding the untapped potential and I can't blame them. PS3 should have been developer friendly and they would all look better instead of many looking worse (negligible though).

edhe5798d ago

Good, this means the 360 version will not be restricted by inferior hardware. Its about time devs got a clue, the PS3 has damaged this gen enough.

Woo, i can do that too.

Hacker5798d ago

lol we all know xbox360 version is gonna be superior so whats the point of this news?

callahan095798d ago

PC version will be superior.

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Viljong1117d ago

The og deus ex is magical. Im also very exited about mass effect legendary edition from the gp. Its next on my playlist never played mass effect game before.

IamTylerDurden11117d ago (Edited 1117d ago )

Never played ME? It's imo the greatest trilogy of all-time and perhaps the best setting outside maybe Fallout. Play it. Great DLC as well. In 2 & 3 at least. Skip Andromeda. Also, Human Revolution was great as well even if OG fans claim otherwise.

shinoff21831117d ago

Mass effect 1 was great. I feel they dumbed down alot on the 2nd one and seemed more action like. Mass effect 1 the citadel was an explorable city. Far as I got in Mass effect 2 it was reduced to a location list no traveling through it. I disliked it alot(the citadel) part. I also feel they went more action oriented then rpg

just_looken1117d ago

It always makes me mad when you see something you have done in the first mass effect or dragon age can make something change in the 3rd because bioware make 6 games in what 8 years? that did this but today 0 games do this.

I wish we had trilogies today were we can share saves and have multiple endings/path's on all 3 because of choices from anyone of them.

Its so funny being the bad sheparad from one to 3 then the end having just you and joker ha ha yet everyone is like hey your a hero with a 90% casualty rate.

CBaoth1117d ago

Fallout can't hold Mass Effect's jockstrap. The one Fallout even in the ballpark is 3, and that's only because the DLC was extremely good. When Ken Rolston was in Bethesda's employment were they good. That's about it. They're now the world's greatest copy/paste developer out there. Bioware at their pinnacle was ten times better a studio than Todd's team. Go look up the games

IamTylerDurden11116d ago

Mass Effect is my favorite, followed by 2 and 3. Yes, ME2 was dumbed down but also refined in terms of polish and accessibility. ME2 had an awesome story, great DLC, and a solid cast. Mordin in particular. It's a great game. Even 3 which was the weakest was still solid imo despite the ending. If u love ME how do u not enjoy all 3?

Fallout is not a better game though FO3 was great. In terms of setting though Fallout is Mt Rushmore. The 50's post apoc setting was brbrilliant. I still put ME setting n lore above but FO is up there with setting.

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esherwood1117d ago

Man play mass effect, best games ever

Miraak82 1117d ago

Xenogears is my fav sci fi rpg

closed_account1116d ago

Right? There's a serious lack of classics on this list.

The original 2 Star Oceans. Rogue Galaxy...

IamTylerDurden11116d ago

Rogue Galaxy never got that critical love. Beautiful PS2 game. Was it L5?

closed_account1116d ago

@IamTylerDurden1 Yep, Level5. Love their stuff. Dark Cloud 3 please...

Godmars2901117d ago

Why aren't there more? A Star Trek RPG for one. Or something with non humanoid aliens?

shinoff21831117d ago

Cause for some damn reason medieval is more popular ugghhh. I'd take some sci fi sh anyway over it. I've said time and time again I hope the elden guys are working on a sci fi type game.

Godmars2901117d ago (Edited 1117d ago )

Something non-post apocalypse or dystopian. Just world saving. Fighting bad guys while doing good and dealing with ethical/moral/psychological quandaries.

sadraiden1116d ago

The reason why fantasy RPGs, and Fantasy as a genre, are more popular than Sci-Fi, is because of the low technology/high magic tropes. If all of your problems can be solved with looking up the answer on a smartphone, well, there's just lower stakes than if a character has to have a sword fight, and climb the tower, and rescue the fair princess and recite the ancient incantation to seal the evil.

Obviously you can have universe ending stakes in Sci-Fi, but that requires abstract reasoning, and an ability to RP in a way that is progressive instead of regressive. Couple that with Sci-Fi games and media generally being faster paced, and you've got a genre that attracts a very specific demographic of gamers.

just_looken1117d ago

or go crazy and make a starship troopers rpg can you survive the bug fight?

The animated show was great showed what someone can do with the lore.

Fist4achin1116d ago

A Starship Troopers game as a real time strategy like the command and conquer series would be awesome.

just_looken1116d ago

@fist

We have that today but its a small team with a smal budget
https://www.youtube.com/wat...

Its not a major rts sadly but a start

jznrpg1117d ago

I really hope Naughty Dog is doing a Sci-Fi game. As a lover all most things RPG I would love to see Naughty Dog quality in an RPG.

porkChop1117d ago

They could do some really great stuff with sci-fi. The sense of grand adventure of Uncharted, but also with the stealth and crafting of The Last of Us. Different planets, creative alien races, collecting junk to craft repairs and upgrades for your ship and weapons, etc.

shinoff21831117d ago

Porkchop

Your getting me excited for something that doesn't exist. Damn

shinoff21831117d ago

He'll yea , hope we here something about that if they are. I'm not to worried about factions at all

just_looken1117d ago

If it was the old naughty dog i would want that the new naughty dog no thanks.

IamTylerDurden11116d ago (Edited 1116d ago )

TLOU2 is the finest game ND has made. U4 was fantastic. New ND is a more impressive ND. I don't rate Crash n Jak like i do Uncharted and TLOU. Even Uncharted 1 and 3 were not as well crafted as TLOU, TLOU2, U4 imo. Idc if ppl troll TLOU2, most ppl are clueless, that game was incredibly impressive.

TLOU2 combat, visuals, and acting were the best of the genre. I found the story deeper and more profound than most but it's subjective. The level design was excellent also. The score. Audio. Animation. It was a masterpiece to me. The rope physics, detail. TLOU2 deserved Elden Ring scores and ER deserved TLOU2 scores. If any game deserved 97 in recent years it's TLOU2. Best game i ever played and if ppl come with Abby bs i already know it's not worth it. Those who call TLOU2 trash are foolish. Just look at it running...

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60 BEST Adventure Games Of All Time

The Adventure games genre is insanely massive and creative, so here is the in-depth list of its Best and greatest titles to play in 2022.

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SinisterMister1362d ago

Is Elden Ring an adventure game? If so, it should be at the top of the list.

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Xbox 360/PS3 Ports That Would Be Great on Nintendo Switch

Here's a list of Xbox 360/PS3 games that would be great on the Nintendo Switch (at a modest, reasonable price of course). These games could really flourish if given a new lease on life, introducing a new generation to their greatness.

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MichaelKnight831416d ago (Edited 1416d ago )

I'm sure R* knows the Nintendo Switch install base and probably dont really care to port over more R* games to the Nintendo Switch tho i gotta say playing GTA4 & RDR1 on the go on the Nintendo Switch would be dope

Knightofelemia1416d ago

I would buy Lollipop Chainsaw, Alice Madness Returns, Enslaved, Splatter House, Brutal Legends, Dante's Inferno, and Dead Space for sure if they were ported to the Switch.

InklingGirl1416d ago

Same, great group of titles.

Mobis-New-Nest1416d ago

Deus Ex Human Revolution would be a great title to The Holy Grail of All Consoles aka The Nintendo Switch*. Also Haze Remastered, Grand Theft Auto 4 and 5 Remastered, Silent Hill HD Collection, Max Payne 3 Remastered, Call of Duty World At War Remastered, The Orange Box Remastered, Halo Master Chief Collection, Left 4 Dead 1 and 2 Remastered, Metal Gear Solid 4 Remastered, Afro Samurai Remastered, Demons Souls Remastered, Xmen Destiny Remastered, Jack and Daxter Collection, Def Jam Icon Remake, Folklore Remastered, Spiderman Edge of Time Remastered, Persona 5 remastered, the list goes on. (*Best Selling Console of All Time)

MontyeKristo1416d ago (Edited 1416d ago )

Can we just get a Bully 2? 😒

iplay1up21416d ago

Seriously? Isn't it time Nintendo make a Switch successor? I mean they have the sales and money.

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